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Clarence Thomas needs to go

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BarneyFife

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"CT" has reported gifts of $42k over the last 6 years. Nobody knows how many gifts he didn't report but the fact that the other justices only have received $5k in gifts during that time period is alarming.

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has accepted tens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts since joining the high court, including $1,200 worth of tires, valuable historical items and a $5,000 personal check to help pay a relative's education expenses.
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Since joining the court, Thomas reported accepting gifts valued at $47,745. He also reported other gifts without citing a dollar value, ranging from "small gifts and flowers" to free plane trips and accommodations from friends." I wonder what these "small gifts" are that he assigns no value or the free vacations.
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I don't think anyone is giving high prices gifts out of their goodness, they are giving gifts because they want a favor in return. This guy is abusing his position.
 
Saw where he was being considered for Chief Justice. 'Bout fell off my Aeron! Only in the "compassionate conservative", "Clean Skies Initiative", "Uniter, not a divider", "Mission Accomplished", "No child left behind" bizarro world of Bush! :roll::|:shocked::thumbsdown:
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Saw where he was being considered for Chief Justice. 'Bout fell off my Aeron! Only in the "compassionate conservative", "Clean Skies Initiative", "Uniter, not a divider", "Mission Accomplished", "No child left behind" bizarro world of Bush! :roll::|:shocked::thumbsdown:
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Yeah, lots of places are bizarro worlds. I mean some places/people claim one thing yet all the while know what they say and do are two different things.

Maybe Clarence isn't Chief Justice material but that should be decided and based on how he performs as a justice.

CsG
 
Shouldn't it be illegal for these guys to get gifts? I mean, they shouldn't be influenced in any way, and should only be looking at things with the hope of doing what is right for the AMERICAN PEOPLE. *sigh*
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Shouldn't it be illegal for these guys to get gifts? I mean, they shouldn't be influenced in any way, and should only be looking at things with the hope of doing what is right for the AMERICAN PEOPLE. *sigh*
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They would just rule that law Unconstitutional and accept the gifts anyways. 😀
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
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"CT" has reported gifts of $42k over the last 6 years. Nobody knows how many gifts he didn't report but the fact that the other justices only have received $5k in gifts during that time period is alarming.
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<cynic>Maybe he's just not as cheap as the other justices.</cynic>
 
Originally posted by: glugglug
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
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"CT" has reported gifts of $42k over the last 6 years. Nobody knows how many gifts he didn't report but the fact that the other justices only have received $5k in gifts during that time period is alarming.
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<cynic>Maybe he's just not as cheap as the other justices.</cynic>
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😛 ROFL!!! 😛

CsG
 
That doesn't make any sense. How is Clarence Thomas being influenced.


The man never asks questions, almost never speaks up, never writes any significant opininions, and always votes a strict constructionist line with very poor arguments.

At least Scalia has shown he is a reasoned man.

If Clarence Thomas is being bought, whoever is buying him isn't buying much. One of the worst justices ever.
 
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
I don't think anyone is giving high prices gifts out of their goodness, they are giving gifts because they want a favor in return. This guy is abusing his position.
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Or giving 'thanks' for favors that were already done for them. :frown:
 
Congratulations on the smear job!

Democrats don't like Clarence Thomas because he's 1) a Republican, 2) a conservative, 3) an opponent of affirmative action.

They have a long history of pilloring popular black figures for committing Rebublican heresy. Just look at Jackie Robinson, James Brown, Sammy Davis, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice, to name a few.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Shouldn't it be illegal for these guys to get gifts? I mean, they shouldn't be influenced in any way, and should only be looking at things with the hope of doing what is right for the AMERICAN PEOPLE. *sigh*
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Haha. The Supreme Court has never done any such thing. It is a court of despots who believe that they should have a monopoly on ultimate decision making in a land of 300 million people. Actually, the Constitution has always been quite meaningless in that it does not bind anyone to anything other than the original singers. Hence, the Supreme Court consists of people who are "interpreting" a document that has absolutely no authority. Anyone who thinks that the Supreme Court is a check or balance against the other tentacles of government needs to read this: The Myth of the Rule of Law.

It is not Clarence Thomas who needs to go, the entire Supreme Court needs to go.
 
The Supreme Court has interpreted this:
Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
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To mean that the Congress had the power to pass the Federal Reserve Act and issue irredeemable pieces of paper as legal tender.
 
He's malleable. That's why he's there. He doesn't have an original thought in his head. He'll just vote the way he's instructed by the Republicans.
 
To be honest, they all do it (Judges, Senators, Republicans and Democrats). Some more than others, but they all take their perks and "innocent" handouts. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. Doesn't make it right, but that's the way it is.

Oh, and with the current Congress deciding to lower their own ethics (unchallenged, of course), it will be much worse than now.

Rip, Smear? I'm glad you approve of our country's officials taking "gifts". You don't really think that the "gifts" sway anyone, do you? (See $40,000,000 donated by Corporations to Inaguaration balls for example. No strings attached....uh huh.)
 
Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Maybe Clarence isn't Chief Justice material but that should be decided and based on how he performs as a justice.

CsG
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what does that mean exactly?
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Oh, and WOW.....exactly is right. If he wants to do that at home, fine....but in the courtroom....man needs help and needs to be removed!!!

