Christians: Do you believe in the rapture?

[AFB]

if kerry wins the election the end of the world also known as the revolation (can't spell) will come sooner all cuz of the gays it's all there fault. if they weren't so proud of being gay then the end of the world will come later but they r n kerry supports them so it's his fault 2. man the end of the world is comming soon

which is a good thing cuz us christans will have a better after life but then it's way scary cuz it's the end of the world and watching the people we cared about dying and watching the world b distroyed .......way scary man

Is this a widely held belief or a false generalization? Most Christians I know haven't talked about it , but some have.

Note: This post isn't meant to offend anyone.

Edit: I changed avantar(sp?) and sig after making this thread, it has no relation to it.

 

[Platypus]

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[Chompman]

Originally posted by: amdfanboy


Note: This post isn't meant to offend anyone.

Anything you post offends us.

 

[brxndxn]

LOL@ you.. That quote would be a quote from a RIGHTWING nut.. there's nuts on both sides of the spectrum, though. You've got Michael Moore, we've got this guy. I don't support that statement and I don't believe most Republicans would either.

 

[KLin]

whoever posted that is not a christian.

 

[IEC]

amdfanboy

User Rating: 413968959
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My my that's a VERY high user rating

Edit: Whoa what the heck the OP changed the post. :|

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
LOL@ you.. That quote would be a quote from a RIGHTWING nut.. there's nuts on both sides of the spectrum, though. You've got Michael Moore, we've got this guy. I don't support that statement and I don't believe most Republicans would either.

That wasn't the question. I was just wondering if most Christians believe in it (Gay comment aside).

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: ariafrost
amdfanboy

User Rating: 413968959
No of votes: 112

My my that's a VERY high user rating

And no, not all Christians believe in rapture, I believe that is mainly a Baptist belief if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Viper GTS]

I was not aware that the rapture was a commonly disputed doctrinal point, the second coming of Christ & subsequent hell on earth is pretty central to Christian beliefs.

Whoever wrote that drivel you quoted in your first post is a whack job, but the rapture is pretty much core doctrine.

Viper GTS

 

[AreaCode707]

That quote it wacked, but yes I do. I disagree with the views that most evangelical Christians hold about the rapture and tribulation though, and my ideas about how things will happen don't at all parallel common popularly held belief in the Christian world right now.

 

[MichaelD]

Jesus is waiting for Kerry to get elected? How silly.

Jesus already knew that Bush would be re-elected. Jesus stocked up on 9mm, 12ga and .30-06 ammo at WalMart a month ago. Jesus was at the range, the day of the election, waiting for it to open. Jesus already had his 12 pack of Budweiser chilling in the cooler in the back of his Ford F350 pickup truck. Jesus knew; apparently, you did NOT.

Jesus says "AMDfanboy, you are SO out of touch with reality."

 

[Rage187]

yep

 

[shimsham]

i love blondie.

 

[knivox]

I don't believe in the rapture, but then again I'm a seventh day adventist.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: knivox
I don't believe in the rapture, but then again I'm a seventh day adventist.

Didn't God chill out on the Seventh Day? As in "I'm really tired b/c I built all this stuff already...nobody better bug me!!"

So, why are you bothering God on his day off? You like getting hit in the eye w/lightning bolts, don't you?

 

[DAGTA]

Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

 

[glen]

The most widely accepted definition of Christianity is acceptance of the Nicene Creed, which addresses the most important beliefs. I have highlighted what it says about the ?rapture.? When discussing the issue there are a lot of different teaching about the issue. How do we decide who is correct? We have to see if what they say is in accordance with what the Church Fathers said. What some one on TV or some Charismatic Pastor interprets the Bible to mean is not as authoritative as what St. Augustine said it means. But, even before we get to that, we can simply read the Creed:

I believe in one God,
the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
and of all things visible and invisible;

And in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the only?begotten Son of God,
begotten of his Father before all worlds,
God of God, Light of Light,
very God of very God,
begotten, not made,
being of one substance with the Father;
by whom all things were made;
who for us men and for our salvation
came down from heaven,
and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary,
and was made man;
and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered and was buried;
and the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures,
and ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of the Father;
and he shall come again, with glory,
to judge both the quick and the dead;
whose kingdom shall have no end.
And I believe in the Holy Ghost the Lord, and Giver of Life,
who proceedeth from the Father and the Son;
who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped
and glorified;
who spake by the Prophets.
And I believe one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church;
I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins;
and I look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.


The Catholic and Protestant reformer agree with Augustine generally on this issue. They say we don?t know specifically what happens and to get too specific about it is a false teaching. Millinialism has been declared a false teaching since 431. So much for what they don?t believe, as that could fill volumes. With respect to the rapture, Catholics certainly believe that the event of our gathering together to be with Christ will take place, which is literally what the word means: to be wrapt up in (Christ) upon Christ?s return.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

Which can only occur after The Great Validation. Which can only occur after The Great Implication. Which can only occur after.... :roll:

Christianity; completely dependent upon a book written by 1,000 MEN over a 1,000-year period. IOW, complete FICTION.

Please don't bore me w/the trumped-up mathematicaly equations that "prove" the bible is real and Jesus wrote it.

