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Class im taking this fall .... will it be like AT politics and news?

Schadenfroh

Schadenfroh

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(sophmore year, college that is)

Social Problems

description:

"An analysis of representative contemporary problems facing American society, with emphasis on the causes which arise from cultural patterns and social change, and a discussion of possible solutions. Three semester hours credit."
 
it will be a lot of people talking about themselves.

serious. when i took asian american studies classes, all it was was girls talking about themselves.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
(sophmore year, college that is)

Social Problems

description:

"An analysis of representative contemporary problems facing American society, with emphasis on the causes which arise from cultural patterns and social change, and a discussion of possible solutions. Three semester hours credit."
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Depending on which college your attending it'll be either people with that just rant and rave. Or it'll rather intellectual and you'll have heated discussions about important things. Example, how do you stop two religious groups that have hated each other since the beginning of time to stop hating each other? (Jews and Arabs)
 
No, it shouldn't be. Is this offered through a poli sci department or through sociology? I personally find soc. departments to be more ideological than poli sci.
 
Originally posted by: CMC79
No, it shouldn't be. Is this offered through a poli sci department or through sociology? I personally find soc. departments to be more ideological than poli sci.
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sociology department
 
Sociology attracts a lot of ideological types, esp. Marxists, in part because of the roots of the discipline itself. It almost goes without saying that the prof will be a left of center type (I can only think of one major conservative sociologist--James Q. Wilson, who is half political scientist anyway. If any of you took AP US government in HS, chances are you used the book he co-wrote). So you will have some students in the class who will simply utter taglines from the official race/class/gender phrasebook...if it's that it will be a boring "isn't it wonderful we're all so enlightened" party. If you're not one of the bien pensant people whose future career plans aren't "______ activist," then it could be a long semester. On the other hand, if you get a diverse group of opinions, then it will be a fantastic class (within the limits of what soc. can explain--but that's another story from someone trained as an historian).
 
Originally posted by: freesia39
it will be a lot of people talking about themselves.

serious. when i took asian american studies classes, all it was was girls talking about themselves.
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You are lucky. My brother took Americas' Literature (notice 'Americas') in college, and latino-descent professor turned it into 'Mexican writers fighting capitalist pigs from US'.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
Originally posted by: freesia39
it will be a lot of people talking about themselves.

serious. when i took asian american studies classes, all it was was girls talking about themselves.
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You are lucky. My brother took Americas' Literature (notice 'Americas') in college, and latino-descent professor turned it into 'Mexican writers fighting capitalist pigs from US'.
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Yeah, classes like these are more like collective group therapy that simply push the idea of collective guilt on others. My wife took a class called Intro to Minority Women's Literature, which she quickly dubbed "Intro to Bitches."

I would avoid any "____ Studies" class or department. They are havens for pseudo-scholars, charletans, victimization fetishists, and the worst kind of ideological group-think. The path to advancement there is not original research that comes up with new ideas, but producing research that agrees with the conclusions that have already been deemed acceptable. Welcome back to the USSR, comrades.
 
I took a sociology class called "Social Problems" senior year of college and it was nothing like P&N. we spent the semester reading and discussing these three books:

The McDonaldization of Society

Life Is a Miracle: An Essay Against Modern Superstition

and

Taking It Big : Developing Sociological Consciousness in Postmodern Times

we spent most of the class talking about the theories argued in the books and viewing contemporary issues in their light. there were also optional outside reading assignments involving reading / writing about books like 1984, Brave New World, and Fight Club.
 
Originally posted by: corpseofworms
Originally posted by: sixone
No. There will be no conservative views presented, hence no arguments.
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Agreed. We don't feel the need for that kind of compensation.
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if it's a good professor, s/he will encourage class discussion and other viewpoints for debate.
 
Well, our prof. turned out to be like a forum troll. This is my 2nd day. She handed out a slip of paper with flame bait questions on them like gay rights, abortion, gun control, about 10 of these and asked us to give our opinions and thoughts of them. It got VERY heated in there and she stayed neutral the entire time.
 
Originally posted by: Syrch
Im not sure anything is like P/N
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How about the 24 hour news networks when they have the extreme left and extreme right in a yelling match
(could be like maybe .... conjur vs Riprorin).

Then they have commercials.
(banner ads).

Then it becomes all personal attack, attack credibillity, etc, argue anything BUT the actual topic at hand or any actual details involved.
(See all the replies in the threads.)

Then the show runs out of time, and nothing is solved.
(thread got locked)



WOWOOWOWOWO THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ALMOST!

However, there are SOME good (or at least entertaining) posts on P&N. There would be a lot more if people would post ALL News there instead of in OT. P&N doesn't just have to be P.
 
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Originally posted by: Syrch
Im not sure anything is like P/N
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How about the 24 hour news networks when they have the extreme left and extreme right in a yelling match
(could be like maybe .... conjur vs Riprorin).

Then they have commercials.
(banner ads).

Then it becomes all personal attack, attack credibillity, etc, argue anything BUT the actual topic at hand or any actual details involved.
(See all the replies in the threads.)

Then the show runs out of time, and nothing is solved.
(thread got locked)



WOWOOWOWOWO THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME ALMOST!

However, there are SOME good (or at least entertaining) posts on P&N. There would be a lot more if people would post ALL News there instead of in OT. P&N doesn't just have to be P.
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P&N is far worse than any show on TV in regards to people bashing one another or ideas.
 
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