Chrome Orb - thoughts?

[DarkMajiq]

I'd like to know what everyone's thoughts are about the Chrome Orb for an Athlon 900? I probably won't be overclocking it beyond 1 GHz if I do, but seeing as how right now I'm running a crappy little PII 233 O/Ced too 280 (laugh all you want ), even 900 is going to be great compared to this.

 

[clumsum]

Well,....................they look really cool, but there are more efficient hsf's readily available for the same price. You can't see the Orb anyway, as soon as you re-install the side panel, unless you are going for neon, plexi-glass, or just leaving the panel off all the time.
I was thinking of using one on a desk top pc that I'm upgrading, since they are relativly quiet,
and seem to distribute airflow equally in all directions, but they don't seem to fit on the Socket 7 cpu, too snug......?

 

[ledzepp98]

i had one on my 900 and it cooled fine. just make sure it works with your mobo...there are space issues with the abit and epox boards

 

[ctowle]

The newer super orb works better than the chrome orb. I noticed about a 4-5 temp drop when I switched.

 

[Supradude]

the Orb line is pretty cool for "budget" and "mid-clocking" solutions, but for a couple bucks more, the Gloabalwin and Alpha line of HSF's do a much better job... consider the Orb's only if...
1)price is an issue
2)noise is an issue
3)aesthetics are an issue

but if you want performance... go with the big guns!

 

[snow patrol]

Does anyone know the main differences between the Globalwin Fob32 and Fob38?

I heard that the FOB38 was faaaarrrr too loud - what about the 32?

 

[DarkMajiq]

Unfortunately, my options are morel imited by availability of products, not price, noise, etc... In Canada it's a bitch to get any of those other coolers, I just wanted to see what y'all thought of the Chrome Orb.

 

[StanFL]

It'll work fine. For best results remove the pink bubbly gum type compound on the bottom of the chrome orb and use some regular heatsink compound or artic silver paste. Depending on ambient temp, expect cpu temps to be in low 40's C with a full load on it.

 

[clumsum]

The only difference in the FOP32-1 and the FOP38 is the 38 has a higher rpm fan plus a chrome fan grill guard. The heat-sinks are identical otherwise.

 

[Rado45]

I have an tbird 900 and a chrome orb and I get 50 degrees celsius at full load (sometimes a little higher). I have applied thermal grease. It runs perfectly stable.

 

[Rado45]

Oh yeah, probe says MB temperature is around 30 degrees celsius.
I even installed an extra cooler for the case. I wonder why the temperature is so high. Any thoughts?

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Rado45,

What is your case cooling like? Also, don't believe c-orb reviews, they always under-read the temp for that heatsink. For example, the Anandtech review had the temp at 47c for the c-orb, when actual core temp would be at least 58C.


Mike

 

[Rado45]

sorry for the late reply :

My case cooling is standard (its a Aopen HQ08 300 watt PS case) but I added a extra ventilator at the front/bottom end of the case.
I think I'll get a FOP38 as the case is pretty far away from me and I don't think I'll mind the noise that much.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Rado,

Your temps are probably pretty close to core temp. If you can, I would suggest putting an exhaust fan up near the cpu.



Mike

 

[Rado45]

yeah I was thinking of doing that anyway, there's a nice empty spot for one...
Thx for your advice tho!

 

[nickburns]

i have used the chrome orb (duo462) before and i find that the only benefit is if you have a window mod cuz it looks cool, go with the alpha pal6035

 

[natedog]

HAHAHA, Mike strikes again! He sees someone talking about the chrome orb and automatically has to bash. And I don't believe BS comments like "Anandtech had it all read wrong. It was more like 10 degrees hotter."

The point is that chrome orb works 100x better than the crappy retail fan and heatsink. And NO, an extra 35-40 bucks for the BEST one is not worth a couple degrees. And don't bitch about stability, because that money you saved in buying the orb you probably could get the cpu above the one you were planning on.

Remember everyone, just because someone on this board says something....*cough*cough* MIKE *cough*.....check it out for yourself. Everyone's got a bias....even me. But at least I'll admit it.

Nathan

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Funny, hiding behind a hidden info and no shown e-mail or anything.

Anandtech and Tomshardware and any other site reviewing with socket-thermistors is flat out wrong.

