Clinton vows to re-schedule cannabis

[Jhhnn]

http://time.com/4449322/hillary-clinton-marijuana-schedule-dea/

She also promises to not interfere with legalization in states that choose it.

It's a good thing.

 

[umbrella39]

Obama will hopefully steal that thunder before leaving office...

 

[soundforbjt]

Smart move...going for the Gary Johnson supporters.

 

[Joepublic2]

People are way more retarded when they're drunk, anyway, and we allow that.

 

[1prophet]

What makes any of you believe what she says about the drug war anymore than what Obama said?

Obama Is Letting the Drug War Rage on Pointlessly
http://time.com/4448202/obama-drug-war/

The DEA's decision to keep strict federal restrictions on marijuana is another win for the drug cartels


This week the Obama Administration rejected the application of a pair of governors who asked the federal government to lower the federal restrictions on marijuana. The administration concluded that marijuana should remain a “Schedule I” controlled substance under federal law. Schedule I is the most restricted category of illicit drugs, which the government considers to have a high potential for abuse and no legitimate value.

This ruling flies in the face of President Obama’s previous statements indicating that he would allow science, rather than drug war ideology, to determine the legal status of marijuana. It is virtually impossible to overdose on marijuana, and despite centuries of recreational use, the harm caused by marijuana is infinitesimal compared to much harder, yet legal, drugs like alcohol.

 

[JSt0rm]

What makes any of you believe what she says about the drug war anymore than what Obama said?

Obama Is Letting the Drug War Rage on Pointlessly
http://time.com/4448202/obama-drug-war/

Its pretty impressive she is saying these things during an election. Unheard of for a major candidate who is already going to win.

 

[Jhhnn]

What makes any of you believe what she says about the drug war anymore than what Obama said?

Obama Is Letting the Drug War Rage on Pointlessly
http://time.com/4448202/obama-drug-war/

Obama has done more to advance the cause of legalization than any of his predecessors when he refused to halt legalization & retail cannabis in CO & WA.

That's really unequivocal.

 

[retrospooty]

http://time.com/4449322/hillary-clinton-marijuana-schedule-dea/

She also promises to not interfere with legalization in states that choose it.

It's a good thing.

I dont like alot about Hillary, but if she does this, its a very good thing. We simply have too many people in our jails on drug charges. Our drug policy is absolutely insane and has to change. Legalize and tax it. Make it a profit center rather than a cost center.

 

[master_shake_]

now she's going for the stoner vote.

is there any shaft she won't work...?

besides bills

 

[nickqt]

That was the kill shot I thought Strongman Trump was going to make to shift the election to himself.

Hopefully the "rescheduling" of cannabis will be very short as it works its way off the schedule altogether.

Scheduling cannabis at all has been a fucking tragedy for America.

 

[kage69]

Now she's really going to stomp Drumpf...


But I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, coming from her, it's pure lip service. Plenty of reasons and room for her to do a bankruptcy reform-esque 180 on this later.

 

[Aegeon]

By contrast on the Republican side you have Chris Christie who vowed if elected President he would crack down on recreational marijuana in Colorado, Oregon, and Washington State by enforcing the federal ban.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/chris-christie-enforce-marijuana-illegal-2016-120769

Given Chris Christie remains an obvious potential US Attorney General candidate as a prominent Trump supporter in a hypothetical Trump administration, this appears to remain a relevant point for those who care about this general issue.

 

[Jhhnn]

Now she's really going to stomp Drumpf...


But I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, coming from her, it's pure lip service. Plenty of reasons and room for her to do a bankruptcy reform-esque 180 on this later.

Dunno why you'd say that. Her favorability rating among her constituents was quite high when she left the Senate. It wouldn't have been that way if she hadn't delivered the goods.

 

[DrPizza]

By contrast on the Republican side you have Chris Christie who vowed if elected President he would crack down on recreational marijuana in Colorado, Oregon, and Washington State by enforcing the federal ban.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/chris-christie-enforce-marijuana-illegal-2016-120769

Given Chris Christie remains an obvious potential US Attorney General candidate as a prominent Trump supporter in a hypothetical Trump administration, this appears to remain a relevant point for those who care about this general issue.

Fewer stoners, more twinkies for Christie.

When the announcement was made the other day about keeping marijuana as a schedule 1, I completely expected Trump to say he was going to legalize it. "It'll be great. We'll have the best stuff in the world. And, we'll be able to make enough in taxes on it that I can drop the top tax rate down to 10% instead of 15%. Everyone's going to be happy."

 

[glenn1]

Don't smoke it and think you're stupid if you do, but it's even more stupid to keep it restricted the way it is currently. Kudos to Clinton for pledging to put an end to one bit of needless government stupidity.

 

[Bitek]

http://time.com/4449322/hillary-clinton-marijuana-schedule-dea/

She also promises to not interfere with legalization in states that choose it.

