Christie hits "poor, elderly, schoolchildren,college students" hardest

[Tom]

"I love the heavy liberal bias in this article."

the person most quoted, and who's view is by far the most prominent, is Christie. How anyone can read this article and see bias is beyond comprehension.

The one person quoted on the other side is clearly identified as representing a "liberal-leaning" institution.

The story gives the reader information, and multiple viewpoints. How is is biased ?

 

[Red Dawn]

Starve to death? Do you know that in America, the poor are FATTER than the rich? They probably need the diet.

Well when you grow up and move out on your own and have to buy your own food you'll realize that Healthy Food is expensive. A Cut of Lean Beef or Pork, Fresh high fiber vegetables, Chicken Breasts etc cost a lot more than Fatty Cuts and starchy veggies. Hamburger Helper with high fat ground beef and Mac and Cheese will put the pounds on.

 

[Tom]

Ahem:



Now that we've cleared that misunderstanding up....



What exactly would you have him do? Did you ever consider that a "back to the basics" approach in education might actually be beneficial? My town built a high school 4 or 5 years ago and the total cost was $120 million. Was that really necessary to educate the kids?



Yeah, you're right, I want to hurt kids. To repeat:



About the poor -- why is it my responsibility to support them? I see no problem at all with cutting able-bodied people off the public payroll if they have already been on welfare for an unreasonable amount of time. Why is that a problem?

Here is the problem
1. able-bodied people without kids don't get welfare, so you can't save money by cutting money you aren't spending.
2. except food stamps. I'm all for getting rid of food stamps and all the other farm subsidies, which is what food stamps really is , for all your Indiana farmers.

btw, how does it benefit you ? When that high school got built, who got paid to build it ? Whatever business your in, I bet some of it ended up back in your pocket. Same thing with money poor people spend.

In fact all the money that gets recirculated benefits you. Only time it doesn't is when some rich person gets it and buys up Van goghs or sends it to Africa to spay green monkeys. Of course even that might benefit you somehow..

See you can keep your money and buy 10 xboxes and some of the moeny goes to Somolian warlords, or you can give some to a poor guy and he'll buy some JD and the money ends up in Tennessee.

 

[TheDoc9]

Well when you grow up and move out on your own and have to buy your own food you'll realize that Healthy Food is expensive. A Cut of Lean Beef or Pork, Fresh high fiber vegetables, Chicken Breasts etc cost a lot more than Fatty Cuts and starchy veggies. Hamburger Helper with high fat ground beef and Mac and Cheese will put the pounds on.

This is a crock a shit. They stick to mcdonalds and other fast food and you know it. And yes, they come through the grocery lines with pounds of ground beef, pallats of eggs, ect. No veggies. It's easy, and they already live a lazy lifestyle and this is just an extension of it.

I can make a healthy meal for $15 that includes fresh organic veggies, 2.6 lbs of beef chuck roast, potatoes. The roast can be subbed with chicken or pork, all adding to the same price. This will give a family of 4 potentially 2 meals or more.

Welfare money would be better spent on educating people how to be successful and have determination to change their lives.

 

[StageLeft]

Well when you grow up and move out on your own and have to buy your own food you'll realize that Healthy Food is expensive. A Cut of Lean Beef or Pork, Fresh high fiber vegetables, Chicken Breasts etc cost a lot more than Fatty Cuts and starchy veggies. Hamburger Helper with high fat ground beef and Mac and Cheese will put the pounds on.

Not as expensive as liqour. You can bet that sweet ass of yours that a lot of these impoverished, poorly eating fat poor still find some cash for the Colt 45.

 

[Red Dawn]

This is a crock a shit. They stick to mcdonalds and other fast food and you know it. And yes, they come through the grocery lines with pounds of ground beef, pallats of eggs, ect. No veggies. It's easy, and they already live a lazy lifestyle and this is just an extension of it.

I can make a healthy meal for $15 that includes fresh organic veggies, 2.6 lbs of beef chuck roast, potatoes. The roast can be subbed with chicken or pork, all adding to the same price. This will give a family of 4 potentially 2 meals or more.

Welfare money would be better spent on educating people how to be successful and have determination to change their lives.

Yeah they are no different than more affluent Middle Class Americans who also make poor dietary choices. Now I don't know about the average poor person buying pallets of eggs (which is actually healthy and not fattening) but
they do have to make their food budget stretch and they do so by buying less than optimum foods. Also your example of a good nutritious meal sounds heavy in fat and starch which as a steady diet will make a lot of people overweight.

I do agree with you that Welfare money could be put to better use as you suggest. I also believe that if there's no money things have to be cut back, unfortunately it's the poor and elderly that pay the price but what are you going to do?

 

[Red Dawn]

Not as expensive as liqour. You can bet that sweet ass of yours that a lot of these impoverished, poorly eating fat poor still find some cash for the Colt 45.

Is Colt 45 any less fattening than the Guinness you drink?

Now if they could afford the Glenlivet they might be better off

 

[IndyColtsFan]

btw, how does it benefit you ? When that high school got built, who got paid to build it ? Whatever business your in, I bet some of it ended up back in your pocket. Same thing with money poor people spend.

You would be quite wrong with that assumption.

In fact all the money that gets recirculated benefits you. Only time it doesn't is when some rich person gets it and buys up Van goghs or sends it to Africa to spay green monkeys. Of course even that might benefit you somehow..

And if these people had jobs rather than relying on the government to provide for them, they would likely earn more, spend more, and that recirculated money would benefit me to an even greater degree. Not to mention that my taxes would be lower (in theory; in reality, I know Congress would just use that money elsewhere).

The point here is that I have no responsibility to provide for others (except my family). I donated a significant amount to charity last year, but I did that out of the kindness of my heart -- not out of any sense of obligation. I have a huge problem with government using my tax money to pay for people who could be working but instead, decide not to work and in many cases, their whole contribution is having more and more kids at our expense.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Welfare money would be better spent on educating people how to be successful and have determination to change their lives.

This.

 

[MotF Bane]

Well, if NJ doesn't want him, I'd be happy to see him in MA.

 

[Red Dawn]

Well, if NJ doesn't want him, I'd be happy to see him in MA.

He'd make a great Alderman in Roxbury

 

[MotF Bane]

He'd make a great Alderman in Roxbury

I was more thinking as a replacement for the moron we have now.

 

[Ozoned]

New Jersey is still doomed though. Reading that their pensions will take almost 50% of budget and they're constitutionally protected tells me all I know with boomers coming on line and Corsine underfunded last few years playing hide the elephant. Soon they will be paying all their taxes to people who are living on Jersey Shore doing nothing and get nothing.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_johnbury/2010/03/why_new_jersey_is_doomed.html

Constitutionally protected does not mean that you can't tax them. I am sure that the poor and elderly, which likely out number the pensionee's, would support such a measure. Surely the pensionee's would help out the needy, wouldn't they?