Thats why the LOTR trilogy has made into the billions of dollars... because a few choice nerds. Riiiiiight.
Thats why the LOTR trilogy has made into the billions of dollars... because a few choice nerds. Riiiiiight.
As for Nadicott, I like how you justify and put your trust into the Academy for the LOTR awards, but when it comes to Sean Penn, you disagree.
Sean Penn did a great job of acting, that is what the award is for. I do not see how Bill Murray got robbed. I do think that he deserves an oscar for all of his previous achievements and works. But for Lost In Translation.. no, not when compared to the other roles like Johnny Depp and Sean Penn played.
Did Tim Robbins deserve his oscar? And why? It was for the same movie you seem to despise.
Sean Penn did a great job of acting, that is what the award is for. I do not see how Bill Murray got robbed. I do think that he deserves an oscar for all of his previous achievements and works. But for Lost In Translation.. no, not when compared to the other roles like Johnny Depp and Sean Penn played.
Did Tim Robbins deserve his oscar? And why? It was for the same movie you seem to despise.
MaxDepth
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The academy has a way of awarding either overall effort or for a body of work, instead of the particular actor's role or movie in and of itself.
IMHO, the second movie was better paced and more thrilling than the last. Also, ROTK one for best adapted screenplay which I think was wrong. The whole ending was wrong. I know they spent all that time working together but the last 30 minutes should have been served better. Yeah, they wanted to put their own end of the jounrey spin on it but they miss the whole point that the Hobbits come back changed. They are part of the whole world now and not an insular whole. It is believed Tolkein meant this to mean the British. The whole confrontation of Sauraman and Wormtongue in Bree was completed removed. Instead we had 30 minutes of hobbit bed-jumping goodbye.
There were others that should have won, but this is Hollyweird. Waddya going to do?
IMHO, the second movie was better paced and more thrilling than the last. Also, ROTK one for best adapted screenplay which I think was wrong. The whole ending was wrong. I know they spent all that time working together but the last 30 minutes should have been served better. Yeah, they wanted to put their own end of the jounrey spin on it but they miss the whole point that the Hobbits come back changed. They are part of the whole world now and not an insular whole. It is believed Tolkein meant this to mean the British. The whole confrontation of Sauraman and Wormtongue in Bree was completed removed. Instead we had 30 minutes of hobbit bed-jumping goodbye.
There were others that should have won, but this is Hollyweird. Waddya going to do?
Mystic River was predictable and as someone else stated, could have been an episode of Law and Order. It simply didn't have the undertones or power of Clint's previous works.
PowerEngineer
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While I'm not a big fan of the LOTR movies (because they will now destroy the pleasure of reading the books without knowing the ending for so many people), it would have clearly been a greater injustice not to recognize the quality of the three movies at least once. Clint shouldn't feel robbed; his best actor award for Unforgiven was more of a "life achievement" award too.
As far as the actor awards go, there were just too many characters in LOTR for any to merit nominations over others. Just who's supporting who in these films? That said, Gollum deserved a "precious" of some sort...
As far as the actor awards go, there were just too many characters in LOTR for any to merit nominations over others. Just who's supporting who in these films? That said, Gollum deserved a "precious" of some sort...
rh71
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I never said few. But do you people believe it's the majority of the world ? Think again. Billions can be made from any population that is not the majority. And that's only counting them seeing it once.Originally posted by: kenshorin
Thats why the LOTR trilogy has made into the billions of dollars... because a few choice nerds. Riiiiiight.
Take it this way.. Metallica has made ridiculous amounts of money from record sales alone. How many people can you say actually liked them in their prime ? Not a whole lot in the bigger picture, am I wrong ? Money can multiply easily. You can stick your
Considering the influence of "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" books and the huge success of the LotR movies I'd say a lot more than think. Sans the geek-filled midnight openings theaters typically held a wide cross section of people. I used to work at BlockBuster and everyone rented LotR movies. Unlike, lets say, Anime which was typically rented by stereotypical young, white geek male.
I think it's amusing that you are "all for sci-fi" when sci-fi and fantasy are basically the same genre w/some superfical differences. Instead of magic you have techno-gadgets. Instead of swords and bows you have light sabers and phasers. Instead of dwarves and orcs you have Klingons and Wookies.
Lethal
Originally posted by: rh71
I never said few. But do you people believe it's the majority of the world ? Think again. Billions can be made from any population that is not the majority. And that's only counting them seeing it once.Originally posted by: kenshorin
Thats why the LOTR trilogy has made into the billions of dollars... because a few choice nerds. Riiiiiight.
Take it this way.. Metallica has made ridiculous amounts of money from record sales alone. How many people can you say actually liked them in their prime ? Not a whole lot in the bigger picture, am I wrong ? Money can multiply easily. You can stick your.
The only book to outsell LOTR is the Bible. Are you still going to stick by your argument?
rh71
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What does that mean ? What does this statistic actually mean as to how many D&D fans there are ? All it tells me is that there are almost as many as there are religious fanatics. Not much substance there.Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: rh71
I never said few. But do you people believe it's the majority of the world ? Think again. Billions can be made from any population that is not the majority. And that's only counting them seeing it once.Originally posted by: kenshorin
Thats why the LOTR trilogy has made into the billions of dollars... because a few choice nerds. Riiiiiight.
Take it this way.. Metallica has made ridiculous amounts of money from record sales alone. How many people can you say actually liked them in their prime ? Not a whole lot in the bigger picture, am I wrong ? Money can multiply easily. You can stick your.
The only book to outsell LOTR is the Bible. Are you still going to stick by your argument?
Back to why what I said is true... MetallicA is/was one of the most successful bands in history, sold out concerts wherever they went... but how many of us are metal fans ? I know I am, but my kind is NOT the majority and there are a lot of people who think metal is garbage. So What ?
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