If you try hard enough and give it enough thought, you can mathematically prove that bellybutton lint is the active chemical in a nuclear reaction.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

Which can only occur after The Great Validation. Which can only occur after The Great Implication. Which can only occur after.... :roll:

Christianity; completely dependent upon a book written by 1,000 MEN over a 1,000-year period. IOW, complete FICTION.

Please don't bore me w/the trumped-up mathematicaly equations that "prove" the bible is real and Jesus wrote it.

If you try hard enough and give it enough thought, you can mathematically prove that bellybutton lint is the active chemical in a nuclear reaction.

Why did you bother coming into this thread? No one wants to read your bashing, nor your ignorance. If you intend to bash a book, try actually reading it first so you at least know what you are talking about.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

Which can only occur after The Great Validation. Which can only occur after The Great Implication. Which can only occur after.... :roll:

Christianity; completely dependent upon a book written by 1,000 MEN over a 1,000-year period. IOW, complete FICTION.

Please don't bore me w/the trumped-up mathematicaly equations that "prove" the bible is real and Jesus wrote it.

If you try hard enough and give it enough thought, you can mathematically prove that bellybutton lint is the active chemical in a nuclear reaction.

Why did you bother coming into this thread? No one wants to read your bashing, nor your ignorance. If you intend to bash a book, try actually reading it first so you at least know what you are talking about.

FYI, "The Book" was shoved down my throat for 13 years. Old, New and Otherwise Testaments. I used to know it inside and out. I've intentionally forgotten it all, b/c it's all a load of BS. I make my own decisions based on the real world and what works here. NOT what was allegedly written 1,000 years ago to tell me what will work for me in the afterlife. Thanks for making a brilliant suggestion, though.

 

[glen]

In reference to MichaelD, converting someone is beyond the scope of this thread. However, even if you think the Bible is completely made up, you can still answer they question just like we all did regarding points made in fictional books we read in high school English. And our Authority on the "made up" work is still the early church Fathers who gave us the Canon. We know what they said the Bible says, even if we don't believe the Bible is divinely inspired.

 

[db]

People have been saying the end is near for a *really* long time now.
And "nobody will know" when the end will happen.
So if they are saying it will happen on/around a specific date, it won't.

WHY do we judge a *whole group* just b/c a few of them say or do weird stuff?

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

Which can only occur after The Great Validation. Which can only occur after The Great Implication. Which can only occur after.... :roll:

Christianity; completely dependent upon a book written by 1,000 MEN over a 1,000-year period. IOW, complete FICTION.

Please don't bore me w/the trumped-up mathematicaly equations that "prove" the bible is real and Jesus wrote it.

If you try hard enough and give it enough thought, you can mathematically prove that bellybutton lint is the active chemical in a nuclear reaction.

Why did you bother coming into this thread? No one wants to read your bashing, nor your ignorance. If you intend to bash a book, try actually reading it first so you at least know what you are talking about.

FYI, "The Book" was shoved down my throat for 13 years. Old, New and Otherwise Testaments. I used to know it inside and out. I've intentionally forgotten it all, b/c it's all a load of BS. I make my own decisions based on the real world and what works here. NOT what was allegedly written 1,000 years ago to tell me what will work for me in the afterlife. Thanks for making a brilliant suggestion, though.

Obviously you've forgotten it then because you're clearly talking out your ass. Did you think anyone in this thread wanted your opinion? So you dont' like the Bible. So you have a grudge against your creator because mommy and daddy made you go to catholic school where nuns beat you with a ruler. Guess what? NO ONE CARES. This thread was a question directed at Christians (hence the title), not angst-filled atheists.

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: db
WHY do we judge a *whole group* just b/c a few of them say or do weird stuff?

Because the ones on TV with perfect teeth and bad hair wearing cheap suits are so obnoxious and weird.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Only God knows when the end of this generation will occur. Politics are not going to change that date. Gay rights are not going to change that date.

I've read through the Book of Revelation a few times. It's very vague and symbolic. My understanding is that the Rapture is real, but will not occur until after the great tribulation.

Which can only occur after The Great Validation. Which can only occur after The Great Implication. Which can only occur after.... :roll:

Christianity; completely dependent upon a book written by 1,000 MEN over a 1,000-year period. IOW, complete FICTION.

Please don't bore me w/the trumped-up mathematicaly equations that "prove" the bible is real and Jesus wrote it.

If you try hard enough and give it enough thought, you can mathematically prove that bellybutton lint is the active chemical in a nuclear reaction.

Why did you bother coming into this thread? No one wants to read your bashing, nor your ignorance. If you intend to bash a book, try actually reading it first so you at least know what you are talking about.

FYI, "The Book" was shoved down my throat for 13 years. Old, New and Otherwise Testaments. I used to know it inside and out. I've intentionally forgotten it all, b/c it's all a load of BS. I make my own decisions based on the real world and what works here. NOT what was allegedly written 1,000 years ago to tell me what will work for me in the afterlife. Thanks for making a brilliant suggestion, though.

You whine too much.

I was raised in an extremely strict religious family, & you don't see me crying about how the Bible was shoved down my throat.

IOW, quit thread-trashing.



Back to the OP's question, i believe most Christians believe in the Rapture, but as with most things in the Bible, everyone has a different interpretation of it.