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Click fraud showing no signs of abating. We need the government to crackdown on these fraudsters!

FelixDeCat

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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060716/click_fraud.html?.v=2

The motives for click fraud vary. Most often, Web site owners repeatedly click the ads on their own sites to generate money for themselves. In other cases, advertisers target the ads of their rivals to drain their marketing budgets.
The sales referrals generated by clicks on the brief advertising links popularized by the two Internet powerhouses are a sham 14.1 percent of the time, based on information collected from 1,300 online marketers.

When are we going to say "enough is enough" when it comes to this theft? We need to catch these little good for nothings and throw the book at them!
 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
ROFL
Those criminals wont be ROFLing very long when we throw them in the pokey for the next decade!
Actually, they will. We will never catch the majority of them. Sure, we can limit it, but that is about it. Even with that, there won't be more than one or two arrests per year because it isn't worth prosecuting all but the very worst offenders. Lastly, click fraud isn't THAT big of a problem, so it will not receive much attention.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
ROFL
Those criminals wont be ROFLing very long when we throw them in the pokey for the next decade!
Actually, they will. We will never catch the majority of them. Sure, we can limit it, but that is about it. Even with that, there won't be more than one or two arrests per year because it isn't worth prosecuting all but the very worst offenders. Lastly, click fraud isn't THAT big of a problem, so it will not receive much attention.
Oh yeah?

A recently released survey of 407 online advertisers by market research firm Outsell Inc. estimated click fraud cost advertisers $800 million last year.
Sounds like a big deal to me.



 

SarcasticDwarf

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
ROFL
Those criminals wont be ROFLing very long when we throw them in the pokey for the next decade!
Actually, they will. We will never catch the majority of them. Sure, we can limit it, but that is about it. Even with that, there won't be more than one or two arrests per year because it isn't worth prosecuting all but the very worst offenders. Lastly, click fraud isn't THAT big of a problem, so it will not receive much attention.
Oh yeah?

A recently released survey of 407 online advertisers by market research firm Outsell Inc. estimated click fraud cost advertisers $800 million last year.
Sounds like a big deal to me.

800 million? First, we must assume that the figure given is overestimated due to the source. Take a look around, anything not in the billions is not a siginificant amount.
 

LumbergTech

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all i can think is..who cares?

im guesing you have some cash or something

every single time there is a fraud claim they say they lose some huge amount that in itself is fraud because its guaranteed to be exaggerated , just like when the riaa talks about cd piracy and tries to claim it loses x amount its a lie
 

PokerGuy

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I don't think it's a particularly big deal, but the whole pay-per-click model is dumb anyway. Pay should be based on a pay-per-sale-generated basis, not a click basis. Much to easy to mess with....
 

LumbergTech

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Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't think it's a particularly big deal, but the whole pay-per-click model is dumb anyway. Pay should be based on a pay-per-sale-generated basis, not a click basis. Much to easy to mess with....
I won't lie, when i was younger I made quite a bit off of these types of things by utilizing some irc plugins etc..honestly i dont really care though, it was mainly from canadian porno companies ..oh the poor porn industry what will they do their being robbed via clicks!!

i dont do that type of crap anymore just because it isnt worth it
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't think it's a particularly big deal, but the whole pay-per-click model is dumb anyway. Pay should be based on a pay-per-sale-generated basis, not a click basis. Much to easy to mess with....
I won't lie, when i was younger I made quite a bit off of these types of things by utilizing some irc plugins etc..honestly i dont really care though, it was mainly from canadian porno companies ..oh the poor porn industry what will they do their being robbed via clicks!!

i dont do that type of crap anymore just because it isnt worth it
That, and most of the porn industry has abandoned the pay per click model anyway.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Crime does not pay!
Obviously it does, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem would it?

I think the market should just figure this one out. You can never eliminate fraud entirely, from anything. Companies just plan on a certain amount, and raise rates to compensate. And the cost to taxpayers to have the government try to catch everyone of them would greatly outweigh the benefit. Why should the taxpayers have to pick up the tab because advertising companies are unable to protect a business model they chose?

Not to mention the fact that a lot of these fraudsters are probably not based in the united states, making catching them all next to impossible.
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Crime does not pay!
Obviously it does, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem would it?

I think the market should just figure this one out. You can never eliminate fraud entirely, from anything. Companies just plan on a certain amount, and raise rates to compensate. And the cost to taxpayers to have the government try to catch everyone of them would greatly outweigh the benefit. Why should the taxpayers have to pick up the tab because advertising companies are unable to protect a business model they chose?

Not to mention the fact that a lot of these fraudsters are probably not based in the united states, making catching them all next to impossible.

Hogwash! Bust the big fish and the mid and little fish will get scared and quit. Also but a few small fry to teach 'em a lesson.

Treat them like drug dealers and confiscate their homes, cars, computers, bank accounts, 401ks, etc. The 'big chill' will do the rest. And internationally, insist trading partners particularly India, comply with stoping fraud or face economic sanctions.
 

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