Clinton Lawyers Fretted Over bin Laden's Comfort..

[IGBT]

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..not surprised by this. Yet another example of either total recklessness or simply in over his head..another facet of Clintons dismal legacy..

The CIA's former bin Laden desk chief revealed Thursday night that Clinton administration lawyers warned counterterrorism agents that Osama bin Laden had to be kept as comfortable as possible if they captured him during planned raids into Afghanistan.

"The lawyers were more concerned with bin Laden`s safety and his comfort than they were with the officers charged with capturing him," former bin Laden desk chief Michael Scheuer told MSNBC's "Hardball."

"We had to build an ergonomically designed chair to put him in, [for] special comfort in terms of how he was shackled into the chair," Scheuer explained. "They even worried about what kind of tape to gag him with so it wouldn't irritate his beard."
"The lawyers are the bane of the intelligence community," the former CIA man lamented.

Concerns like that, as well as foot-dragging by the White House, resulted in one missed opportunity after another to get the al-Qaida terror mastermind, Scheuer said.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: IGBT
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..not surprised by this.

Neither am I. Nice try, he swings, he misses.



Pst, Bush diversions don't work. Try and stayed focused the real terrorist. GHWB.

 

[Stunt]

Soooo, the US has only itself to blame for Sept 11 and the freedom of OBL?

That's an interesting change of view by the neo-cons.

:thumbsup::laugh:

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

Heh...you know Bush isn't concerned about Bin Laden. He said so himself. As long as he's on the run, he's no threat according to Bush...:roll:

Sure.....Bush is drinking the kool-aid too!

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

Heh...you know Bush isn't concerned about Bin Laden. He said so himself. As long as he's on the run, he's no threat according to Bush...:roll:

Sure.....Bush is drinking the kool-aid too!

LOL, OBL's no threat, but it's still Clinton's fault.

The problems in Iraq must be Clinton's fault too??? What am I missing here?

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Huh! I guess Clinton was concerned about the comfort of Osama when he stationed two attack submarines within cruise misslie range of Al Qaida sites in Afghanistan. Since the time of flight of those cruise missiles weren't comforting enough, Clinton authorized the arming of the Predator. The armed Predator went online in April of 2001. Rumsfeld couldn't allow the DoD to cover the costs of using it. That would have caused Osama extreme discomfort.

 

[loup garou]

*wiggles fingers in the air*

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Haven't you all noticed that Bush's approval rating is hovering around 40%, and suddenly Clinton is back in the news?

Gotta have a scapegoat.

Pathetic.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: ELP
Haven't you all noticed that Bush's approval rating is hovering around 40%, and suddenly Clinton is back in the news?

Gotta have a scapegoat.

Pathetic.

And Bush will never be used as a scape goat if the democrats win in 2k8?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ELP
Haven't you all noticed that Bush's approval rating is hovering around 40%, and suddenly Clinton is back in the news?

Gotta have a scapegoat.

Pathetic.

And Bush will never be used as a scape goat if the democrats win in 2k8?

It wouldn't surprise me if Bush is used as a scape goat in '06...... and by his own party at that.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

Internationally, we are seen as the stupid guys because of this mentality. I've heard it over and over - Americans are soi stupid that if they ran a red light, they would write themselves a ticket and turn themselves in. No wonder on one fears attacking us.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Condor
Internationally, we are seen as the stupid guys because of this mentality. I've heard it over and over - Americans are soi stupid that if they ran a red light, they would write themselves a ticket and turn themselves in. No wonder on one fears attacking us.

Yes, we're seen this way by countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt that just torture suspects into confessing whether they're guilty or not.

And by neo-fascist Russia, which is trying to take away the idea of defense lawyers entirely. They will have no attorney-client privilege and will lose thier independence, existing only to give an appearance of justice.

You may say "torture is A-OK!" and "only criminables get tried!" but isn't it better to get the actual perpetrators than just whoever is handy?

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


LOL, OBL's no threat, but it's still Clinton's fault.

The problems in Iraq must be Clinton's fault too??? What am I missing here?

