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Clone Vista to new WD hard drive
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BlueAcolyte
Platinum Member
clonezilla and gparted is the free option, acronis true image or norton ghost are the paid options.
QuixoticOne
Golden Member
There's a $8/copy sale on Acronis True Image Home 11 currently.
($9.99 with 10% off if you click on the popup offer you get when you exit the checkout screen)
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2227154&enterthread=y
http://www.fatwallet.com/forum...-deals/861044?newest=1
Vista Business/Ultimate have some kind of built in disk imaging function.
If any of your connected drives is a Seagate you can use these free tools:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/
Seagate: DiscWizard download.
Maxtor: MaxBlast download (also from seagate's link there)
There's also these free ones:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/
http://www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp
There's some kind of free trial of this -- I don't know if it is USEFUL as a trial though:
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/
At this point my head is spinning.
I want to like clonezilla, partimage.
Partimage didn't work for me when I tried it a couple of weeks ago and it was a PITA synchronizing s/w revisions between the client and server since the version included with my linux distro was a little different than the system rescue CD version and they wouldn't talk to each other (argh). So then I recompiled the newest version for linux and it still didn't work... so I think it needs some improvement.
I can't say anything bad about clonezilla other than the fact that their web site kind of blows and it is hard to tell exactly what features it does / does not have based on the web site. Also IMHO these things should support SCP/SSH/SFTP as well as plain old FTP. Setting up a FTP server was a little annoying whereas SSH was already built in to my LINUX system.
I haven't tried the seagate/maxtor tools. Some say they're very crippled versions of acronis and only have a couple of functions that are advertised to work well / be enabled. Some seem to find them very useful and functional even so.
A lot of people seem to like Acronis TIH, though a lot of people who seem to be experienced with it do seem to have problems with it being flaky and certain things not working reliably and occasionally generating corrupted backups that can't be restored -- not good for a backup too. I figured it was worth $8 if the main full image thing works even if the bells and whistles / incremental & file based backups are questionably reliable / well implemented. I'd verify my backup before relying upon it.
I'd probably trust clonezilla more, at least there are a lot of people who use it and who have access to improve it (open source) where it doesn't work, and being unix based and running from a live CD probably makes it a lot simpler for it to get a clean backup.
I'm not entirely sure how it can handle copying a partition of one size on to a partition of another size or anything like that. The web page wasn't stunningly clear on such things as partition creation + management + restoration details.
($9.99 with 10% off if you click on the popup offer you get when you exit the checkout screen)
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2227154&enterthread=y
http://www.fatwallet.com/forum...-deals/861044?newest=1
Vista Business/Ultimate have some kind of built in disk imaging function.
If any of your connected drives is a Seagate you can use these free tools:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/
Seagate: DiscWizard download.
Maxtor: MaxBlast download (also from seagate's link there)
There's also these free ones:
http://www.paragon-software.com/home/db-express/
http://www.macrium.com/ReflectFree.asp
There's some kind of free trial of this -- I don't know if it is USEFUL as a trial though:
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/
At this point my head is spinning.
I want to like clonezilla, partimage.
Partimage didn't work for me when I tried it a couple of weeks ago and it was a PITA synchronizing s/w revisions between the client and server since the version included with my linux distro was a little different than the system rescue CD version and they wouldn't talk to each other (argh). So then I recompiled the newest version for linux and it still didn't work... so I think it needs some improvement.
I can't say anything bad about clonezilla other than the fact that their web site kind of blows and it is hard to tell exactly what features it does / does not have based on the web site. Also IMHO these things should support SCP/SSH/SFTP as well as plain old FTP. Setting up a FTP server was a little annoying whereas SSH was already built in to my LINUX system.
I haven't tried the seagate/maxtor tools. Some say they're very crippled versions of acronis and only have a couple of functions that are advertised to work well / be enabled. Some seem to find them very useful and functional even so.
A lot of people seem to like Acronis TIH, though a lot of people who seem to be experienced with it do seem to have problems with it being flaky and certain things not working reliably and occasionally generating corrupted backups that can't be restored -- not good for a backup too. I figured it was worth $8 if the main full image thing works even if the bells and whistles / incremental & file based backups are questionably reliable / well implemented. I'd verify my backup before relying upon it.
I'd probably trust clonezilla more, at least there are a lot of people who use it and who have access to improve it (open source) where it doesn't work, and being unix based and running from a live CD probably makes it a lot simpler for it to get a clean backup.
I'm not entirely sure how it can handle copying a partition of one size on to a partition of another size or anything like that. The web page wasn't stunningly clear on such things as partition creation + management + restoration details.
RebateMonger
Elite Member
The $10-or-less Acronis deal seems like a good one. Acronis has been around for a while and is commercially successful. I've use the Server Enterprise version, but never the home version.
I just wish more folks would use disk imaging software and make ongoing backups of their drives. I really don't care WHAT software they use...just so they make backups!
