clarence thomas's wife calls anita hill

[UberNeuman]

I... don't... get... it...

why is this news? why was this all over today's mainstream talk radio? why was this the lead story on all the network news programs? (I don't know, I just happened to be flipping through channels at that time anita hill on cbs, anita hill on nbc, surprise to see anita hill on abc)

Would you admit it's a bit fucked up that she made that call?

 

[Narmer]

Where is that video from?

 

[manimal]

She made the call at 730am. She had just read the article in the DC paper outlining her organization taking in two donations, one for 500K, the other for 50K from anonymous donors..
Yes her grass roots org....

deflecting a bomb with a missile on the other hand just shows her lack of savvy.

 

[shira]

Maybe the lovely Ginni

found her hunky Clarence

fondling an old coke can.

 

[cubby1223]

Would you admit it's a bit fucked up that she made that call?

Why? Are you equating that someone doing something "a bit fucked up" is all that is necessary to be the day's top news story?

I admit that I don't fucking care one ounce about this "situation" and see no relevance at all to my daily life.

 

[woolfe9999]

Why? Are you equating that someone doing something "a bit fucked up" is all that is necessary to be the day's top news story?

I admit that I don't fucking care one ounce about this "situation" and see no relevance at all to my daily life.

Then why have you posted now twice in this thread? Apparently it really bothers you that other people find this newsworthy. So you don't care about the event, but you do care that other people care?

- wolf

 

[preCRT]

Virginia Thomas is a crackpot.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/20/AR2010102006795.html

 

[Perknose]

wait, she wants a woman who claimed came forth very reluctantly and swore under oath that she was harassed by her husband to apologize like that dude dick cheney shot apologized to dick cheney?

fify

Fixed your fix for you.

Your use of "claimed" certainly sounds reserved and judicious, doesn't it?

It's not at all the case that your own deeply partisan bias is blinding you to the OBVIOUS PIG that Clarence Thomas is, is it?

Keep telling yourself that while you try to dismiss and minimize some more mere "claims" now put forth by people who also have really nothing to gain and actually a lot to lose in the right wing smear machine crosshairs by coming forward:

Whether Ginni Thomas expected her call to Hill to become public is not known. But it had at least one consequence that she probably did not anticipate: It prompted a former girlfriend of her husband's, who had kept her silence since the 1991 controversy, to say publicly that she found Hill's testimony credible.

Lillian McEwen, a retired administrative law judge who said she dated Clarence Thomas from 1979 through the mid-1980s, told The Washington Post: "The Clarence I know was certainly capable of not only doing the things that Anita Hill said he did, but it would be totally consistent with the way he lived his personal life then."

[...]

In 1993, Ginni Thomas attended a book party for author David Brock upon the publication of his book "The Real Anita Hill," which raised questions about Hill's credibility. When he admitted in a subsequent book, "Blinded by the Right," that his Hill reporting had been slanted, he became a pariah among conservatives. A concerned Thomas left a voice mail for Brock saying that she was praying for him and that she hoped they could still be friends.

The Haya I used to know could smell and brand a PIG like Clarence Thomas from a million miles away.

You lie down with and make minimizing excuses for pigs, you wake up with pig slop on your soul.

What the hell happened to you?

 

[shira]

Three years ago, Ruth Marcus - Washington Post columnist - wrote an Op-Ed piece in response to Thomas' rage-filled book, "My Grandfather's Son." In that column, she layed out the strong evidence that Thomas conveniently left out of his denunciation of Anita Hill. A long excerpt from that column:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/02/AR2007100201822.html

Thomas v. Hill is one of those questions destined to remain disputed -- Did Al Gore actually win the presidency? Was the intelligence manipulated to mislead us into Iraq? The conundrum of Thomas-Hill is the continuing forcefulness of their conflicting assertions about what happened when he was a Reagan administration official and she a young lawyer working for him.

If Thomas did what Hill claims, how to understand his undimmed anger, his absolute denials, his willingness to pick the scab anew? If he didn't, how to understand her motive for lying -- and her summoning such unlikely details as pubic hairs on Coke cans?

I covered the Thomas hearings for The Post, every excruciating hour, and I can imagine, as Kevin Merida and Michael A. Fletcher suggest in their book, "Supreme Discomfort," that the entire story has not been told. Perhaps there was some flirtation, maybe more, that it behooved neither party to acknowledge.

