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Rainsford

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For the record, I'm pro-abortion (that's right, not just pro-choice but pro-abortion) but yes, loliberals. Their definitions bend so easily on some topics you'd swear you were watching a slinky go down stairs.

And yet I can't help but notice how conveniently you managed to not even come close to taking a position on the issue you're bashing your strawman "liberals" for taking a position on ;)
 

MotF Bane

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For the record, I'm pro-abortion (that's right, not just pro-choice but pro-abortion) but yes, loliberals. Their definitions bend so easily on some topics you'd swear you were watching a slinky go down stairs.

How would you define a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion?
 

Rainsford

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Apr 25, 2001
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Why did this thread turn into yet another repetitive thread on abortion?

Because, along with gay marriage, it's a similar hot button political issue with virtually the same groups on the same sides. And long ago most people at least subconsciously realized that political "debate" is much less about issues than it is about sides :)
 

BoberFett

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How would you define a difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion?

It's a very subtle difference that likely only makes sense in my admittedly unpopular worldview. ;)

The difference is that when pro-choice and anti-abortion fanatics start slinging mud back and forth, the anti-abortion nuts often make claims such as "Pro-choicers like killing babies" to which the retort is "We don't like abortion, but we think the mother and her doctor are the only people who should make the decision." My point of view is that I actually like abortion. There are too many people on this planet as it is and would actually encourage more people to abort. It shouldn't be viewed as a sad act that women are forced into due to circumstances, it should be viewed as a happy occasion in which a woman is helping the world become a better place.

That's pro-abortion. :p
 

MotF Bane

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It's a very subtle difference that likely only makes sense in my admittedly unpopular worldview. ;)

The difference is that when pro-choice and anti-abortion fanatics start slinging mud back and forth, the anti-abortion nuts often make claims such as "Pro-choicers like killing babies" to which the retort is "We don't like abortion, but we think the mother and her doctor are the only people who should make the decision." My point of view is that I actually like abortion. There are too many people on this planet as it is and would actually encourage more people to abort. It shouldn't be viewed as a sad act that women are forced into due to circumstances, it should be viewed as a happy occasion in which a woman is helping the world become a better place.

That's pro-abortion. :p

:awe:
 

HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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Abortion is easy - it kills a human. Whenever a human is killed, especially when the only reason was that the human was an inconvenience, people tend to get upset.

When a woman has a spontaneous abortion who is guilty of murder?

The woman?
God?

Just asking.
 
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Greenman

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When a woman has a spontaneous abortion who is guilty of murder?

The woman?
God?

Just asking.

You really had to ask that question? You couldn't dig deep and puzzle it out all on your own?


Back on topic, I'm a pretty conservative fellow, and I absolutely agree that gays should enjoy every right and freedom that I do.
 

hal2kilo

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It's a very subtle difference that likely only makes sense in my admittedly unpopular worldview. ;)

The difference is that when pro-choice and anti-abortion fanatics start slinging mud back and forth, the anti-abortion nuts often make claims such as "Pro-choicers like killing babies" to which the retort is "We don't like abortion, but we think the mother and her doctor are the only people who should make the decision." My point of view is that I actually like abortion. There are too many people on this planet as it is and would actually encourage more people to abort. It shouldn't be viewed as a sad act that women are forced into due to circumstances, it should be viewed as a happy occasion in which a woman is helping the world become a better place.

That's pro-abortion. :p

I think for the second time, we completely agree. Abstinence and various birth control devices just don't work not only in the third world, but in the 1st and if there's such a thing as the second world.