Clinton believes Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

tallest1

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So assuming that the Bush Administration is more informed than any of us - Iraq had stockpiles of biological and chemical weapons by the tons, missles that could launch at any moment, weapons that threatened neighboring countries, weapons so well hidden that our advanced technology and the worlds inspectors could not find them and then the moment we captured Sadaam, *poof* they all disappeared?

Riiiiiiiiight
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Hillary thinks they are all a bunch of ragheads who own gas stations, remember? ...naturally she is pro-war against them.
Rather is that what you think considering Hillary was referring to Indians not Iraqis?
 

MonkeyK

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I think it's pretty rare for a former US President to openly criticise or disagree with a current US President.

That said, I would disagree with the way we attacked Iraq, even if another President had done it.

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
What does Hillary think, heartsurgeon?

She thinks this:

Now I believe the facts that have brought us to this fateful vote are not in doubt. Saddam Hussein is a tyrant who has tortured and killed his own people, even his own family members, to maintain his iron grip on power. He used chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds and on Iranians, killing over 20 thousand people. Unfortunately, during the 1980's, while he engaged in such horrific activity, he enjoyed the support of the American government, because he had oil and was seen as a counterweight to the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran...

As a condition for ending the conflict, the United Nations imposed a number of requirements on Iraq, among them disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction, stocks used to make such weapons, and laboratories necessary to do the work. Saddam Hussein agreed, and an inspection system was set up to ensure compliance. And though he repeatedly lied, delayed, and obstructed the inspections work, the inspectors found and destroyed far more weapons of mass destruction capability than were destroyed in the Gulf War, including thousands of chemical weapons, large volumes of chemical and biological stocks, a number of missiles and warheads, a major lab equipped to produce anthrax and other bio-weapons, as well as substantial nuclear facilities...

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.
 

Gaard

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"When Clinton was here recently he told me he was absolutely convinced, given his years in the White House and the access to privileged information which he had, that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction until the end of the Saddam regime," he said in an interview with Portuguese cable news channel SIC Noticias.

Has Clinton ever expressed a theory as to where the WMD went/are?


Also, I'm a little confused why all of this priviledged information convinced (?) us of the existence of WMD...in fact, this priviledged information was so convincing(?) that we went to war over it...but we can't get any priviledged information giving us a clue as to where all the WMD are.

They were destroyed.
No wait, they were moved.
No wait, it was all a ploy by Saddam himself.
No wait, Saddam's subordinates were lying to him.
 

Witling

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Oh, Heart. This thread should be titled "Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Manuel Durao Barroso said Bill Clinton beileved that Iraq had WMD." After all, that's all the article says.

Second, I've got to love Hilary's quoted material. [Emphasis added by me]:

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security. Thank God Saddam didn't get the chance to "alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East." Our war stopped that and, incidentally, altered the political and security landscape of the Middle East."
 

Red Dawn

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Bwuahahahahaha..this is rich. Avowed Clinton haters now turning to Clinton to defend their boy, the Dub...LOL, like Clinton could have been able to garner the support of the Republicans to attack Iraq. The Republicans would have called it "Wagging the Dog":) Using what Clinton stated to defend Bush's screwup is pretty pathetic, especially coming from those who spent the last 8 years of the 90's whining like little girls about him.

 

Gaard

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Whitling - << Thank God Saddam didn't get the chance to "alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East." Our war stopped that and, incidentally, altered the political and security landscape of the Middle East.>>

:)
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bwuahahahahaha..this is rich. Avowed Clinton haters now turning to Clinton to defend their boy, the Dub...LOL, like Clinton could have been able to garner the support of the Republicans to attack Iraq. The Republicans would have called it "Wagging the Dog":) Using what Clinton stated to defend Bush's screwup is pretty pathetic, especially coming from those who spent the last 8 years of the 90's whining like little girls about him.

Frankly, I think HS (and some others here) would quote Satan himself if his soundbite supported their extremist ideologies.
 

tallest1

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bwuahahahahaha..this is rich. Avowed Clinton haters now turning to Clinton to defend their boy, the Dub...LOL, like Clinton could have been able to garner the support of the Republicans to attack Iraq. The Republicans would have called it "Wagging the Dog":) Using what Clinton stated to defend Bush's screwup is pretty pathetic, especially coming from those who spent the last 8 years of the 90's whining like little girls about him.

ROFL!
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bwuahahahahaha..this is rich. Avowed Clinton haters now turning to Clinton to defend their boy, the Dub...LOL, like Clinton could have been able to garner the support of the Republicans to attack Iraq. The Republicans would have called it "Wagging the Dog":) Using what Clinton stated to defend Bush's screwup is pretty pathetic, especially coming from those who spent the last 8 years of the 90's whining like little girls about him.

Frankly, I think HS (and some others here) would quote Satan himself if his soundbite supported their extremist ideologies.

I'm pretty sure I could say the some other "others" here too;)

The biggest thing this shows(which is what I've said when Clinton was brought up in this regard) is that Bush didn't just "make it up" which has been one of the chants from the left. I don't think anyone is saying that it suddenly makes the whole thing OK if it wasn't before, but it does make one wonder why people weren't up in arms about what Clinton did but yet now want to blame it all on Bush.

CkG
 

maluckey

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I hate to give Clinton any sympathy, but in this case I have to. The man was embroiled in controversey for a large portion of his carreer as President. If he invaded Iraq, people would assume it was a diversion, and if he did nothing, he was militarily weak. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. He chose to be called weak, instead of someone who starts a war to hide indiscretions. Pity really, as it could have revitalized the Democratic party, if Saddam was ousted by Clinton, instead of Bush.
 

chess9

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First of all this is probably THIRD HAND information. Secondly, NO FACTS are given to support the bald allegation.

Until Clinton tells us publicly what information he had and WHEN he had it, I'm going to assume that even if the quote is true it is bare-faced support for that nut he's married to.

So, now you're believing Clinton, eh? Did you get a heart transplant? :)

-Robert
 

zzzz

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Hillary thinks they are all a bunch of ragheads who own gas stations, remember? ...naturally she is pro-war against them.
Rather is that what you think considering Hillary was referring to Indians not Iraqis?


I dont think johngalt knows the difference.
 

Spencer278

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Bwuahahahahaha..this is rich. Avowed Clinton haters now turning to Clinton to defend their boy, the Dub...LOL, like Clinton could have been able to garner the support of the Republicans to attack Iraq. The Republicans would have called it "Wagging the Dog":) Using what Clinton stated to defend Bush's screwup is pretty pathetic, especially coming from those who spent the last 8 years of the 90's whining like little girls about him.

Frankly, I think HS (and some others here) would quote Satan himself if his soundbite supported their extremist ideologies.

I'm pretty sure I could say the some other "others" here too;)

The biggest thing this shows(which is what I've said when Clinton was brought up in this regard) is that Bush didn't just "make it up" which has been one of the chants from the left. I don't think anyone is saying that it suddenly makes the whole thing OK if it wasn't before, but it does make one wonder why people weren't up in arms about what Clinton did but yet now want to blame it all on Bush.

CkG


until bush shows some "good" bad intelligence like the stuff that one would assume they have but classified I think it is fair to assume he made it up.
 

kylebisme

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i agree Spencer, and also i don't think it is much of a streach to assume that Clintion is just lying to suit his own agenda here aswell.