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Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: kmr1212
my work is 90% male. We don't have this problem.

QFMFT

i work in an office w/ 95% women, it's horrible to hear things from all sides.
 

Eli

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Welcome to the real world.

To avoid this, you have to be neutral. I'm not sure exactly how I manage to do it, but I do. I'm not involved in the drama.. I don't even usually hear about it until a significant period of time after the fact. And if I do hear about it, I just keep my mouth shut.
 

JSFLY

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: JSFLY
So what exactly are they saying about you? Or have you not even bothered to ask?

I'd confront the perps if I were in your situation.

Petty crap really. I'm one of the "younger" recruits in my company. So basically I'm hit with every stereotype in the book. Every time I try to make friends with a girl they think I'm trying to date them. They also think I do nothing but drink, party, and crash every week. I balance this job while going to school.

I talked to my boss about some of this crap and he seemed cool about it. My boss told me that people talk about him too. People say that he has his head so far up the directors ass was the only reason why he got promoted.

I don't know. Maybe I just haven't been going out as much as I use too to get my mind off things like this.


Well maybe you can have fun with this. Next time you go to work, talk to one of the perps and tell her about how you got drunk, stole a car, picked up a hooker in your stolen car, and tried to ride to vegas before being abducted by aliens in a gene simmons costume. The aliens made you drink tequila while they dropped you off at work.
Pretend your totally wasted and piss drunk while telling her this and put an alcohol soaked hanky in your shirt pocket. Even begin hitting on her. When she tells her cohorts the story, they'll come running over to your cubicle where they will find you acting perfectly fine and normal....

That'll teach em...
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: JSFLY
So what exactly are they saying about you? Or have you not even bothered to ask?

I'd confront the perps if I were in your situation.

Petty crap really. I'm one of the "younger" recruits in my company. So basically I'm hit with every stereotype in the book. Every time I try to make friends with a girl they think I'm trying to date them. They also think I do nothing but drink, party, and crash every week. I balance this job while going to school.

I talked to my boss about some of this crap and he seemed cool about it. My boss told me that people talk about him too. People say that he has his head so far up the directors ass was the only reason why he got promoted.

I don't know. Maybe I just haven't been going out as much as I use too to get my mind off things like this.


Well maybe you can have fun with this. Next time you go to work, talk to one of the perps and tell her about how you got drunk, stole a car, picked up a hooker in your stolen car, and tried to ride to vegas before being abducted by aliens in a gene simmons costume. The aliens made you drink tequila while they dropped you off at work.
Pretend your totally wasted and piss drunk while telling her this and put an alcohol soaked hanky in your shirt pocket. When she tells her cohorts the story, they'll come running over to your cubicle where you will be acting perfectly fine.... That'll teach em...


lol....Yes I tried this before. Sometimes though I end up digging myself into a bigger hole.

I hear some harsh said words at work. It's naive to think that people don't say the same about me. I'm one of those people who continuously puts them self in other peoples positions and then feels bad for them. Of course if you go through life feeling bad about everything you won't have much of a life I guess..lol.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Regs
How do you face this problem at the work place? Do you laugh at it and move on? Complain about it to your supervisor or human resource representative? Or do you simply rise above it?

Depends if what you are facing is rising to the level of workplace bullying. I would recommend googling on "workplace bullying", or bullying in the workplace, and reading some examples of the kinds of things people do to other people in the workplace. It can be rather sickening. Some people's lives and careers are destroyed by bullies in the workplace. I'd also recommend googling on "sociopaths in the workplace" or "workplace sociopaths" - there are some mentally unhinged people in every workplace, who actually derive pleasure from inflicting pain on other people. These people can make your life miserable.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: Regs
Ever notice sometimes going to work is just like going back to high school part II?

Everybody likes to talk about everybody else and nobody minds their own business. I keep to myself at work and I do not want to be involved in any discussion about my co-employees. I think it's childish and unprofessional. Though there is always someone who wants to either start rumors or "bust" on you to make themselves feel better.

It seems like the "quiet" ones are always a target. If you're not in a "Clique" at work you're always the one to get singled out and abused.

How do you face this problem at the work place? Do you laugh at it and move on? Complain about it to your supervisor or human resource representative? Or do you simply rise above it?


There are clicks galore at my work. I kinda mingle with all of them, and have lunch with each of them occasionally. I dont know what they would have to say about me though, other than Im always late.
 

Babbles

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There is drama everywhere you go. I like to think I work in a professional place with educated employees (chemistry research organization) yet there is still a boatload of dumb drama and cliques and all of that crap.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: krunchykrome


There are clicks galore at my work. I kinda mingle with all of them, and have lunch with each of them occasionally. I dont know what they would have to say about me though, other than Im always late.

Maybe it's all that drinking.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: robothouse77
Too bad for all of us, but life is nothing but a continuation of high school....it never changes, no matter how old you get, where you work, or how cool the people are

^^
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: JS80
welcome to life and interacting with human beings :roll:

Their's a popular phrase for this. Easier said than done. Do you really not care what others say about you? Is it not normal to feel a bit uncomfortable in these situations?

