Cleveland school losing major funding...

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LInk

Issues like this threaten American society at large! How you ask?

Little Tyrone is poor. He can't afford to go to a better school because his parents don't have the means financially to send him to the surrounding districts. Instead Tyrone has to endure the pathetic inner city school system: Lack of material, inadequate and decrepitated facilities, poor teaching, lack of computers, and lack of extra curricula activities. Tyrone's performance in school starts to tremendously suffer and as he progresses through the school system he has a hatred for school. Because the education system has failed Tyrone he starts lashing out behaviorally in class. He gets suspended a couple of times and then he starts to not show up for class. He drops out of the tenth grade. He can't find work and turns to the inner city gangs. Tyrone is now more likely to commit crimes against society but this probably could have been avoided if he had been better educated.

Now your wife and your child are leaving the supermarket with groceries. Tyrone is there and guess what? He's looking for a victim. He spots your wife and follows her. She doesn't notice this stranger and then it's to late... gun to the back of the head.

This is just a likely scenario that could happen to anyone of us. This terrible possibility becomes reality when we keep putting education on the back burner. Education lays the foundation for a better life. People that are educated are less likely to commit crimes, and are more likely to be productive members of society.

It's a disgrace and people who live in the inner city should sue the US government for improperly funding their child?s education. It's a shame that middle and upper class students can receive an adequate education in a modern school while inner city students have to suffer.

It amazes me that we can give literally millions to other countries but when it comes to giving money to issues that could actually do some good we ignore it until it bites us in the ass. Also, don?t even use the argument that in the past we have given plenty to schools. Only a small portion of that money trickles into the school system.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Little Tyrone is poor. He can't afford to go to a better school because his parents don't have the means financially to send him to the surrounding districts.

He wouldn't have this problem if the dems would stop pandering to the teachers union, do something good for the poor, and support school choice.

State budget cuts and a drop in tax collections created a $100 million deficit.

This has nothing to do with the IRAQ war; it's a state budget short fall. I'd hope that the fed would have the states take more responsibility for their schools with republicans in charge. Its un-constitutional to have the federal government fund schools.

 

[heartsurgeon]

It's a disgrace and people who live in the inner city should sue the US government

An UBER-Liberal!! lawyers will make everything better!! First off, the schools are primarily locally funded..the U.S. goverment doesn't have squat to do with this.

How about Tyrone's parents? aren't they resposible AT ALL in determining how he turns out..you rail against everyone else, but you never once mention the role of the parents (oops, probably parent...).

How about the teachers union? Don't they play a role in this? How about this crap:

Cleveland schools CEO Barbara Byrd-Bennett cried at an April board meeting as she announced that the budget had to be slashed.

But apparently she has a hefty income to make up for it..

She's offered to give up an upcoming raise and bonus that's expected to be similar to last year's 3 percent raise and $54,000 bonus. Byrd-Bennett, whose base salary is $278,000, has donated some of her previous bonus pay to charity.

gee.she makes $332,000, and she has offered to give up some of her "bonus". Yikes! what on earth does she do that merits that level of income....

get a grip...that bloated overfed teachers union should be oulawed, they should advertise for a new school CEO at a lower salary (i bet they will have plenty of good applicants for the job), and "tyrone's" parents should consider volunteering to work at the school.

geez....someone else's money is NOT always the answer to your problems....according to your point of view, all those home-schoolers out there should end up as mass-murderers...instead of scoring 1600 SATs and going to Harvard...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

It's a disgrace and people who live in the inner city should sue the US government

An UBER-Liberal!! lawyers will make everything better!! First off, the schools are primarily locally funded..the U.S. goverment doesn't have squat to do with this.

How about Tyrone's parents? aren't they resposible AT ALL in determining how he turns out..you rail against everyone else, but you never once mention the role of the parents (oops, probably parent...).

How about the teachers union? Don't they play a role in this? How about this crap:

Cleveland schools CEO Barbara Byrd-Bennett cried at an April board meeting as she announced that the budget had to be slashed.

But apparently she has a hefty income to make up for it..

She's offered to give up an upcoming raise and bonus that's expected to be similar to last year's 3 percent raise and $54,000 bonus. Byrd-Bennett, whose base salary is $278,000, has donated some of her previous bonus pay to charity.

gee.she makes $332,000, and she has offered to give up some of her "bonus". Yikes! what on earth does she do that merits that level of income....

get a grip...that bloated overfed teachers union should be oulawed, they should advertise for a new school CEO at a lower salary (i bet they will have plenty of good applicants for the job), and "tyrone's" parents should consider volunteering to work at the school.

geez....someone else's money is NOT always the answer to your problems....according to your point of view, all those home-schoolers out there should end up as mass-murderers...instead of scoring 1600 SATs and going to Harvard...

