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Cities can not destroy homeless people's property

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Texashiker

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LA passed an ordnance that allowed cleanup crews and the police to seize and destroy property belonging to homeless people.

Some of the property included documents, medications, family memorabilia, toiletries, cell phones, sleeping bags and blankets.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0906-homeless-lapd-20120906,0,5152005.story

A district court ruled for the homeless, and the city appealed. In upholding an injunction against Los Angeles, the 9th Circuit said a person does not lose his or her 4th Amendment protection from unlawful seizures by violating a city ordinance.
Strike up a win for the little people.
 

EagleKeeper

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Yet at what point are the homeless/miscreants allowed to make a mess of public property.

Nothing can stop them from setting up shop inside a government building or on private property.
unreasonable is the key.
Making a nuisance is also unreasonable.

So the city needs to have a warrant against John Doe to move the homeless and or an direct order for the location of the physical area.
 

kia75

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It's not about removing the homeless but about destroying their property. You can remove\arrest someone without destroying their only piece of clothes or their scant valuables.
 
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The homeless people cant just occupy property and claim it belongs to them but there actual property that they bring CANT be taken away this is just wrong and another reason for smaller government.
 

nehalem256

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The homeless people cant just occupy property and claim it belongs to them but there actual property that they bring CANT be taken away this is just wrong and another reason for smaller government.
What do you think will happen to your property if you decide to dump it on a city sidewalk?
 

EagleKeeper

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Government needs to show up with a large UHaul box and put in the items.

Seal it up; log it and store it.
 

Moonbeam

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Government needs to show up with a large UHaul box and put in the items.

Seal it up; log it and store it.
And charge rent and then auction it off on TV when the bills aren't paid so Republicans can jack off with glee that some poor bastard got fucked. You assholes are monsters.
 

EagleKeeper

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And charge rent and then auction it off on TV when the bills aren't paid so Republicans can jack off with glee that some poor bastard got fucked. You assholes are monsters.
The city needs $$ to waste.

Give the owner 2 months to reclaim the property; after that is goes into the abandoned pile and your suggestion helps to cover the costs.
 

Paul98

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So they made it legal to steal and destroy other peoples property? What fucking country am I living in?

Well I guess I should say they tried to make it legal to...
 

glenn1

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So they made it legal to steal and destroy other peoples property? What fucking country am I living in?
This one. Haven't you heard of Kelo vs. New London? If anything, taking some worthless shit from a homeless person and moving them to stop them from being a public nuisance is more defensible as supporting "economic development" than taking someone's house to give the land to Pfizer.
 

nehalem256

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So if you leave your car next to the sidewalk, the police can seize and destroy your car?
It would depend on local law, and on the specific street you left your car. There are many streets where if someone was dumb enough to park it there it would be towed away.
 

Jhhnn

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This one. Haven't you heard of Kelo vs. New London? If anything, taking some worthless shit from a homeless person and moving them to stop them from being a public nuisance is more defensible as supporting "economic development" than taking someone's house to give the land to Pfizer.
Duh-vert! Duh-vert!

Your post reeks of smug derision for those less fortunate than yourself.

No compensation has been offered to the homeless for the loss of their meager possessions, unlike Kelo vs New London.

Worthless shit? Not to the victims. Perhaps if the authorities confiscated your "documents, medications, family memorabilia, toiletries, cell phones, sleeping bags and blankets" you'd feel differently about it.
 
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