It's a good thing.

She's got my vote then.

Well, she had it anyway, but her previous draconian stance was unsettling. We need to keeping moving towards legalization.

 

[Jhhnn]

She's got my vote then.

Well, she had it anyway, but her previous draconian stance was unsettling. We need to keeping moving towards legalization.

I don't recall her ever having a draconian stance.

 

[woolfe9998]

Don't smoke it and think you're stupid if you do, but it's even more stupid to keep it restricted the way it is currently. Kudos to Clinton for pledging to put an end to one bit of needless government stupidity.

Why is it any stupider than drinking alcohol, or do you not do that either?

 

[glenn1]

Why is it any stupider than drinking alcohol, or do you not do that either?

Rarely. But the primary concerns with the single Guinness I'll have at weddings or other social events are limited to the calories, not inhaled carcinogens like you get with MJ or the desire for escapism that seems to be a primary driver for recreational drug use. But I'm not your doctor or health coach and you want to smoke up then have at it. It's not like you imbibing something that will make you act goofy is going to affect my life in any meaningful way; that is presuming you're not doing so while landing an airplane or running safety controls on a nuclear generator. I'm sure my personal opinion about your intelligence in using MJ is hardly going to be a deterrent when you're likely already doing something illegal in most jurisdictions. But government shouldn't be make something illegal just because it's stupid or wasteful to do.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't thing people understand what is happening regarding scheduling. Currently MJ is an illegal drug comparable to heroin. Hillary is proposing rescheduling to a Class II, which means that using or selling it is
"merely" equivalent to illegally using or selling Oxycontin. From a penalty standpoint there's still potential decades of imprisonment. This ain't no big deal, in fact a complete disappointment. She or any President could change this to a Schedule IV or V which is completely in a different league. Nope.

 

[woolfe9998]

It's a step Hayabusa. This is how change usually works, not all in one fell swoop. It was bound to be schedule 2 before it would ever be 3, 4 or 5.

 

[woolfe9998]

Rarely. But the primary concerns with the single Guinness I'll have at weddings or other social events are limited to the calories, not inhaled carcinogens like you get with MJ or the desire for escapism that seems to be a primary driver for recreational drug use. But I'm not your doctor or health coach and you want to smoke up then have at it. It's not like you imbibing something that will make you act goofy is going to affect my life in any meaningful way; that is presuming you're not doing so while landing an airplane or running safety controls on a nuclear generator. I'm sure my personal opinion about your intelligence in using MJ is hardly going to be a deterrent when you're likely already doing something illegal in most jurisdictions. But government shouldn't be make something illegal just because it's stupid or wasteful to do.

Not interested in justifying the use of pot. Was interested in the double standard you appeared to be employing. Objectively, at least when abused, alcohol seems to cause more problems than any amount of pot use.

 

[alien42]

I don't thing people understand what is happening regarding scheduling. Currently MJ is an illegal drug comparable to heroin. Hillary is proposing rescheduling to a Class II, which means that using or selling it is
"merely" equivalent to illegally using or selling Oxycontin. From a penalty standpoint there's still potential decades of imprisonment. This ain't no big deal, in fact a complete disappointment. She or any President could change this to a Schedule IV or V which is completely in a different league. Nope.

you forgot to mention that the biggest difference between schedule 1 and schedule 2 is that schedule 1 drugs are seen as having zero medical benefits. i agree that marijuana should be schedule 5 but what Hillary said is a step in the right direction and allows for medical studies nationwide.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't thing people understand what is happening regarding scheduling. Currently MJ is an illegal drug comparable to heroin. Hillary is proposing rescheduling to a Class II, which means that using or selling it is
"merely" equivalent to illegally using or selling Oxycontin. From a penalty standpoint there's still potential decades of imprisonment. This ain't no big deal, in fact a complete disappointment. She or any President could change this to a Schedule IV or V which is completely in a different league. Nope.

Please. Prohibitionists have used the schedule 1 status of cannabis to inhibit adoption of more widespread prescription of MMJ. It is, in truth, a really big deal that grants legitimacy to MMJ that schedule 1 prevented entirely.

The other side of it is the promise to allow outright legalization to proceed, an end run around all the bullshit of efficacy & the rest surrounding MMJ.

Here in CO, people can just use cannabis because they want to. No games, no garbage, no bullshit. It seems to be working just fine judging from the data about public health, crime, you name it. Prohibitionists can't hide from the data anymore, which is where the truth lies.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Hillary is blowing non-THC laced smoke up everyone's collective ass about this. She is great at pandering though so there are people that love to hear this and she knows it. It would be great if she actually could get MJ rescheduled, and I would 100% support it, but she doesn't have that power. As far as not interfering in States that decide to make MJ legal, didn't Obama make a similar promise?