Teachers Union should be outlawed? What else should be outlawed Joe Stalin?

 

[heartsurgeon]

What else should be outlawed Joe Stalin?

Al Franken, Janine Garafolo, Paul Begala, Carville, Hillary, Bill, Sidney, Daschle, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, plaintiffs attorneys, the current tort system, the uppermost income tax bracket, all NPR "news" shows, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, medical malpractice systems (should be a state run board. like workman's comp), Geroge Soros, Al Qaeda...

that's just a start...

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

What else should be outlawed Joe Stalin?

Al Franken, Janine Garafolo, Paul Begala, Carville, Hillary, Bill, Sidney, Daschle, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, plaintiffs attorneys, the current tort system, the uppermost income tax bracket, all NPR "news" shows, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings, medical malpractice systems (should be a state run board. like workman's comp), Geroge Soros, Al Qaeda, France

...

that's just a start...[/quote]

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[chess9]

Heartsurgeon:

Don't forget all their supporters, without whom they'd be nothing. You guys could have the country to yourselves.

I wonder how long it would take before you'd raise the bar again and start another purge? Ad infinitum....

-Robert

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

He wouldn't have this problem if the dems would stop pandering to the teachers union, do something good for the poor, and support school choice.

My wife's school is one of the best in our county. So what's the reward for such performance . . . well if you are willing to drive 30 minutes you can work in a district that pays nearly 20% more. As for school choice, my wife's classroom is in one of those semi-permanent trailers. The only way they can add capacity would be to set up a tent city. Furthermore, how would you transport the county kids to a city school? I know of one city school family that was billing a district for $30/day in cab fare to pay for "school choice."

 

[piasabird]

I live near St Louis, MO and compared to rural schools the City of St. Louis has a lot more money per student than other locations. Money is not the answer. If Students wreck their own school yet the pricipal and the stupid Liberal School Board refuse to expell disruptive students, then you can expect more of the same. It is time for Tough Love.

 

[piasabird]

There are plenty of used computers available for someone to go after for little or nothing. However, most big schools just apply for a grant when they want new computers.

I went to school in the 60's and 70's and managed to get by without a typewriter for the most part. All a school needs is 4 walls, a chalkboard and some desks. If Students and Parents arent interested in learning, then dont expect them to learn much. This is more of a social problem than a school problem. If people beleive they can learn and succeed then they usually can succeed.

When I went to church I saw people coming to my area from Utah and going to the Dental School with their wives and kids in tow. After seeing how they were able to tough it out and succeed in life I decided to go to college at the age of 37. I have succeeded because the examples of others led me to beleive that I had a chance. You have to beleive you can succeed. I was laid off and was forced to take some grant job cleaning up brush and junk along the Rivers and drainage canals. After that grant money ran out, they told us thee was some money set aside for people in the program from people that wanted to go to school. I got some money from JTPA to go to school so I went back to college. It was the best decision I ever made. That grant job was tough work that most people did not want to do. However, because I chose to go to work instead of take unemployment, I succeeded in life.

The democratic party tries to tell people they can not succeed on their own without special help from the government. I do not belieive this. If students want to learn they can. I do not fall into this defeatist trap, because I choose not to accept defeat. Instead, I choose to challenge myself to do better, because I have a positive attitude. I work for a community college, and we gave out over 2 million dollars this year to people who simply filled out a FASFA Form and signed up to go to school. There is money available for underprivlidged people to go to school, but they have to ask for it and beleive they can succeed.

 

[heartsurgeon]

Freegeeks..i don't want to outlaw France...they have GREAT food and wine there,
just the French, well actually, just the Parisians....the regular frenchies outside of paris are very nice people.

parisians however, are swine (not frogs)

 

[heartsurgeon]

once again, using your analogy, homeschoolers should all be mass murderers..instead,
they represented something like 25% of the "finalists" in the 2004 spelling bee just on TV, and aq remarkable number of them end up at Harvard and other prestigeous schools.

what you need are parents that expect something from their kids, pay attention to who their friends are, AND PRESENT THEMSELVES AS ROLE MODELS OF BEHAVIOR..

kids learn an exceptional amount by observation.

if mom and dad are good citizens...the kids will turn out fine too. if mom and dad are scumbags, spending more money on the school system isn't goning to make junior turn out right.

and to somehow MAKE IT THE GOVERMENTS FAULT that some thug robs, kills, and maims people because we didn't provide him with a good enough school enviroment is moronic, and argues that people have no free will, and are not responsible FOR ANYTHING THEY DO.