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Christmas came early :)

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vi edit

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Got 3 X-CS LCR's from av123 for $99 a piece and a matching MFW-15 for $399. For $700 it's one freaking nice 3.1 setup. Have some dipoles coming in from The Speaker Company for $109. Will probably be picking up an XP-3 amp from Emotiva on sale later this weekend.

The home theatre that will be set up in the next home is coming along well. There's just been some insane deals floating around lately. Going to set these up later tonight and see just how much hype is real about the MFW-15. Hopefully I don't break the rental home I'm in. :awe:

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montypythizzle said:
A+ organization.
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Heh.

I'm in the process of building a home. Sold a 2800 sq/ft place with 2 storage sheds and a three stall garage. Currently renting a 1200 sq/ft place with no garage or storage shed.

Needless to say, storage and living space is at a premium.

D:
 
Yoxxy said:
Hopefully they sound a lot better than they look...
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Moho is a little polarizing. I love the looks and went out of my way to get it. It's a real wood veneer and guarantees that no two speakers are ever the same. I enjoy the character they provide over a basic black box.

I've only got about 5 hours of play time on them and even in that time they have really broke in. They have warmed up significantly. Can't wait to hear what they sound like after another 15-20 hours.

I also can't wait to get in my dedicated room with some actual sound treatments. 🙂
 
kalrith said:
I'm very jealous of your MFW-15 :drool;
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It's in dire need of better placement and room optimization to really appreciate yet. It sounds "ok" in some limited use, but I really need a better room and setup to truely unleash it.
 
Wow, the price has really come down on the MFW-15. Hopefully they've fixed their amp issues.

vi edit, I'd be interested in hearing about your new home theater. I recall a thread you had back in the old forums. Did it make it here?
 
Muadib said:
Wow, the price has really come down on the MFW-15. Hopefully they've fixed their amp issues.

vi edit, I'd be interested in hearing about your new home theater. I recall a thread you had back in the old forums. Did it make it here?
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I've had a drilling rig sitting on my lot for a week. It's done nothing but rain so they can't get in and dig my well. Once it dries out they can get that put in. Once the well is in, a septic goes in. Once that goes in the permit for the house goes through and they can dig the foundation and start putting a house in.

Assuming the rain finally goes away at some point...I'm hoping to be in the new place in April.

My builder does sort of a unique floor plan where he shifts a "column" of the house off half a floor. I'll have two dens in the back corner of the house that offset from the rest of the living space. They are spec'd out to be 13x16 each w/ 9' ceilings. The bottom den will sit halfway off the basement floor and halfwayabove the main floor and that's where the theatre will be. It won't be near any bedrooms and is a raised off the basement floor so it should be easier to get the subs to shake a bit.

I'd love another couple feet of room depth, but the costs of the overall house are already more than I wanted to spend. As it sits now, I'm probably looking at a single row of 4 seats (2 rows of 3 would have been ideal 🙁) and around a 100" screen. Colors will be a mellow gold for the side and back walls. Ceiling and screen wall will be flat black. Carpet will either be a black or chocolate color.

Given the space I have to work, I'm probably not going to mess around with a false wall. Plus I'm going to be doing so much other stuff (doing my own tile, hardwood install, painting, and brick/stone work) that I'll probably just slap the screen on the wall, hang the projector, stick the speakers on stands and toss a couch in and call it good. At least for a while. But I'll probably be so happy with that that I won't life a finger again for a while.

🙂
 
Christmas came today for me 😛

I ordered the SVS AS-EQ1 quite a while ago while it was on backorder. I ordered the Panasonic AE4000U earlier this week. Both came today.

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ooooooh....AE4000....nice! May I ask where and how much you ended up getting it for? That's the PJ at the top of my list (for now). Probably won't be buying for another 4 months, so who knows what prices will be at then.

And any reason you with with the SVS EQ for $700 over the Velodyne SMS for $350 or even a new receiver with the dual LFE's you were looking for?
 
vi edit said:
ooooooh....AE4000....nice! May I ask where and how much you ended up getting it for? That's the PJ at the top of my list (for now). Probably won't be buying for another 4 months, so who knows what prices will be at then.

And any reason you with with the SVS EQ for $700 over the Velodyne SMS for $350 or even a new receiver with the dual LFE's you were looking for?
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The AE4000U I got from Projector People for $1999 with free shipping.

It was an extremely hard choice between the Panasonic AE4000U and the Epson 8500UB. It seems that both are excellent choices. After seeing Art's first impressions of the Panasonic on ProjectorReviews, I felt comfortable that I wasn't giving up much in the image quality department going with the Panasonic instead of the Epson.

I've been using an AE900U for several years now and I've been pretty happy with it. There have been several things that have started to bug me about it as well as a few features I wanted to have.

One of those features was some kind of frame interpolation. I'm very sensitive to the choppiness / blurriness that goes on in films during medium speed pans. It bugs the heck our of me in the theater and with my old projector.

I really wanted something with a strong frame interpolation implementation. Panasonic's was the best last year, and this year it has been improved. Epson may have caught up, but I'm more confident with Panasonic's since they did a superior job last year.

I'm almost through my 2 hours of "free lamp time" with the AE4000U within which Projector People gives you in home demo time to decide if it's the right projector for yourself. I'm quite pleased with it.

I got the screen lined up nicely with the power zoom / focus and then dove straight into "The Thing" on Blu-ray. It's the only blu-ray I have at home at the moment, since I lent my others to my boss at work who has a Planar 8130 DLP.

A few months ago, when I was just starting my new projector search (now that I actually have a decent paying job), I was tempted to get the floor model Planar 8130 that a local place had for $3500 (the same place my boss got his).