 
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Perknose
Saw where he was being considered for Chief Justice. 'Bout fell off my Aeron! Only in the "compassionate conservative", "Clean Skies Initiative", "Uniter, not a divider", "Mission Accomplished", "No child left behind" bizarro world of Bush! :roll::|:shocked::thumbsdown:
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Yeah, lots of places are bizarro worlds. I mean some places/people claim one thing yet all the while know what they say and do are two different things. Don't be so hard on yourself, there, CAD!😉

Maybe Clarence isn't Chief Justice material but that should be decided and based on how he performs as a justice.

CsG
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I think I'll just let Justin answer this one for you:
The man never asks questions, almost never speaks up, never writes any significant opininions, and always votes a strict constructionist line with very poor arguments.

At least Scalia has shown he is a reasoned man.

If Clarence Thomas is being bought, whoever is buying him isn't buying much. One of the worst justices ever.
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Now, go ahead, do your little CAD dance. We all know how it goes:

Slip a sly little insinuation in there (like you just did above!), never admit you're wrong, go for the smug off topic partisan put down (like, "Move along, nothing to see here folks."), and, always and forever, include more weasely twists and turns of tortured non-logic than John Hinkley on crystal methadrine arguing for his immediate release before a parole board.

Oh! Don't forget the fake outrage!



 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Congratulations on the smear job!

Democrats don't like Clarence Thomas because he's 1) a Republican, 2) a conservative, 3) an opponent of affirmative action.

They have a long history of pilloring popular black figures for committing Rebublican heresy. Just look at Jackie Robinson, James Brown, Sammy Davis, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice, to name a few.
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It's not a smear job, it's simple facts. He accepts way more gifts than his peers. That is a fact. Now, you can either view this as good or bad. Obviously you think this is good, or at least doesn't matter. Rather than calling names and playing the race card, why don't you explain why it's ok for him to accept that many gifts.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Congratulations on the smear job!

Democrats don't like Clarence Thomas because he's 1) a Republican, 2) a conservative, 3) an opponent of affirmative action.

They have a long history of pilloring popular black figures for committing Rebublican heresy. Just look at Jackie Robinson, James Brown, Sammy Davis, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice, to name a few.
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I have nothing against CT. I just find it inappropriate that he's getting 5k checks for his family education bills and private jets are picking him up for free vacations. You're nothing but a political hack, RIP. I can't believe you preach morals and then try to smear me by accusing me of trying to bring down a black republican. For some reason if Republicans came out tomorrow saying that abortion was alright, you'd be in line right behind them. Preach the bible and from your heart. Don't give me the republican line or I'll put you in the fake Christian category.
 
i dunno, i guess i don't really care... as long as he is reporting everything, any conflicts of interest should be visible to us.
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Perknose
Saw where he was being considered for Chief Justice. 'Bout fell off my Aeron! Only in the "compassionate conservative", "Clean Skies Initiative", "Uniter, not a divider", "Mission Accomplished", "No child left behind" bizarro world of Bush! :roll::|:shocked::thumbsdown:
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Yeah, lots of places are bizarro worlds. I mean some places/people claim one thing yet all the while know what they say and do are two different things. Don't be so hard on yourself, there, CAD!😉

Maybe Clarence isn't Chief Justice material but that should be decided and based on how he performs as a justice.

CsG
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I think I'll just let Justin answer this one for you:
The man never asks questions, almost never speaks up, never writes any significant opininions, and always votes a strict constructionist line with very poor arguments.

At least Scalia has shown he is a reasoned man.

If Clarence Thomas is being bought, whoever is buying him isn't buying much. One of the worst justices ever.
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Now, go ahead, do your little CAD dance. We all know how it goes:

Slip a sly little insinuation in there (like you just did above!), never admit you're wrong, go for the smug off topic partisan put down (like, "Move along, nothing to see here folks."), and, always and forever, include more weasely twists and turns of tortured non-logic than John Hinkley on crystal methadrine arguing for his immediate release before a parole board.

Oh! Don't forget the fake outrage!
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Well when people are put in positions of power some have a hard time not letting things affect their decisions. I mean people here are saying Clarence is letting partisanship and/or gifts affect him - thus saying he shouldn't be in the position he is or be promoted -right? How exactly does that not reach to other places/people? It only happens to Court Justices? Don't get me wrong, some people do as they say even when place in positions of power but the saying "Power corrupts - Absolute power corrupts absolutely" didn't come from nowhere now did it?

Anyway - I don't know if he'll be nominated for the chief spot or not -but since it's merely speculation at this point, shouldn't we wait before the partisan attack dogs are released on the man?

CsG
 
power but the saying "Power corrupts - Absolute power corrupts absolutely" didn't come from nowhere now did it?
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Reminds me of another thread going on around here that was mentioned.....sorta one sided thread though.

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Congratulations on the smear job!

Democrats don't like Clarence Thomas because he's 1) a Republican, 2) a conservative, 3) an opponent of affirmative action. ...
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Maybe, maybe not. I'll let the Dems speak for themselves. This Independent doesn't like him because he lacks the qualifications and moral character for the job. Coincidentally, this is also why I initially opposed Bush, though he has since managed to slink below even my low expectations for him.

Re. the OP, no public figure should be allowed to accept gifts of more than nominal value, e.g., a cup of coffee. Many government organizations have rules to this effect for their employees. Not too surprisingly, however, the leadership of those organizations are often exempt from those restrictions.

Many corporations have the exact same double standard, by the way.
 
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