Clinton aide accuses Obama of plagiarism

[ManSnake]

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Will this give Clinton enough of a boost to win WI tomorrow?

 

[RichardE]

Why would it? The person he plagiarized already came out and said he spoke to Obama about the same topics and they share ideas all the time, and the Obama camp already said that the individual was helping Obama with his speech and ideas about how words can mean something.

So in short, no

 

[Nitemare]

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...-to-borrowed-rhetoric/

everyone copies

 

[Starbuck1975]

I doubt it will...the Clinton campaign is grasping for straws at this point, looking for anything to break Obama's winning streak.

The Obama campaign already countered with YouTube clips of Hillary essentially lifting Obama's rhetoric as well.

The plagiarism in question is that one, or several, of Obama's speeches mirror those given by Deval Patrick during his campaign for governor of MA...Obama already admitted that the two speak frequently, and share many political ideas and language.

Is it plagiarism if the borrowed source approves of another candidate using their language...not much different than a candidate speaking the words provided by a speech writer.

This "plagiarism" charge is quite empty.

 

[techs]

If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

 

[yankeesfan]

Originally posted by: techs
If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

:roll:

Erm...no. If she loses, she can count herself unlucky.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: techs
If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

But you said she's up in Wisconsin

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
Clinton aide accuses Obama of plagiarism

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
The Obama campaign already countered with YouTube clips of Hillary essentially lifting Obama's rhetoric as well.

We've all been watching Hillary adapt Obma's message and phrasing (in some cases slightly changing a word here or there), it's so obvious it's grotesque. Not to mention even while doing so, she continues to insist "words" don't matter (then belieing this by following up with a quote ripped form Obama. The hypocracy and intellecual dishonesty of this woman is repulsive.)

Now that that's been noticed, she comes out and accuses her opponent of what she's been doing all along. Jeebus, gimme a break :roll:

This is all so typically Clintonian.

Edit: This may reveal the inevitable "new" tack of her campaign. I say inevitable because of the desperation. There's been so many I've lost count "experience", no, "experience of change", no "experience of change and hope". What's next? "Hopeless experience of changing myself into whatever might work"?

In last week's campaign staff shakeup, Billary brought in a guy known as "Doctor Death" for his widely feard op intel. I guess that they are going back on the attack etc.

Fern

 

[Vic]

No, but the Clinton desperation is starting to get ugly.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Vic
No, but the Clinton desperation is starting to get ugly.

Yeah, this one was really pathetic.

Patrick already came out and said he didn't expect any credit for words from Obama, and that, in fact, he was glad Obama used his words because he feels the attacks coming from Team Clinton have been unfair. Talk about a non-issue!

 

[Moonbeam]

Hillary never plagiarizes Bill. She never says anything he would say at all.

 

[CellarDoor]

Originally posted by: techs
If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

lmao. That's quite amusing considering Clinton was up by as many as 34% in polls in December.

 

[chowderhead]

it goes to the heart of his campaign. That speeches and words matter. He is running as a authentic candidate who will turn the page and change the tone of Washington. Words matter but ironically, those words are not his own. Joe Biden's 1988 Presidential campaign was basically ended when he got caught lifting parts of a speech from an English politician even though he had attributed that person in previous speeches. It goes to authenticity. John McCain has already attacked Obama for backtracking on his pledge of public financing for the general election as well as lifting parts of Hillary Clinton's economic plan. Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from other politicians. To me, it shows he is a standard politician.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
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Will this give Clinton enough of a boost to win WI tomorrow?

What kind of BS is this? I know Clinton plays dirty with the attack machine but this is pathetic.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: chowderhead
it goes to the heart of his campaign. That speeches and words matter. He is running as a authentic candidate who will turn the page and change the tone of Washington. Words matter but ironically, those words are not his own. Joe Biden's 1988 Presidential campaign was basically ended when he got caught lifting parts of a speech from an English politician even though he had attributed that person in previous speeches. It goes to authenticity. John McCain has already attacked Obama for backtracking on his pledge of public financing for the general election as well as lifting parts of Hillary Clinton's economic plan. Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from other politicians. To me, it shows he is a standard politician.

Because no one has ever thought of using historical, inspirational speeches as a point of contest in regards to someone challenging them as being pure rhetoric? I'm usually fairly passive about other people's political choices but this is possibly the most pathetic attack outside of claiming Obama is a terrorist. I truly don't understand where such misguided people originate.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: chowderhead
Now, Obama is lifting parts of speeches from other politicians. To me, it shows he is a standard politician.

Yeah, I better not hear any politition talking about "fiscal responsibility" I'm pretty sure I've heard that before. Same with "keeping America strong", "helping the middle class", or "cutting/raising taxes".

Nope, that would be blantant plagerism.


Can you imagine, some other politition thought "hope" and "change" might be good for his state? But now that he's used those, we can't adopt them as an idea for national politics.

I thought I heard a polition use the phrase "where's the beef?" in a debate some years ago. I think he outta be sued for plagerism.

I don't think there's been anything new or original in politics for thousands of years. The real trick is taking all these old "tools" and putting them to use in the right time and place.

(Note: Proper post usage requires sarcasm meter)

Fern

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
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Will this give Clinton enough of a boost to win WI tomorrow?

It didn't seem to matter much when the Clinton campaign plagiarized entire platform planks from the Edwards campaign so I don't think this will either.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: techs
If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

Is techs the new Riprorin?

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: techs
If Hillary scores within 7 percentage points in one of the most liberal states she can count herself lucky.

Your previous arguments included one about Hillary being stronger with the democratic base and Obama only being able to win in republican states and with independents? Did you get confused already?

If Hillary can't beat Obama with liberals, and can't win among independents, who exactly does she expect to vote for her?

 

[Dari]

http://www.boston.com/news/nat...nguage_of_hope/?page=1

 

[Pabster]

Duval Patrick: I Asked Obama To Use My Words

Will her surrogates shut the hell up now?

 

[StageLeft]

It was stupid, but it will take more than that to unseat obama's inevitable and unyielding clinch on the dem nomination.