I looked at it and it looked great, but the first medium speed pan I saw ruined it for me. I knew that the next projector I was going to get was going to have to do something about the stutter / blur during panning.

I was expecting the Panasonic to debut for at least $3000 and the new Epson to be at least $3500. I had set my early budget at $3000-$4000, which is why I was considering the 8130. I loved the black levels on it when I did the demo, and it was very sharp.

When Panasonic finally announced pricing at $1999, I knew the game had changed and that I was probably looking in the $1500-$2500 range instead. With the Epson coming out with a $2500-$200 MIR=$2300 price, things were looking great for people about to buy in this pricerange.

Now there are great options from $1000 up to $2300 (and of course up from there as well).

I read through all the AE4000U and 8500UB threads on AVSforum (which has threads for both in the "$3000+" and "under $3000" categories since it was assumed by many that both of them out be over $3000 (before pricing was announced).

Based on what I read there as well as all the initial impressions and semi-pro comparisons of the units, it seemed like the image quality was quite close between the two. The darker black levels from the 8500UB compared to the AE4000U being the main difference.

Now that I've had a couple hours to look at the AE4000U, I'm extremely happy with the black level as well as the frame interpolation options.

The black level on my AE900U was bad enough that either the AE4000U or the 85000UB were going to blow me away, so I'm happy with my choice.

Frame Creation mode 1 is great. I get no "soap opera" effect, and the stutter / blur of panning is much improved.

I think I linked this recently in another thread, but this describes the effect I hate:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/judder_24p.htm

Frame Creation mode 3 is rather creepy looking. I haven't tried any Pixar movies, but it might make an appearance there. Unfortunately, I'll have to mess with my A/V sync whenever I change the Frame Creation setting due to the lag induced. I knew this was going to be the case, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

With Frame Creation mode 3, panning is amazingly smooth and stutter-free. Unfortunately, everything else looks too smooth and almost like it's going in fast forward. It's a rather odd effect.

I'm not sure on Frame Creation mode 2 yet. I'm sure it will look great for animated films. Panning is a little bit better than in mode 1, but motion of everything else just looks a little odd. I'll have to make a personal call eventually whether it's worth the trade off to have better panning vs. a slightly unnatural look to motion. I assume that's something you get used to.

I also use the word "unnatural" to mean "not like watching a movie". It looks natural in the sense of being closer to motion in actual reality, but I'm not used to seeing it on the screen yet.

I'm glad I have these options. I'm very happy with mode 1 and might take it one step farther as I experiment later. It's nice to know that there is a technology out there that is improving over time and is directly addressing an annoying issue I've been bothered by for years.

As for the SVS question...

I drank the Audyssey Kool-Aid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmmDenKL4U0

I wanted to get independent Audyssey for each of my subs.

As you mentioned, that could have been accomplished with a new receiver instead.

I have an 876 now, which has Reon video processing (which is another reason I felt more confident getting the Panasonic over the Epson... since the Panasonic lacks the Reon video processing of the Epson... but since I have the 876, that's not an issue).
I got a very good deal on my 876 due to a few factors, so the SVS at $700 is actually more than I paid for the 876.

I did not research the new Onkyo lineup very well, but I believe I'd have to get the 3007 in order to get the combination of features I have in the 876 (including Reon HQV video processing) and add on the dual Audyssey corrected subs.

When I did my initial check for pricing, that was going to be more expensive in the end than just adding in the SVS unit to my 876 as it is now.

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Oh, one more thing...

Out of box color in Cinema 1 mode on this thing is better than I was able to get the AE900U after calibrating it to the best of my limited ability according to the test patterns on Digital Video Essentials.
I have the Blu-ray version of it on the way.
 
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Xmas came early for me too..I bought an open box Onkyo TX-NR5007 9.2 receiver...It's their flagship and latest receiver. This will replace my Rotel RSP-1066 processor. I hope this is an upgrade, I haven't bought a surround sound receiver in ages.
 
I believe the "after" is actually just Audyssey's prediction of what its filters are going to do vs. what reality is.

I just turned the first song on from my computer and things are now playing in the other room, so I'm going to check it out.

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Sounds good 😛

I've been running 1 sub for the past 3 months, so it's nice to have both going again.
 
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vi edit said:
I've had a drilling rig sitting on my lot for a week. It's done nothing but rain so they can't get in and dig my well. Once it dries out they can get that put in. Once the well is in, a septic goes in. Once that goes in the permit for the house goes through and they can dig the foundation and start putting a house in.

Assuming the rain finally goes away at some point...I'm hoping to be in the new place in April.

My builder does sort of a unique floor plan where he shifts a "column" of the house off half a floor. I'll have two dens in the back corner of the house that offset from the rest of the living space. They are spec'd out to be 13x16 each w/ 9' ceilings. The bottom den will sit halfway off the basement floor and halfwayabove the main floor and that's where the theatre will be. It won't be near any bedrooms and is a raised off the basement floor so it should be easier to get the subs to shake a bit.

I'd love another couple feet of room depth, but the costs of the overall house are already more than I wanted to spend. As it sits now, I'm probably looking at a single row of 4 seats (2 rows of 3 would have been ideal 🙁) and around a 100" screen. Colors will be a mellow gold for the side and back walls. Ceiling and screen wall will be flat black. Carpet will either be a black or chocolate color.

Given the space I have to work, I'm probably not going to mess around with a false wall. Plus I'm going to be doing so much other stuff (doing my own tile, hardwood install, painting, and brick/stone work) that I'll probably just slap the screen on the wall, hang the projector, stick the speakers on stands and toss a couch in and call it good. At least for a while. But I'll probably be so happy with that that I won't life a finger again for a while.

🙂
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Do you plan on having your builder run cables in the wall?
 
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