But I also believe the evidence then backed Hill's version of events. What has emerged since only further buttresses her assertions.

Thomas describes Hill as a "touchy and apt to overreact" employee whom he'd refused to promote; who asked to follow him from the Education Department to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission after the alleged harassment; and who continued to seek his professional help after leaving the agency.

"I felt sure that I had never said or done anything to her that was even remotely inappropriate," he writes, and, if he had, "she would have complained loudly and instantly, not waited for a decade to make her displeasure known." For his part, Thomas describes himself as "one of the least likely candidates imaginable for such a charge."

Here is some of the evidence Thomas omits:

First, Hill did not wait 10 years to complain about his behavior. Susan Hoerchner, a Yale Law School classmate of Hill's, described how she complained of sexual harassment while working for Thomas, saying the EEOC chairman had "repeatedly asked her out . . . but wouldn't seem to take 'no' for an answer." Ellen Wells, a friend, said Hill had come to her, "deeply troubled and very depressed," with complaints about Thomas's inappropriate behavior. John Carr, a lawyer, said that Hill, in tears, confided that "her boss was making sexual advances toward her." American University law professor Joel Paul said Hill had told him in 1987 that she had left the EEOC because she had been sexually harassed by her supervisor.

Second, Hill was not the only former subordinate of Thomas's with complaints. Former EEOC employee Angela Wright described how Thomas pressured her to date him, showed up uninvited at her apartment and asked her breast size. "Clarence Thomas would say to me, 'You know you need to be dating me. . . . You're one of the finest women I have on my staff," Wright told Senate investigators.

Wright's account was corroborated by Rose Jourdain, a former speechwriter who, like Wright, was dismissed by Thomas. Jourdain said Wright had complained that she was "increasingly nervous about being in his presence alone" because of comments "concerning her figure, her body, her breasts, her legs."

Another former Thomas employee, Sukari Hardnett, said of his office, "If you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female."

Third, as Merida and Fletcher found, some of the behavior Hill complained about resonated with episodes from Thomas's past. Hill described an episode in which Thomas, drinking a soda, asked, "Who has put pubic hair on my Coke?" James Millet, a college classmate of Thomas's, recalled "an almost identical episode" at Holy Cross. "Pubic hair was one of the things he talked about," another classmate said. Jane Mayer and Jill Abramson, in "Strange Justice," found two others who recalled a pubic hair-Coke can comment at the EEOC.

Similarly, Thomas had a well-known taste for the kind of extreme pornography Hill said he brought up with her. "Listening to her, it was as if I was listening to the guy I knew speak," said law school classmate Henry Terry. Washington lawyer Fred Cooke saw Thomas, while EEOC chairman, checking out a triple-X video of "The Adventures of Bad Mama Jama."

Thomas dismisses these claims as the workings of a mob -- in pinstripes instead of white robes -- seeking to "keep the black man in his place." He may have convinced himself of this. The record suggests otherwise.

Obviously, you can take the position that all of these Thomas naysayers were part of a lying conspiracy, but that seems a pretty big stretch. And surely after all these years at least one of the "conspirators" would have "'fessed up" that they had done Thomas wrong, just as David Brock apologized to Anita Hill.

Personally, I thinks Thomas was and is a scum-bag with an overarching sense of entitlement, and his self-righteous bitch of a wife brings the same denial-of-reality mentality to her appraisal of her husband as she does to the rest of her political efforts.

 

[werepossum]

Back when Thomas was doing his pubic-coke-can thing, Hill was pretty darned foxy.

I can't speak for cross-species attraction involving bonobos, but I'd certainly have tapped that. And as for Thomas' sexual attractions:

Let's just say Hill was waaaay out of his league.

Hmmm - I stand corrected.

I still don't believe she was sexually harassed. Women who are sexually harassed (at least, against their will) don't repeatedly call the man who harassed them once they are out of the situation, nor do they try to willingly put themselves into that same work environment again.

 

[Pens1566]

I hardly think a woman who has actually been sexually harassed spends the next decade calling him repeatedly. I do think a woman who spent a decade trying to sleep her way into a good job - and failing - would invent testimony if offered potential rewards. Hell, maybe just to punish him for not recognizing her brilliance.

And have you SEEN Hill? Drunken bonobos hopped up on Viagra and poppers wouldn't have the hots for her.

Uh, have you seen his wife? If forced to choose based on looks, Hill wins.