Here's what you're missing, it's always someone else's fault, NEVER Bush's fault.

That's Bush's life story.

Go ahead, ask Bush if he ever made a mistake.

And "Clinton's dismal legacy"??? You people have the nerve to talk about Bush bashing and re-writing history every time anyone mentions the facts about Iraq, then you fire off a piece of gargabe like that?

Ridiculous.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

Internationally, we are seen as the stupid guys because of this mentality. I've heard it over and over - Americans are soi stupid that if they ran a red light, they would write themselves a ticket and turn themselves in. No wonder on one fears attacking us.

Yeah, I remember when the USSR wasn't afraid, and nuked us. Then there was the Chinese invasion. We have been attacked by countless nations. We are the whipping boy.

Coming soon to the SciFi channel!

 

[Mean MrMustard]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: ELP
Haven't you all noticed that Bush's approval rating is hovering around 40%, and suddenly Clinton is back in the news?

Gotta have a scapegoat.

Pathetic.

And Bush will never be used as a scape goat if the democrats win in 2k8?

But will he be scapegoat, or will he actually be cause of problems the Dems would try to fix?

 

[Rainsford]

You know what's funny about all these "Clinton was too soft to capture bin Laden" threads? The complaint, as far as I can tell, is that Clinton was some kind of namby-pamby wimp who didn't "do what it takes" to capture bin Laden. He took the "liberal" approach to fighting terrorism, and thus failed to capture bin Laden, or beat terrorism as a whole. The unspoken comparison is with Bush and the conservatives, who have both captured bin Laden and beaten the terrorists. Clearly their strategy is superior.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If I had to guess, it may be that whole "rule of law" +/- "we're the good guys so we hold ourselves to higher standard" thing.

Obviously, GWB wanted him "Dead or Alive" . . . I guess he settled for alive.

Internationally, we are seen as the stupid guys because of this mentality. I've heard it over and over - Americans are soi stupid that if they ran a red light, they would write themselves a ticket and turn themselves in. No wonder on one fears attacking us.

I guess the whole "most powerful nation in the world" thing was some sort of fluke.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
You know what's funny about all these "Clinton was too soft to capture bin Laden" threads? The complaint, as far as I can tell, is that Clinton was some kind of namby-pamby wimp who didn't "do what it takes" to capture bin Laden. He took the "liberal" approach to fighting terrorism, and thus failed to capture bin Laden, or beat terrorism as a whole. The unspoken comparison is with Bush and the conservatives, who have both captured bin Laden and beaten the terrorists. Clearly their strategy is superior.

Good point. 4 years after the start of our WoT, we've neither captured OBL nor stopped the terrorists. Welcome to unending war with no signs of victory.

 

[CessnaFlyer]

Thank GOD, Bush is president now!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
Thank GOD, Bush is president now!

Who were you before you were banned?

 

[classy]

Correct me if I am wrong. I do believe that Bin Laden and Sadamm had the full backing and support from Reagan and Bush Sr in the 80s. They got in the position they are in because of those 2. So rather than trying to blame those who may not have been able to stop them, blame those who helped put them in the positions of power in the first place.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: classy
Correct me if I am wrong. I do believe that Bin Laden and Sadamm had the full backing and support from Reagan and Bush Sr in the 80s. They got in the position they are in because of those 2. So rather than trying to blame those who may not have been able to stop them, blame those who helped put them in the positions of power in the first place.

Why do you Liberals hate America?!

Osama and his boys were fighting Communism in the late70s-early80s. Granted, you could argue we were supporting "freedom fighters", but we know that's not the reason the USA helped. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Saddam launched a pre-emptive war against the totalitarian theocracy of Iran. Granted, you could argue we were supporting . . . uh . . . give me a minute I'll think of some redeeming manner of characterizing unjustified aggression. Regardless, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
Thank GOD, Bush is president now!

Thank GOD you found a good proxy to sign up a new account with.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
Thank GOD, Bush is president now!

CessnaFlyer.....why don't you go crash and burn someplace else? We have enough juvinile dumbasses around here already.