I just wish more folks would use disk imaging software and make ongoing backups of their drives. I really don't care WHAT software they use...just so they make backups!
QuixoticOne
Golden Member
Agreed, all people should use this stuff. Not to turn this into too much of a rant, but I can't believe Vista (including home editions) didn't just include image based backup and make it a standard part of the operation. Restore points are one thing but IMHO not good enough compared to a full OS + application partition image safely stored on an external device.
The problem with partition imaging for Windows is that they really incredibly stupidly put pagefile + hiberfile (both often multi-gigabyte files) onto the C: OS partition and don't let you move them. That and all kinds of stuff like Temporary Internet Files, TEMP, and a ton of other junk you really don't typically WANT/NEED to backup. Thus what could have been a nice 4-20GB complete OS image is now massively bloated way beyond what would typically fit on a DVD or extra small hard disk.
They should've just made "C:" OS use *only*, not contain any temporary / user data files at all, "D:" for application installed data *only*, no user data / temporary files at all, "E:" for temporary files *only*, page file, hibernate file, Temporary internet files, et. al., "F:" .... etc. being for user generated data *only*.
Or at least some kind of categorization / segregated partitioning system like that so you can sanely say:
a: back up my whole OS install daily to here.
b: back up my whole application installs daily to here.
c: back up my user generated data incrementally like so...
etc. and actually be able to restore them independently of each other.
As it is you now need a multi terabyte RAID or something to really do good image based backups because a full image of your single-partition C: drive OS + apps + user data (as most people have it) will be HUGE and contain huge amounts of needless junk that you shouldn't restore onto a new system (drivers, OS, ....) along with user data that you need.
That doesn't even get into the impossibility of backing up crucial user *metadata* which is often in the registry or obscure ini / data files that you can never find / know to back up or can't effectively restore even if you do back them up -- things like bookmarks, saved passwords, application preferences, account names, saved games, browser history, .... Would it be too hard to get applications to just store (and be able to RESTORE) such metadata / preferences in a SQL data base or something standard and user managed?
As of now a full image based backup/restore is great if you can restore it onto the same PC it came from. If you have a PC disaster and have to replace the drive / motherboard, full image restores (including OS + drivers + system utilities + system settings) == DISASTER when trying to restore onto a PC with different hardware and probably its own preinstalled OS / applications in many cases.... argh.
The problem with partition imaging for Windows is that they really incredibly stupidly put pagefile + hiberfile (both often multi-gigabyte files) onto the C: OS partition and don't let you move them. That and all kinds of stuff like Temporary Internet Files, TEMP, and a ton of other junk you really don't typically WANT/NEED to backup. Thus what could have been a nice 4-20GB complete OS image is now massively bloated way beyond what would typically fit on a DVD or extra small hard disk.
They should've just made "C:" OS use *only*, not contain any temporary / user data files at all, "D:" for application installed data *only*, no user data / temporary files at all, "E:" for temporary files *only*, page file, hibernate file, Temporary internet files, et. al., "F:" .... etc. being for user generated data *only*.
Or at least some kind of categorization / segregated partitioning system like that so you can sanely say:
a: back up my whole OS install daily to here.
b: back up my whole application installs daily to here.
c: back up my user generated data incrementally like so...
etc. and actually be able to restore them independently of each other.
As it is you now need a multi terabyte RAID or something to really do good image based backups because a full image of your single-partition C: drive OS + apps + user data (as most people have it) will be HUGE and contain huge amounts of needless junk that you shouldn't restore onto a new system (drivers, OS, ....) along with user data that you need.
That doesn't even get into the impossibility of backing up crucial user *metadata* which is often in the registry or obscure ini / data files that you can never find / know to back up or can't effectively restore even if you do back them up -- things like bookmarks, saved passwords, application preferences, account names, saved games, browser history, .... Would it be too hard to get applications to just store (and be able to RESTORE) such metadata / preferences in a SQL data base or something standard and user managed?
As of now a full image based backup/restore is great if you can restore it onto the same PC it came from. If you have a PC disaster and have to replace the drive / motherboard, full image restores (including OS + drivers + system utilities + system settings) == DISASTER when trying to restore onto a PC with different hardware and probably its own preinstalled OS / applications in many cases.... argh.
Dadofamunky
Platinum Member
Acronis is a good piece of software. For $9 it's a steal.
polarbear6
Golden Member
i wish i could tell u the sites from which u could download pirated versions of vista
dont believe what microsoft is telling abt pirated software thats all fake
iam even able to update my windows and download original software from microsoft's sites
sorry moderators 😛
dont believe what microsoft is telling abt pirated software thats all fake
iam even able to update my windows and download original software from microsoft's sites
sorry moderators 😛
mrSHEiK124
Lifer
DriveImage XML is free and lets you clone drives too. Supports VSS so you can do it while logged into Windows.
Dadofamunky
Platinum Member
***EDIT*** It does not appear to work with Vista 64-bit, however. I'm still trying to get it to work...
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