Clinton Maintains Lead Over Trump Despite Health Scare

[norseamd]

Hillary Clinton remains the top choice for voters in the presidential race, rebounding from her brief health scare at a 9/11 ceremony a week ago. She is still leading Donald Trump by 2 percentage points among likely voters.

In a new Morning Consult survey conducted Sept. 15 and Sept. 16, Clinton leads the Republican nominee, 42 percent to 40 percent — within the margin of error — among likely voters, while 8 percent opted for Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson and 3 percent chose Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

https://morningconsult.com/2016/09/18/clinton-maintains-lead-trump-despite-health-scare/

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

well no denying it has dramatically been reduced. I think that deplorable comment may be the one thing she shouldn't have said, no matter the accuracy of it, you don't alienate voters, no matter whom, if possible. Don't have to cater to them, but you do not alienate a group of people like that.

 

[MongGrel]

She was up 4 points the other day again after that on a few, polls are just polls.

 

[Jaskalas]

LA TIMES POLL: TRUMP +7...

CBSNEWS: BATTLEGROUNDS ALL TIED UP...

 

[fskimospy]

LA TIMES POLL: TRUMP +7...

CBSNEWS: BATTLEGROUNDS ALL TIED UP...

You do understand that the LA Times poll can't actually be used to measure who is in the lead, right? It is useful to look at trends, but not at who is actually winning. That is immediately obvious if you look at the methodology.

Don't cherry pick surveys, it's a waste of time.

 

[theeedude]

"Battleground" Georgia is all tied up

 

[Jaskalas]

You do understand that the LA Times poll can't actually be used to measure who is in the lead, right? It is useful to look at trends, but not at who is actually winning. That is immediately obvious if you look at the methodology.

Don't cherry pick surveys, it's a waste of time.

A month ago LA times had Clinton +2. Today it's Trump +7. A 9 point swing in Trump's favor.
We call that a trend. A very strong trend.

 

[fskimospy]

A month ago LA times had Clinton +2. Today it's Trump +7. A 9 point swing in Trump's favor.
We call that a trend. A very strong trend.

You'd be lying to dismiss it.

You can certainly look at it as a trend, which is what I already said. You can't look at it as a true state of the race though. To do that would be lying.

By the way I'm a bit concerned, do you actually want trump to win? I'm genuinely not trying to insult you as I respect you but I thought you were better than that.

 

[MongGrel]

I see a trend of polls still being BS atm

 

[Kazukian]

Real Clear Politics shows an aggregate of less than a 1 point lead, although the Electoral vote looks very good for Hillary.

There's a long way to go.

 

[alcoholbob]

You can certainly look at it as a trend, which is what I already said. You can't look at it as a true state of the race though. To do that would be lying.

By the way I'm a bit concerned, do you actually want trump to win? I'm genuinely not trying to insult you as I respect you but I thought you were better than that.

But why would he want your respect if you are appealing to superstition? lol

 

[Jaskalas]

You can certainly look at it as a trend, which is what I already said. You can't look at it as a true state of the race though. To do that would be lying.

Hence the "tied Battlegrounds" followup to examine the present state of the race. A 9 point swing for Trump is a far cry from the OP's claim that the race hasn't changed. The notion being that it has not changed since Clinton had "it in the bag" with lofty claims of +10-15 points. Drudge already had links to dispute the OP today, so I shared them.

By the way I'm a bit concerned, do you actually want trump to win?
...but I thought you were better than that.

That would be quite a lengthy subject of itself. My vote is not cast yet, and I am looking forward to the debate featuring two deplorables. I will revisit with my position when the time comes.
But what you said, you cannot respect half the nation, the 10s of millions that will?

 

[Balt]

well no denying it has dramatically been reduced. I think that deplorable comment may be the one thing she shouldn't have said, no matter the accuracy of it, you don't alienate voters, no matter whom, if possible. Don't have to cater to them, but you do not alienate a group of people like that.

Yeah. While it may have been more accurate than Romney's 47% comment, it was just as stupid to say.

The battlegrounds (particularly Florida and Ohio) starting to shift to Trump is definitely bad for Clinton. Mathematically, I have trouble understanding how the race is basically tied, though. Last I heard, Clinton still had a huge advantage among minorities and a small advantage among college-educated whites (a group that a Dem presidential candidate hasn't carried in a long time).

 

[DrDoug]

I see a trend of polls still being BS atm

One way or the other, the press will have their horse race. I'm quite fine with the 'polling' being this close because it will keep Hillary supporters from becoming complacent and maybe skipping out on voting in November because they thought she had it in the bag.

Call it "Sweat the vote".

 

[Kazukian]

well no denying it has dramatically been reduced. I think that deplorable comment may be the one thing she shouldn't have said, no matter the accuracy of it, you don't alienate voters, no matter whom, if possible. Don't have to cater to them

Optics like this are important, I don't recall a POTUS candidate or POTUS looking this wasted/tired/whatthefuckever ever.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Optics like this are important, I don't recall a POTUS candidate or POTUS looking this wasted/tired/whatthefuckever ever.

Odd you'd say that about me when not so long ago I was

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<snip> a partisan troll incapable of critical reasoning, fool.

 

[Kazukian]

Odd you'd say that about me when not so long ago I was

What the fuck are you talking about, idiot?

 

[MongGrel]

Anyone that even types the word optics makes them suspect to me to begin with.

Just a pet peeve of mine perhaps.

Is kinda up there with amirite, in my mind.

 

[Kazukian]

Any one that even types the word optics miffs me off to begin with.

Just a pet peeve of mine perhaps.

Is kinda up there with amirite in my book.

She looks old and tired, are you happy now?

 

[MongGrel]

Florida Isn't Just Your Grandma's Battleground State Anymore

http://www.npr.org/2016/09/18/493836716/florida-isnt-just-your-grandmas-battleground-state-anymore

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What the fuck are you talking about, idiot?

so agitated. eeesh, and you're in the medical profession with a temper like that? do you have a direct interaction with the public?

 

[norseamd]

Optics like this are important, I don't recall a POTUS candidate or POTUS looking this wasted/tired/whatthefuckever ever.

Someone who has pneumonia is medicated and tired, well no fucking way Sherlock.

 

[Jhhnn]

What the fuck are you talking about, idiot?

He's talking about what you do best, concern trolling.

 

[MongGrel]

so agitated. eeesh, and you're in the medical profession with a temper like that? do you have a direct interaction with the public?

I unintentionally probably got a nurse in trouble after she told me on the side that a doctor recommended by another doctor was a bit of an asshole.

I still regret ever letting that slip at the time.

She was right.

I imagine working in healthcare and keeping your mouth shut on a daily is hard to do in some cases.

I've even see some real screw ups in the past.

Honeywell even paid off a nurse performing a Spirometry about 5 years ago when they were kicking the Union out at the time.

I had been taking them for 10 years, I told the nurse at the time I needed to pass it at the time to pass it after a couple failures just to get my severance pay then. She gave up letting me try after a couple tries.

Somehow, when Honeywell set up a second test a few weeks later, another nurse passed me with flying colors, without even trying as hard as the first tests.

More Corporate bullshit, they paid the hospital off.

Just ticking off those boxes.

 

[Kazukian]

so agitated. eeesh, and you're in the medical profession with a temper like that? do you have a direct interaction with the public?

The thing that's sad is folks like you are acting like there's no way she can lose.

She can lose, and Trump should scare the hell out of everyone.