Chrysler no longer in Bankruptcy

[Strk]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Patranus


Exactly.

The biggest problem is they are making cars that no one wants to buy.

The small car market (compact/subcompact) is only 15% total US car sales
SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31060544

Post the whole quote, dammit!

"The small car segment, including compact and subcompact vehicles, represents about 15 percent of all U.S. vehicle sales, and is extremely important to Chrysler?s future, said Michelle Krebs, editor of Edmunds.com?s AutoObserver.com Web site."


You try to make it sound like peanuts. :roll:


15% of the U.S. vehicle market is HUGE.

That's the problem with percentages. If you don't give actual figures, small percentages can make actual figures seem small. Even without a big rebound, 15% is still over a million cars. You also have a big switch to smaller vehicles now. All companies are bringing over smaller vehicles. Between increased demand for them and requirements to increase CAFE, you'll see more of them anyways.

 

[manowar821]

god dammit this is stupid

 

[dsity]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Patranus


Exactly.

The biggest problem is they are making cars that no one wants to buy.

The small car market (compact/subcompact) is only 15% total US car sales
SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31060544

Post the whole quote, dammit!

"The small car segment, including compact and subcompact vehicles, represents about 15 percent of all U.S. vehicle sales, and is extremely important to Chrysler?s future, said Michelle Krebs, editor of Edmunds.com?s AutoObserver.com Web site."


You try to make it sound like peanuts. :roll:


15% of the U.S. vehicle market is HUGE.

How did I misrepresent it?
I said EXACTLY what the article states the small car market is only 15% of total US car sales.

So, why would you leverage your companies future on 15% of the market when you are ignoring the other 85% of the market? NO ONE WANT TO BUY A SMALL CAR but now we have GM and Chrysler focusing their production on small cars. They are just building more car models people do not want to buy.

Oh, they burned through tens of billions of dollars of "bailout money" AND STILL WENT BANKRUPT so I guess buying them is good investment......

The article is saying small car market is the way to go and is very important for the survival of chry

 

[Pocatello]

GM has some nice cars coming, so there is some hope. Not sure about Chrysler, Fiat isn't known for building reliable cars, we'll see.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: Pocatello

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Patranus


Exactly.

The biggest problem is they are making cars that no one wants to buy.

The small car market (compact/subcompact) is only 15% total US car sales
SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31060544

Post the whole quote, dammit!

"The small car segment, including compact and subcompact vehicles, represents about 15 percent of all U.S. vehicle sales, and is extremely important to Chrysler?s future, said Michelle Krebs, editor of Edmunds.com?s AutoObserver.com Web site."


You try to make it sound like peanuts. :roll:


15% of the U.S. vehicle market is HUGE.

How did I misrepresent it?
I said EXACTLY what the article states the small car market is only 15% of total US car sales.

So, why would you leverage your companies future on 15% of the market when you are ignoring the other 85% of the market? NO ONE WANT TO BUY A SMALL CAR but now we have GM and Chrysler focusing their production on small cars. They are just building more car models people do not want to buy.

Oh, they burned through tens of billions of dollars of "bailout money" AND STILL WENT BANKRUPT so I guess buying them is good investment......

The article stated that Chrysler depended on sales of SUVs, trucks and van too much and not enough on small cars. Chrysler doesn't make many small cars, the Dodge Caliber hatchback is kind of small. Chrysler has nothing like the Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla, which are money makers. Chrysler mid-size sedans are the Sebring and the Dodge Avenger, which are average at best, there are better cars out there. Chrysler large cars like the 300C were well received, but need an upgrade to be competitive against the Hyundai Genesis. As the price of gas creeps toward $3/gal, I don't see too many people buy cars with big V-8.

You miss the point. No one wants to buy small cars. Some people might...15%...but what about the other 85% of people/companies?

You don't seem to understand that the THERE IS NO DEMAND. You can produce all the small/compact cars you want but people wont buy them. People don't buy them, tax payers keep pumping money into these "money pits" that are car companies.

 

[Pocatello]

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: Pocatello

Originally posted by: Patranus

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Patranus


Exactly.

The biggest problem is they are making cars that no one wants to buy.

The small car market (compact/subcompact) is only 15% total US car sales
SOURCE: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31060544

Post the whole quote, dammit!

"The small car segment, including compact and subcompact vehicles, represents about 15 percent of all U.S. vehicle sales, and is extremely important to Chrysler?s future, said Michelle Krebs, editor of Edmunds.com?s AutoObserver.com Web site."


You try to make it sound like peanuts. :roll:


15% of the U.S. vehicle market is HUGE.

How did I misrepresent it?
I said EXACTLY what the article states the small car market is only 15% of total US car sales.

So, why would you leverage your companies future on 15% of the market when you are ignoring the other 85% of the market? NO ONE WANT TO BUY A SMALL CAR but now we have GM and Chrysler focusing their production on small cars. They are just building more car models people do not want to buy.

Oh, they burned through tens of billions of dollars of "bailout money" AND STILL WENT BANKRUPT so I guess buying them is good investment......

The article stated that Chrysler depended on sales of SUVs, trucks and van too much and not enough on small cars. Chrysler doesn't make many small cars, the Dodge Caliber hatchback is kind of small. Chrysler has nothing like the Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla, which are money makers. Chrysler mid-size sedans are the Sebring and the Dodge Avenger, which are average at best, there are better cars out there. Chrysler large cars like the 300C were well received, but need an upgrade to be competitive against the Hyundai Genesis. As the price of gas creeps toward $3/gal, I don't see too many people buy cars with big V-8.

You miss the point. No one wants to buy small cars. Some people might...15%...but what about the other 85% of people/companies?

You don't seem to understand that the THERE IS NO DEMAND. You can produce all the small/compact cars you want but people wont buy them. People don't buy them, tax payers keep pumping money into these "money pits" that are car companies.

Chrysler is in its current situation not because it's making too many sub-compact cars that nobody wants to buy. I do see a lot of Chrysler Aspen SUVs and Chrysler Sebring sedans that nobody wants to buy.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Chrysler may not be bankrupt anymore, but I suspect that many former dealers will be soon. They really got the shaft in the deal. At least the GM dealers have some time to sell down their current inventory.

Couldn't they try and negotiate new (inevitably less favorable, but better than nothing) contracts with the "new" Chrysler?

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I worked at a Honda dealer in Orlando for a bit.

This explains so much.. ProfJohn the used car salesman.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Pocatello
New Chrysler same shitty cars, I'm sorry to say.

Yes...Chrysler has a lot more work to do to become a product people actually want. At least when GM exits out of bankruptcy they will have some seriously nice cars to peddle.

 

[techs]

The small car market in the US is going to get a lot bigger as people realize high gas prices are here to stay, and outsourcing means US salaries will go in the shitter.