"clean" tobacco?

[xSauronx]

is he just a stupid hippy like i think he is? i know he smokes alot of weed, but a few months ago he stopped buying cigarettes by the pack and started rolling his own, claiming it was cheaper, that since it took time to roll he smoked less, and that, and this is what got me, his tobacco was pure tobacco and not filled with seeds and somethingsomething and somethingsomething like regular cigarettes, and thus had little to no cancer risk.

hes full of sh*t, right? because i dont care to actually look it up, thatd be silly

 

[Platypus]

Hahaha, yes, he is full of sh!t. I believe regardless of the source, burning tobacco has active carcinogens

 

[orakle]

it's official: your brother is an idiot.

 

[ubercaffeinated]

if smoke goes into your lungs, then yes, you increase your chances of getting cancer and COPD. hopefully he's one of those lucky robust guys, that never have a problem after 50 years of smoking. but those are the few, and the many aren't so lucky. rolling his own is probably worse since he isn't using a filter.

 

[Ameesh]

yes your brother is an idiot

 

[FoBoT]

:laugh:
is he a doctor? brain surgeon? rocket scientist?

 

[MrChad]

Cheaper? Probably. Little to no risk of cancer? Unlikely.

 

[doze]

Most rolling tobacco does not have as many additives and chemicals as cigarettes so it is a little better for you although you can still get cancer from it.

 

[confused1234]

actually he is kinda right. if you get 100% PURE tobacco with absolutely nothing added then its healthier then store bought cigs. but the problem is that crap is so hard to buy in the USA. an example of this is india. they smoke a lot, and the cancer rates are far below then what they are in the USA. <that only applied to the smokers btw

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: doze
Most rolling tobacco does not have as many additives and chemicals as cigarettes so it is a little better for you although you can still get cancer from it.

Isn't this what The Insider was about? That cigarettes are chemically-engineered (excuse that phrase if it's stupid) to be addictive, which introduces elements that make them much more harmful than they would have been in an unadulterated (tobacco) form?

 

[DurocShark]

It is cheaper. A buddy does it, and says it costs around a buck a pack to roll his own. Cheaper taxes or something. But how do you *know* there aren't any additives?

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
It is cheaper. A buddy does it, and says it costs around a buck a pack to roll his own. Cheaper taxes or something. But how do you *know* there aren't any additives?

i know its cheaper, which probably, for him, means more money to spend on weed. he takes a good hit a day, and probably 2.

when he told me about the clean thing i just looked at him for a minute and left the room.

damn hippy!

 

[imported_LoKe]

It's certainly cheaper, but not healthy. You're still burining it. Mind you, there are fewer additives, but hey, it's still a stick of death.

 

[rikadik]

Originally posted by: makoto00
if smoke goes into your lungs, then yes, you increase your chances of getting cancer and COPD. hopefully he's one of those lucky robust guys, that never have a problem after 50 years of smoking. but those are the few, and the many aren't so lucky. rolling his own is probably worse since he isn't using a filter.

How do you know he isn't using a filter?

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: rikadik

Originally posted by: makoto00
if smoke goes into your lungs, then yes, you increase your chances of getting cancer and COPD. hopefully he's one of those lucky robust guys, that never have a problem after 50 years of smoking. but those are the few, and the many aren't so lucky. rolling his own is probably worse since he isn't using a filter.

How do you know he isn't using a filter?

*raises hand*

i watched him roll the stuff just like he does a joint: right into some roll paper

 

[ubercaffeinated]

Originally posted by: rikadik

Originally posted by: makoto00
if smoke goes into your lungs, then yes, you increase your chances of getting cancer and COPD. hopefully he's one of those lucky robust guys, that never have a problem after 50 years of smoking. but those are the few, and the many aren't so lucky. rolling his own is probably worse since he isn't using a filter.

How do you know he isn't using a filter?

when you roll a cig, you aren't gonna have a filter. it'll be like lucky strike, but not cut. it's basically a joint. if he could afford filters, he wouldn't be rolling because it was "cheaper" now would he

anyways, it's definitely not healthier imo. the chief addictive substance in tobacco is nicotine and the "additives" don't make enough different to negate the damage tar does on the lungs. add that to the weed he's smoking. i'm sure the guy couldn't run to the living room without stopping to catch his breath.

 

[rikadik]

Originally posted by: makoto00

Originally posted by: rikadik

Originally posted by: makoto00
if smoke goes into your lungs, then yes, you increase your chances of getting cancer and COPD. hopefully he's one of those lucky robust guys, that never have a problem after 50 years of smoking. but those are the few, and the many aren't so lucky. rolling his own is probably worse since he isn't using a filter.

How do you know he isn't using a filter?

when you roll a cig, you aren't gonna have a filter. it'll be like lucky strike, but not cut. it's basically a joint. if he could afford filters, he wouldn't be rolling because it was "cheaper" now would he

anyways, it's definitely not healthier imo. the chief addictive substance in tobacco is nicotine and the "additives" don't make enough different to negate the damage tar does on the lungs. add that to the weed he's smoking. i'm sure the guy couldn't run to the living room without stopping to catch his breath.

Well most people I know who roll their own use filters, it'd be a bit rank not to, don't remember them being that expensive either!

 

[Gibsons]

It can (and will) still cause cancer. He might actually be at increased risk due to a lack of a filter (he'll certainly get more tar). Lots of other things to consider (who defines what an "additive" is, etc. etc.) but big point is tobacco = increased cancer risk.

 

[BoomerD]

IIRC, you can buy rolling kits that make filter cigarettes, with a huge savings over "tailor-mades", but they're not any healthier. He MAY not get as many chemical additives, depending on the brand of loose tobacco he buys, but most likley, he'll still get the nicotine and other carcinogens to give him long term health problems. Smoking non-filters gives more of what you buy a cigarette for, along with more health risks. (AND, there are studies that say that filtered cigarettes are worse than non-filters in many ways, because of the filter material and how it reacts to heat and the chemical soup in cigarette smoke.)

 

[bignateyk]

its MUCH cheaper, and yes, it does lower the health risk, but it certainly does not eliminate it.

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: bignateyk
its MUCH cheaper, and yes, it does lower the health risk, but it certainly does not eliminate it.

Do you have any references for lowering the health risk?

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Gibsons

Originally posted by: bignateyk
its MUCH cheaper, and yes, it does lower the health risk, but it certainly does not eliminate it.

Do you have any references for lowering the health risk?

not offhand, however, as others have mentioned it removes the chemical additives that are abundant normally. It is also possible to filter your hand-rolled cigs. The cancer risk from the tobacco is still the same though. If you are gonna smoke, hand-rolled is a much better alternative, if only for cost alone.

 

[PinmasterJay]

Originally posted by: rikadik
Well most people I know who roll their own use filters, it'd be a bit rank not to, don't remember them being that expensive either!

I agree, my roomate did it for a while, used filters, still really cheap

 

[Azraele]

He's inhaling smoke. Smoke doesn't make lungs happy. It does not eliminate the health risk.

 

[ICAREFORYOUU]

buy him some sunflower seeds.. maybe he'll cut back or something.