CISPA IS BACK!!! Obama to order it by EXECUTIVE ORDER TOMORROW.

[zanejohnson]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...issuing-executive-order-on-cybersecurity.html

this is big.


i thought it shold go here and not PN..

Moved from OT as the responses are mainly P&N.
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[Slew Foot]

So what exactly does it do?

 

[zanejohnson]

http://mashable.com/2013/02/11/cispa-reintroduced/

 

[bbhaag]

So what exactly does it do?

What it does is give more power to them and less power to us. All under the guise of more security.
This order will make America a safer place to raise your children.

 

[Bateluer]

Fvck.

 

[phucheneh]

"American businesses are under siege"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA





*gasp*




HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yet again the Internet is under attack by copyright extremism. It's sad the way things are going, but nothing we can do, they just have too much power. Best bet is we let them destroy the current internet while we start building a new network on top of the Internet. A network where there is no origin and no destination. Tracking a single IP will just reveal raw information that means nothing. Some kind of P2P grid. Think, a layer 3 network, on top of a Kazaa like network. Block an IP or computer or even an entire network, and everything just heals itself by replicating over other nodes. No single machine would hold a single full piece of information but a single piece of information would be replicated many times throughout the network.

Of course they'd probably just start tracking anyone who is part of this network and prosecute. When it comes to copyright they don't need any proof of anything. They can point at a random person on the street and arrest for copyright infringement if they really want to.

 

[zanejohnson]

Yet again the Internet is under attack by copyright extremism. It's sad the way things are going, but nothing we can do, they just have too much power. Best bet is we let them destroy the current internet while we start building a new network on top of the Internet. A network where there is no origin and no destination. Tracking a single IP will just reveal raw information that means nothing. Some kind of P2P grid. Think, a layer 3 network, on top of a Kazaa like network. Block an IP or computer or even an entire network, and everything just heals itself by replicating over other nodes. No single machine would hold a single full piece of information but a single piece of information would be replicated many times throughout the network.

Of course they'd probably just start tracking anyone who is part of this network and prosecute. When it comes to copyright they don't need any proof of anything. They can point at a random person on the street and arrest for copyright infringement if they really want to.

this is a tech forum, and with that in consideration, i say, this post cannot be deleted/altered/forced to change for anything at all.

this is correct, and is, the next technology that may or may not exist now, and will, be the way that technology progresses in the near future.

 

[ch33zw1z]

What it does is give more power to them and less power to us. All under the guise of more security.
This order will make America a safer place to raise your children.

Correct, just like the Patriot Act. Pathetic.

 

[Broheim]

"laaaaand of the freeeee... wait that was old america.."

please fight this 'murica, don't give the dirtbags down in the EU any funny ideas that I'd then have to deal with.

 

[waggy]

what the fuck..


wow.


edit" where are the people saying sopa/cispa would never see the light of day..executive order? oh man

 

[Vdubchaos]

You guys are acting like this is not already happening.

Government can request/access to EVERYTHING you have been doing on the internet....whenever they please.

best part is that they don't need any resources/or network to do so. Just a simple letter to Google or other Corporation will do the trick.

Same goes for phone companies/your phone calls.

Everything AND some is at their fingertips ALREADY.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Encrypt, encrypt, encrypt. I can't say it enough.

Yea, I know that there are ways to crack things like SSL and WDE, but when it's all said and done would you rather have completely open file systems and communications, or make them work for it after they knock down your door in the middle of the night because a copyrighted photo was viewed from your IP, on some website...it's coming.

 

[Brainonska511]

I see a lot of talk about copyright in this thread, but that article says nothing to that effect. It just says cybersecurity in light of recent hacking attacks. Someone want to point out what I'm missing?

 

[shortylickens]

So what yur saying is my congressman can now avoid the blame?

Gee, I'm so glad for them.

 

[SP33Demon]

Yet again the Internet is under attack by copyright extremism. It's sad the way things are going, but nothing we can do, they just have too much power. Best bet is we let them destroy the current internet while we start building a new network on top of the Internet. A network where there is no origin and no destination. Tracking a single IP will just reveal raw information that means nothing. Some kind of P2P grid. Think, a layer 3 network, on top of a Kazaa like network. Block an IP or computer or even an entire network, and everything just heals itself by replicating over other nodes. No single machine would hold a single full piece of information but a single piece of information would be replicated many times throughout the network.

Of course they'd probably just start tracking anyone who is part of this network and prosecute. When it comes to copyright they don't need any proof of anything. They can point at a random person on the street and arrest for copyright infringement if they really want to.

This is true, what's to stop a group of people from just creating a new P2P internet?

 

[xanis]

I see a lot of talk about copyright in this thread, but that article says nothing to that effect. It just says cybersecurity in light of recent hacking attacks. Someone want to point out what I'm missing?

I'm not sure where the copyright stuff is coming from, but I don't think that's what this is about. From what I understand, this is about the sharing of data between the government and private entities.

This, in particular:

3 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—
4 ‘‘(A) CYBERSECURITY PROVIDERS.—Not-
5 withstanding any other provision of law, a cy-
6 bersecurity provider, with the express consent
7 of a protected entity for which such cybersecu-
8 rity provider is providing goods or services for
9 cybersecurity purposes, may, for cybersecurity
10 purposes—
11 ‘‘(i) use cybersecurity systems to iden-
12 tify and obtain cyber threat information to
13 protect the rights and property of such
14 protected entity; and
15 ‘‘(ii) share such cyber threat informa-
16 tion with any other entity designated by
17 such protected entity, including, if specifi-
18 cally designated, the Federal Government.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Sad.. I like Obama but at the same time I see that he's one side of the same coin

 

[Farmer]

Why? I am sick of hearing about DHS and goddamn Janet Napolitano.

This is pure garbage. How can any private citizen support this?

 

[darkewaffle]

I haven't looked at it too hard but most of the articles indicate it's simply about information sharing between private and federal entities. Personally I don't care.

And actually the regulations being pursued by the European Union regarding cybersecurity in the Bloomberg article are extremely good ideas imo, both in terms of disclosure and increasing cybersecurity expectations and standards.

 

[Jodell88]

I'm not sure where the copyright stuff is coming from, but I don't think that's what this is about. From what I understand, this is about the sharing of data between the government and private entities.

This, in particular:

 

[olds]

Hell, they can kill american citizens with no charges, warrant, etc. This is the next logical step.

"Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves." D.H. Lawrence

 

[blackangst1]

False premise is false. This has NOTHING to do with CISPA. Geez people READ.

The executive order, expected to be released after Obama’s Feb. 12 State of the Union address, sets up a voluntary program of cybersecurity standards for companies operating vital U.S. infrastructure (emphasis mine)

The European Union announced its own cybersecurity plan yesterday, which could affect a wide swath of multinational companies that operate there.(emphasis mine)

Outrage not found.

 

[zanejohnson]

This is true, what's to stop a group of people from just creating a new P2P internet?

ever heard of tor?

 

[Farmer]

False premise is false. This has NOTHING to do with CISPA. Geez people READ.





[/B]Outrage not found.

Beep beep beep. So what the hell is this for anyway? More executive inaction?