Cleveland City Councilman's Letter Tells Teen 'Go to Jail or the Cemetery'

waggy

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CLEVELAND ? A city councilman fed up with crime told a teenager with a record that goes back two years to "go to jail or the cemetery," prompting the young man's mother to complain that the letter was threatening.

Was the letter from Councilman Michael Polensek a threat or a warning from a public official to a thug to get out of the neighborhood?

"I think of it as a death threat to my son. It's real simple," Tonya Lewis, mother of Arsenio T. Winston, 18, said Thursday. She said her son wasn't available for an interview but might be reached at another time.

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Polensek, Cleveland's longest-serving council member with 28 years, wasn't backing down.

"I'm not wrong on this issue," he said Thursday. He said the letter wasn't intended as a threat.

Polensek, who has had four vans stolen, mailed the letter last week after learning that Winston had been arrested in the blue-collar Collinwood neighborhood on July 3 on drug-trafficking charges.

"You are a `thug' and you know what," the letter said. "There are only two places you will end up at the rate you are going ? that is, prison or the nearest funeral home."

The letter said Winston "must be dumber than mud" to get arrested, called him "you crack dealing piece of trash" and said "only a moron" would get involved in an alleged assault on a police officer.

The letter was signed: "Go to jail or the cemetery soon ? Michael D. Polensek." Polensek said the signoff was meant to highlight the likely outcome of Winston's lifestyle.

Winston, who was charged with aggravated assault in 2005 and spent three months in juvenile detention, was arrested last year in the alleged assault on an officer but the case was dismissed. He is out on bond on the drug trafficking charge.

Polensek and Winston have a history. Polensek told Winston and his companions last year about complaints of broken glass and drug-dealing in a playground and asked them to clean up after themselves.

Winston, then 17, refused to shake hands, told Polensek to kiss his rear end and said he was heading for an NFL quarterback's job, Polensek said.

"I am so glad that you are now 18 years of age, because now you are an adult and can no longer hide behind the juvenile court system, Mr. Quarterback, loser," Polensek said in the letter.

Polensek made sure the letter got maximum exposure, sending copies to the mayor's staff, police commanders and to The Plain Dealer.

Polensek said he often writes blunt letters to troublemakers in his neighborhood and makes no apologies for the one to Winston.

Winston's mother said she wouldn't defend his lifestyle. "I don't approve of anything, any illegal activity," she said.





ok maybe the guy went a little overboard on teh name calling. but he is right. the guy is a loser and paice of trash.

the mother has her head up her ass. she has no idea what her son is doing or care's. the kid is either going to end up in jail or the cemetary. hopefully the latter so i don't have to pay for it.


wish more people in charge had the balls this guy does.
 

yllus

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Mr. Polensek sounds like a child in writing that letter, but I can't really disagree with his assessment of the future NFL hall of famer.
 

mugs

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That kid's mother must be "dumber than mud" if she thinks that was a threat.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: mugs
That kid's mother must be "dumber than mud" if she thinks that was a threat.

yeah but it gets her in the news and sympathy for her son.

 

Safeway

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: mugs
That kid's mother must be "dumber than mud" if she thinks that was a threat.

yeah but it gets her in the news and sympathy for her son.

The media should be saying, "Look at this fuck up."
 

1sikbITCH

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"And with the first pick in the 2011 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select... Arsenio Winston!"
 

Hacp

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Look at this. We elect corrupt officials, and they expect to be able to make death threats to our young and innocent children.
 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: yllus
Mr. Polensek sounds like a child in writing that letter, but I can't really disagree with his assessment of the future NFL hall of famer.

Exactly,

If the mother spent the time being angry and outraged at her sons behavior instead of the people trying to correct it, this situation would not exist.
 
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Frankly I don't want my elected official writing incoherent, insulting letters to teenagers, even if the recipients deserve them. Polensek sounds out of control to me.
 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: 1sikbITCH
"And with the first pick in the 2011 NFL draft, the Cincinnati Bengals select... Arsenio Winston!"

Hey, the Falcons are looking too.. Im sure they would put a "No Pets" clause in his contract though :laugh:
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Look at this. We elect corrupt officials, and they expect to be able to make death threats to our young and innocent children.

sarcasm hopefully?

but anyways, there's the problem with all these clowns, they think that they can just get into the NBA or NFL and be rich. Idiots.
 

TehMac

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I think he was saying, "You're a thug, you're going to be miserable either way, you either get to go to jail, or die in gang fights."

It's a shame the mother didn't get it, and try to shape her son up. Instead she tries to arouse sympathy for her brainless son who doesn't merit to be called human.

I hate stupid people like this.
 

uhohs

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"I am so glad that you are now 18 years of age, because now you are an adult and can no longer hide behind the juvenile court system, Mr. Quarterback, loser," Polensek said in the letter.

lol that's great.
 

KK

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I'd much rather have a politician tell it like it is, than hide behind some politically correct nonsense. If only more elected officials had the balls that this man does, maybe more shit in this country would get accomplished.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Look at this. We elect corrupt officials, and they expect to be able to make death threats to our young and innocent children.

wow.

did you read it? there was no death threat. just a warning where his life was headed.

and you are either fucking stupid or high to think the "child" was innocent.
 

Raduque

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Aug 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Safeway
Those are the two places the kid is likely to end up.

Indeed, and their community will be better for it if either one happens.