Cloning hard drive onto a drive that's 6MB smaller?

[yhelothar]

OK so I have a 2x500GB RAID 0 array that's starting to fail on me.
I want to clone it onto this 1TB drive I bought so I don't have to reinstall windows and such.

I have norton ghost 12.

The 1TB drive is 6MB smaller than the 2x500GB RAID0 in capacity.
I still have 11GB free on the raid though, so in terms of used space, the 1TB drive does have enough capacity to take the clone.

But norton ghost won't let me clone it. It says "The selected destination is too small to hold the data."

What should I do at this point in order to get my drive cloned so that I can start using windows on my new 1TB drive the way I have it now?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Delete/back-up the extra data.

 

[yhelothar]

it's not the used space that's keeping me from cloning though, but rather the drive capacities.

 

[yhelothar]

i just tried using computer management's disk manager to shrink the volume by 8MB.
Now it shows that the selected drive's capacity is smaller than the destination's.. but it STILL gives me the same error!

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Oh, I see. Have you tried shrink the partition with Gparted?

 

[zerogear]

Did you use bit-by-bit backup?

 

[bob4432]

use acronis and clone it. i am pretty sure you can d/l the demo and it will do it.

 

[fr]

I've created a disk image using Acronis TrueImage Home and restored it on a smaller drive several times. It didn't give me any problems as long as all the data fit on the smaller drive.

 

[royalcrown]

Nortons is garbage...use something that will let you resize like Acronis

 

[0roo0roo]

as long as a partitions data will fit it can be resized.
that being said perhaps its the raid throwing it off.
clonezilla?

 

[yhelothar]

i got acronis true image home 2009 and told it to do a clone.
it started, then it said it needed to reboot
i rebooted, and when windows started, it started its cloning process. it stayed at 0% for about five minutes, and then out of nowhere, it switches to a screen where it says it's successfully cloned the drive.
but there's no way it can clone a 1TB drive in 5 minutes, and i start up windows, and indeed, it has not done anything to the destination drive.

acronis seems broken to me. how do i get it to work?

 

[bob4432]

make a boot cd and use that.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: bob4432
make a boot cd and use that.

it was doing all of its cloning processes with a reboot anyways, started right before windows started. finished doing its cloning and then rebooted.
only problem is that it only took 5 minutes doing its cloning.
do you think a bootcd version of the program would work any differently? i don't have any blank cdr now.. only dvdr.

 

[bob4432]

the boot cd, at least on the version that i have runs under a version of linux, so it it different than windows. in fact, the only way i have cloned or copied a hdd is through the boot cd or a restore using the boot cd from a image stored on my home server. i have never actually used acronis in windows to clone a drive to aother one, i have only used it to make an image on another network hdd, but, knock on wood, it has never failed me in the years i have used it, not the case w/ ghost - lost important data on multiple mediums w/ it.

since i am not using the newest version of acronis, maybe you can see if they have a boot usb drive, since i think the boot cd is only ~40MB or so, so possibly a boot usb drive could do the trick if you have one of them?

 

[0roo0roo]

i said clonezilla ...
use a freakin usb drive

 

[yhelothar]

hmmm i tried the boot usb drive for acronis.. and it'd freeze up when it'd try to boot...
damn thing won't boot

i'm looking at clonezilla. i downloaded the zip for the usb drive boot disk.
do i just extract the whole thing into the root of the flash drive?
it looks like there are two image files on the disk though, so do i need to do anything with those?

 

[corkyg]

A properly prepared bootable CD by Acronis should have no trouble booting. Cloning should really never be done from within Windows. Boot with Acronis 1009 (ver 12) buildm 9646 CD made from an ISO file. Then use the Cloning Utility - always MANUAL mode - select source and target drives, and PROPORTIONAL for different size drives (partitions and all.) Then PROCEED. A huge difference that way - no reboot needed - you get a much better Linux-based GUI that keeps you informed.

Clonezilla is OK, but very user unfriendly to run.

Acronis sees a RAID array as a single drive. That will be your source. The 1 TB drive will be your target. If you are running VISTA, anything earlier than TI 11 will not work right w/o a repair afterwards.

If your RAID array is failing, you may already have passed the fail point.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: corkyg
A properly prepared bootable CD by Acronis should have no trouble booting. Cloning should really never be done from within Windows. Boot with Acronis 1009 (ver 12) buildm 9646 CD made from an ISO file. Then use the Cloning Utility - always MANUAL mode - select source and target drives, and PROPORTIONAL for different size drives (partitions and all.) Then PROCEED. A huge difference that way - no reboot needed - you get a much better Linux-based GUI that keeps you informed.

Clonezilla is OK, but very user unfriendly to run.

Acronis sees a RAID array as a single drive. That will be your source. The 1 TB drive will be your target. If you are running VISTA, anything earlier than TI 11 will not work right w/o a repair afterwards.

If your RAID array is failing, you may already have passed the fail point.

i just did this w/ ver11 minutes ago and i did it the exact way corkyg descrbed and it worked perfectly from a 15k scsi to a ssd. go buy some cds

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: corkyg
A properly prepared bootable CD by Acronis should have no trouble booting. Cloning should really never be done from within Windows. Boot with Acronis 1009 (ver 12) buildm 9646 CD made from an ISO file. Then use the Cloning Utility - always MANUAL mode - select source and target drives, and PROPORTIONAL for different size drives (partitions and all.) Then PROCEED. A huge difference that way - no reboot needed - you get a much better Linux-based GUI that keeps you informed.

Clonezilla is OK, but very user unfriendly to run.

Acronis sees a RAID array as a single drive. That will be your source. The 1 TB drive will be your target. If you are running VISTA, anything earlier than TI 11 will not work right w/o a repair afterwards.

If your RAID array is failing, you may already have passed the fail point.

acronis doesn't do the cloning within windows.. it reboots and does the cloning at bootup as i've mentioned twice in my thread already.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: astroidea
acronis doesn't do the cloning within windows.. it reboots and does the cloning at bootup as i've mentioned twice in my thread already.

You are not understanding - the reboot is required because you STARTED in Windows. Don't do that! There is no reboot using the bootable Rescue Media created by TI.

 

[bob4432]

you need to create the boot disk from acronis - then boot the computer w/ it - totally outside of windows

 

[yhelothar]

ok i just tried that.. it burned nicely to a blank dvdr i had...
it didn't recognize the raid within that bootdisk though. it would give me an error, then i'd see two separate drives with no data on them in the manager.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: astroidea
hmmm i tried the boot usb drive for acronis.. and it'd freeze up when it'd try to boot...
damn thing won't boot

i'm looking at clonezilla. i downloaded the zip for the usb drive boot disk.
do i just extract the whole thing into the root of the flash drive?
it looks like there are two image files on the disk though, so do i need to do anything with those?

dude...its like simple...and on the site
http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/liveusb.php
download liveusb helper and let it do it for you. it is dummy proof

 

[yhelothar]

i was looking for instructions like that.. but it worked great..
i got my bootdisk up and running(sd card), and it did not detect the two 500GB RAID0 to be combined, but to be seperate drives. I couldn't clone it since it wouldn't recognize the raid.

both bootup drives does this. It detects everything ok in windows though. I'm only using intel ICH7R controller.

 

[yhelothar]

alright, i just tried the clone again from windows... this time when it rebooted, it worked. it's all done cloning now, and it worked perfectly.. the cloned drive boot up the first time.