Clinton makes case for Iraq-al Qaeda ties; also launched preemptive strikes. U.S. should demand an apology!

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The Clinton View of Iraq-al Qaeda Ties


ARE AL QAEDA'S links to Saddam Hussein's Iraq just a fantasy of the Bush administration? Hardly. The Clinton administration also warned the American public about those ties and defended its response to al Qaeda terror by citing an Iraqi connection.

For nearly two years, starting in 1996, the CIA monitored the al Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum, Sudan. The plant was known to have deep connections to Sudan's Military Industrial Corporation, and the CIA had gathered intelligence on the budding relationship between Iraqi chemical weapons experts and the plant's top officials. The intelligence included information that several top chemical weapons specialists from Iraq had attended ceremonies to celebrate the plant's opening in 1996. And, more compelling, the National Security Agency had intercepted telephone calls between Iraqi scientists and the plant's general manager.

Iraq also admitted to having a $199,000 contract with al Shifa for goods under the oil-for-food program. Those goods were never delivered. While it's hard to know what significance, if any, to ascribe to this information, it fits a pattern described in recent CIA reporting on the overlap in the mid-1990s between al Qaeda-financed groups and firms that violated U.N. sanctions on behalf of Iraq.

The clincher, however, came later in the spring of 1998, when the CIA secretly gathered a soil sample from 60 feet outside of the plant's main gate. The sample showed high levels of O-ethylmethylphosphonothioic acid, known as EMPTA, which is a key ingredient for the deadly nerve agent VX. A senior intelligence official who briefed
reporters at the time was asked which countries make VX using EMPTA. "Iraq is the only country we're aware of," the official said. "There are a variety of ways of making VX, a variety of recipes, and EMPTA is fairly unique."

That briefing came on August 24, 1998, four days after the Clinton administration launched cruise-missile strikes against al Qaeda targets in Afghanistan and Sudan (Osama bin Laden's headquarters from 1992-96), including the al Shifa plant. The missile strikes came 13 days after bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killed 257 people--including 12 Americans--and injured nearly 5,000. Clinton administration officials said that the attacks were in part retaliatory and in part preemptive.
 

conjur

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Jesus Christ you're one dense s.o.b.

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I recommend you keep researching and you'll see where that plant had NOTHING to do with Al Qaeda nor Saddam.
 

InfectedMushroom

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Who cares about Clinton anymore? :confused:

John Galt does. he's stuck on clinton.
my guess is galt will forever be stuck on clinton. might be a fetish or lack of getting layed. or is it envy that clinton got some?
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Where's the outrage, apologists?

You won't get one. These people only believe what they want to believe. They selectively ignore history and assign blame to whomever they hate at the moment. Look at the people who talk about how we should never talk about Clinton anymore. They do this because they are afraid that something might come up to undermine their current beliefs.
Who cares about Clinton anymore?
The people who don't blame Bush for everything and are interested in the truth. I recommend you do some research on something called Cause and Effect. You might learn that one cause can have many effects, and those effects are not always immediate. In fact, on a global scale, the effects might come months or even years later. Thus, Clinton is still relavent because he contributed to the current situations. Decisions he made years ago still play a part in what is happening today. John is simply proving that. If you have evidence that contradicts what John is saying, then speak up and share. Otherwise, foolish remarks like the quote above just look silly.

And conjur, how about sharing this evidence rather than telling others to find it? If you won't then I suggest that everyone use conjur's arguement. Here is the template:
"I recommend you keep researching and you'll see that [insert contradicting statement]"
 

SuperTool

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So is it an Aspirin factory, or chemical weapons factory? ;) You rightwingers should be consistent in your Clinton bashing. :D
 

Klixxer

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My tip to you JohnGalt, as both Bill and George obviously are liars, don't vote for either of them!

No charge, this time, i usually don't get involved in US internal affairs.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: XZeroII

And conjur, how about sharing this evidence rather than telling others to find it? If you won't then I suggest that everyone use conjur's arguement. Here is the template:
"I recommend you keep researching and you'll see that [insert contradicting statement]"
It's been discussed up here several times.

Just Google "al-shifa false" and you'll find plenty.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: conjur
Jesus Christ you're one dense s.o.b.

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I recommend you keep researching and you'll see where that plant had NOTHING to do with Al Qaeda nor Saddam.

thats what they say... but if you were goint to make chemical weapons, wouldn't a chemical plant be the perfect cover? sure, it made aspirin most of the time, but really, how long could it possibly take to make enough nerve agent to put in a weapon?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: conjur
Jesus Christ you're one dense s.o.b.

rolleye.gif


I recommend you keep researching and you'll see where that plant had NOTHING to do with Al Qaeda nor Saddam.

thats what they say... but if you were goint to make chemical weapons, wouldn't a chemical plant be the perfect cover? sure, it made aspirin most of the time, but really, how long could it possibly take to make enough nerve agent to put in a weapon?

Conspiracy theories abound.

There's no proof...even after all of these years.