Theoretical core temp for a heatsink rated at .52C/W(c-orb) versus a .37C/W(alpha pal6035) on a cpu producing 50W of heat cannot be 2C. Just using science, we get a temp difference of 9C. That isn't the 2C that anandtech shows, and certainly the c-orb is not capapble of keeping a cpu at reasonable temps after 1.0ghz overclocks.

What BS comments are you talking about. I have plenty of PROOF, Undeniable SCIENTIFIC PROOF on my webpage. DOn't believe me, go read it then. DOn't believe that, go read the Big thread on General Hardware about it. Don't believe it after that, then go wallow in your own "anandtech is god" ignorance.

And if you are calling the CEK733092 heatsink that comes with 900mhz and greater t-birds an inferior heatsink to the orb, then you are horribly mistaken.

And I do have a known bias. I am highly against websites posting false, inaccurate, unrelative information. And then I even more against it when they come up with bull$hit excuses like "i Did the test twice, so it has to be correct".


Mike
P.S. DO you work for THermaltake or something? I"m sorry if you do, cause you guys make some heatsinks that make socket-thermistors look good, but in actuality perform like crap.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

TO Everone else, I apologize for the post above. If you want more information as to why my claims are completely NOT BS, check the link in my thread. ON it is a page(THAT I MAKE NO MONEY ON) and it has a large amount of my knowledge of thermodynamics/socket-thermsitors/ and why the temps are inaccurate and results are compressed.


Mike

 

[Mikewarrior2]

And to further explain the temperature Compression "problem" for natedog, I have linked the 2 following pages for his reading pleasure.

Problem III: Temperatue Compression

and

Problem VII: COmpression Issues Revisited


Mike

 

[natedog]

Why the hell are you bitching about not listing my email? I'm right here.......

 

[natedog]

By the way, your page 7 link you listed, that points to a page 5, doesn't work......

And another question. Suppose every socket A ever tested was tested WRONG like you say. Aren't they all being tested wrong at the same degree of "wrongness?" I still fail to see how the chrome orb could be THAT drastically different from any other heatsink/fan as far as measuring temperature goes. And all that crap about the way it moves the air?? If the way it circulated the air DID affected the temperature of the thermistor, ie make it cooler, wouldn't this do the same to the core? I still think you're mostly full of it.........anyone agree? I think it's important that when someone on here does give out advice, like this guy, that newer people don't just take it as truth without researching it. We all agree it isn't the BEST heatsink/fan alive, but it isn't the piece of sh*t you make it out to be.

Natedog

 

[Mikewarrior2]

It points to the right page. Read it. NOt every mb misreads the same way, but it is very common for super-orbs and c-orbs to highly misread.

And the c-orb is junk. At 1.1ghz 1.85 volts you'd be lucky to have a c-orb equipped cpu running core temp wise, under 70C.


Mike

 

[Mikewarrior2]

Quite frankly, I do not care if you think i'm full of it. If you read through my page, I have backed up everything with cold-hard science.

Big websites clearly don't believe me, but its because it makes their reviews look like junk.



Mike
I also do not subscribe to the School of Thought that if A big website does it, it has to be correct. Just because anandtech and toms hardware do the same type of testing does not mean the testing isn't flawed. It does not mean that they are inacapable of problems

and to relink the compression page Socket Thermistor Compression. That should help clear up some of YOUR ignorance.

 

[natedog]

AHHAHAHA. Lucky to have it at 70 degrees?? You're on crack my friend. Thanks for fixing that link though. The blank page I was getting before wasn't very interesting, but then again neither is the page there now.

So how do you know what the REAL temperature of the cpu is? You have a little green man down there with a thermometor, or maybe you put your finger on it and ask the doctor how bad the burn is and temperature would cause it? Have you even bought a chrome orb? And you never even addressed my concerns about running them all the same way and just having differing degrees of "wrongness." Don't point me to your temperature compression stuff, tell me here. And just because you call it HARD SCIENCE doesn't make it so. I see a whole bunch of numbers just coming out of nowhere. I'm sorry if you really did research this, but you can't explain it worth crap. And having those sh*tting frames on the page don't make it any easier.

The only thing that MATTERS is real world performance. I don't give a rats ass about your "science," if it works for people, then awesome. Someone overclocks a 750 tbird to 1 gig using a chrome orb, doesn't have heat problems, and it's still a piece of crap? Could you explain that? Where is your science then? And don't post another freaking link, we've seen that crap advertised too many times already. Answer my damn questions!! Then again, maybe you can't..........hard to say something sucks when it works.

Natedog