There was a women who got fired two weeks ago were I work that got labeled "trailer trash". Would you like to be called trailer trash in your face?

The most shocking realisation I ever had in the workplace is that there are actually people out there who will try to harm your career, if they think it will improve their own chances of promotion or success. The work environment basically thows you up against a heap of different kinds of people, and you realise that a good chunk of the human race is rather nasty.
 

Gunslinger08

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Pretty much everyone at my office goes on breaks together and eats lunch together. We make fun of each other as well as ourselves. It's fun.
 

GagHalfrunt

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"Clique" is a word used in place of "I don't have any friends". There are no such things are "cliques". People choose their friends based on those they like, those they have something in common with, those who are fun to be around, fun to talk to, fun to laugh with, capable of intelligent thought, etc. What you view as cliques are simply groups of people who like each other and choose to be together. If you go out to a restaurant and see 4 people at a table are they a clique? Are 4 guys who go to a football game together a clique? They're just groups of friends. If you're on the outside looking in you need to look in a mirror and figure out why.
 

krunchykrome

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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: krunchykrome


There are clicks galore at my work. I kinda mingle with all of them, and have lunch with each of them occasionally. I dont know what they would have to say about me though, other than Im always late.

Maybe it's all that drinking.

Heh, I rarely drink nowadays. I just like to sleep in.

 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Pretty much everyone at my office goes on breaks together and eats lunch together. We make fun of each other as well as ourselves. It's fun.

That's different. It's what goes on behind your back and finding out weeks after. It's conniving.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: kmr1212
my work is 90% male. We don't have this problem.

Yeah, same here. If we have something to say, we just say it to each other's face. Plus the fact that I just don't give a crap about what other people do helps too.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
"Clique" is a word used in place of "I don't have any friends". There are no such things are "cliques". People choose their friends based on those they like, those they have something in common with, those who are fun to be around, fun to talk to, fun to laugh with, capable of intelligent thought, etc. What you view as cliques are simply groups of people who like each other and choose to be together. If you go out to a restaurant and see 4 people at a table are they a clique? Are 4 guys who go to a football game together a clique? They're just groups of friends. If you're on the outside looking in you need to look in a mirror and figure out why.

No don't try and twist it. There is a group of miserable people who go out and talk trash about everybody else. Yes, this is the reality. You don't need to be in a clique to talk trash either. I don't care - I just simply don't like it. Maybe I am just playing devils advocate and even being hypocritical because there are a selected few of people at work who I despise. Though I do not talk about them at work. At home it's a different story.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
"Clique" is a word used in place of "I don't have any friends". There are no such things are "cliques".

If you think there are "no such thing as cliques" in the workplace, imo it means you aren't observant, or maybe you have had the good fortune to work in great jobs where people are pretty decent. Maybe one day you will find yourself working in a place where the "wrong people" (sociopaths, a$$holes, backstabbers, manipulators, etc.) always get the promotions... then you might develop some different opinions.
 

yhelothar

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I never had this problem at work since there was only 3 people.. but my mom would always tell me horror stories. She would tell me the methods she would use to get ahead. She would totally suck up and kiss ass to the people who she knows are the people whom you would call the workplace sociopaths. She would buy them gifts and then she claims that in turn, she never gets picked on.
 

iamaelephant

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
"Clique" is a word used in place of "I don't have any friends". There are no such things are "cliques". People choose their friends based on those they like, those they have something in common with, those who are fun to be around, fun to talk to, fun to laugh with, capable of intelligent thought, etc. What you view as cliques are simply groups of people who like each other and choose to be together. If you go out to a restaurant and see 4 people at a table are they a clique? Are 4 guys who go to a football game together a clique? They're just groups of friends. If you're on the outside looking in you need to look in a mirror and figure out why.

Wow, this is so true. Well said.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
I never had this problem at work since there was only 3 people.. but my mom would always tell me horror stories. She would tell me the methods she would use to get ahead. She would totally suck up and kiss ass to the people who she knows are the people whom you would call the workplace sociopaths. She would buy them gifts and then she claims that in turn, she never gets picked on.

Well...I would never do that. Unless the gifts included x-lax and chocolate.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
you sound pretty antisocial

Well patients do often deny that they have a mental illness. But I'm sure there is a pill I can take.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
"Clique" is a word used in place of "I don't have any friends". There are no such things are "cliques". People choose their friends based on those they like, those they have something in common with, those who are fun to be around, fun to talk to, fun to laugh with, capable of intelligent thought, etc. What you view as cliques are simply groups of people who like each other and choose to be together. If you go out to a restaurant and see 4 people at a table are they a clique? Are 4 guys who go to a football game together a clique? They're just groups of friends. If you're on the outside looking in you need to look in a mirror and figure out why.

This is an attempt of trying to be 'deep' or 'clever' yet just shows how somebody doesn't understand what a clique is or otherwise unaware of things.