Christmas decorations at work. UPDATE: Jesus won!

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  1. JulesMaximus

    JulesMaximus No Lifer

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    So, today the bats in my department went out and bought a fake Christmas tree and spent the entire afternoon decorating it but after lunch they were all in an uproar over the fact that we didn't have a Christmas tree in the lobby. The company bought a bunch of poinsettias, a huge wreath and decorated the lobby with that. Apparently, they want to be PC for non-Christian employees, vendors, and customers.

    Holy shit, you should have heard the outrage, "When I started working here they had a Christmas tree in the lobby and I was so happy to be working for a company that was Christian...blah blah blah."

    Anyone really give a * about this stuff? :rolleyes:

    UPDATE: Jesus won. There will be a Christmas tree in the lobby by the end of the day tomorrow.
     
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  2. deadlyapp

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    what kind of business.
     
  3. JulesMaximus

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    Manufacturing... semiconductor industry.
     
  4. Mixolydian

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    Who the * cares.
     
  5. Red Squirrel

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    I do find having Christmas decorations at work can be great, and up the atmosphere a bit. Playing the grinch just makes for a less enjoyable environment.

    You guys need to make a Christmas tree made with nothing but soldered together resistors, LEDs etc, that would be awesome, and very fitting of the company. :p Bonus points if each of those components are actually serving a purpose at making the tree work. (blinking lights, etc).

    A nativity set made with electronic components could be fun too. :D
     
  6. lupi

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    no, obviously no one does since so many in your work were talking about it.
     
  7. Leros

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    I don't really see what Christmas trees and the rest Christmas have to do with Christianity except for that fact they words are similar. Christmas is so secular these days.
     
  8. JulesMaximus

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    That would be kind of cool. But if they aren't going to spring for a $100 tree I doubt you'd get anyone behind a project that would take talented engineers away from the projects they're working on.
     
  9. Leros

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    Rumor is that if you enjoy your work environment, it makes you more productive.
     
  10. lxskllr

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    I see the re-education has failed. We'll have to send you on another "vacation" to correct your anarchistic thoughts.
     
  11. SparkyJJO

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    That would be awesome.

    I might have to do something like that next year :hmm:
     
  12. highland145

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    ...you had a fucking job and still do so STFU.
     
  13. olds

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    Yes, weirdos.
     
  14. her209

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    How does Christmas tree = Christian?
     
  15. edro

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    This country was built on a Christianity base.
    Sometimes you have to be the minority and suck it up.

    Holiday religious based decorations don't bother me.
     
  16. edro

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    Right. If they have a baby Jesus or Cross on the tree, that is a different story.
     
  17. her209

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    First Amendment. Read it.
     
  18. Number1

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    Some people have opinions you might not necessarily agree with.
    What a concept.

    Here is a shocker:

    I agree with your co workers (or bats as you call them).
    This overly politically correct crap is a bit much to take sometime.
     
  19. edro

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    I know, but 95% of the founding fathers were Christians.
    Even today, over 75% of the population are Christian.

    When such a large portion of people are Christian, the values and traditions are going to be part of the culture, regardless what Amendment #1 says.
     
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    http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

    But overall im agnostic athiest but traditional Christmas stuff im fine with. Doesnt bother me to see a tree or manger setup.
     
  21. Jimzz

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    You can keep repeating it, but it does not make it true in the the sense you are trying to push.



    Historian Gregg L. Frazer argues that the leading Founders (Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington) were neither Christians nor Deists, but rather supporters of a hybrid "theistic rationalism".


    "In recent decades Christian advocacy groups, prompted by motives that have been questioned by some, have felt a powerful urge to enlist the Founding Fathers in their respective congregations. But recovering the spiritual convictions of the Founders, in all their messy integrity, is not an easy task. Once again, diversity is the dominant pattern. Franklin and Jefferson were deists, Washington harbored a pantheistic sense of providential destiny, John Adams began a Congregationalist and ended a Unitarian, Hamilton was a lukewarm Anglican for most of his life but embraced a more actively Christian posture after his son died in a duel."

    http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2007/02/the-us-founding-fathers-their-religious-beliefs/


    "The early presidents and patriots were generally Deists or Unitarians, believing in some form of impersonal Providence but rejecting the divinity of Jesus and the absurdities of the Old and New testaments. "

    http://www.skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html
     
  22. preslove

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    Idiots who watch fox news.
     
  23. edro

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    There are varying degrees of "Christian". You don't have to be orthodox to be Christian.
    If you believe Jesus was "special", you are Christian.

    Religious affiliation evolves. Most, if not all, were probably raised Christian, but as they aged, their beliefs evolved.
    If they are quoted as saying something anti-Christian, that doesn't immediately change them to an athiest.

    Search Google for "founding father religion". You will find numerous pages similar to your examples but on the other side.
    http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

    Anyone can make a website arguing anything.
     
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    women
     
  25. Sixguns

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    Do people really get offended by Christmas trees? I dont understand all the need for "political correctness". I guess since Im still young its new to me but growing up I never heard of people getting crazy if you told the Merry Chirstmas instead of Happy Holiday.