Christian groups: Intolerant?

NikPreviousAcct

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Well, each "Christian group" is different. I know of several groups personally that are more accepting than the general public. :disgust: :frown:

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Thanatopsis

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Yes, especially when those people are wrong. ;)


Of course Christians aren't going to be free-wheeling hippies like everyone expects them to be. They have this certain thing called "morals." For you "I'm tolerant of everyone" nuts, perhaps you should be more tolerant of Christians.


BTW, the other replies in this thread will either agree with this statement or say, "Yeah, Christians are a bunch of hypocritical losers."
 

zsouthboy

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Originally posted by: Thanatopsis
Yes, especially when those people are wrong. ;)


Of course Christians aren't going to be free-wheeling hippies like everyone expects them to be. They have this certain thing called "morals." For you "I'm tolerant of everyone" nuts, perhaps you should be more tolerant of Christians.


BTW, the other replies in this thread will either agree with this statement or say, "Yeah, Christians are a bunch of hypocritical losers."


Wow, way to prove your own statement. I am intolerant of people like you who think everyone who is not a christian have no "morals" as you quote. We just don't have a big happy book to tell us all the answers to lifes problems, remember?

zs

EDIT: it's like 10:30 so I'm going to bed, direct any flames into a PM to me :D
 

DigDug

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Anyone who believes in the absolute "correctness" of their religion, especially one so incredibly far-fetched, is bound to spew condemnation of others.

 

HiveMaster

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Christian groups are not intolerant. There are intolerant Christians. Just like there are intolerant Budhists, Catholics, Episcopalians, whatever.

Why pick on Christians?
 

DielsAlder

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Originally posted by: HiveMaster
Christian groups are not intolerant. There are intolerant Christians. Just like there are intolerant Budhists, Catholics, Episcopalians, whatever.

Why pick on Christians?

Because the Budhists are not the ones knocking at my door, telling me how to live me life.

 

bsobel

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Because the Budhists are not the ones knocking at my door, telling me how to live me life.

Well to be fair, it's *usually* not the Christian's either. Usually it's one of two well known cults that try to act as if they are indeed offshoots of Christianity...
Bill


 

PlatinumGold

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Wow, way to prove your own statement. I am intolerant of people like you who think everyone who is not a christian have no "morals" as you quote. We just don't have a big happy book to tell us all the answers to lifes problems, remember?

the classic connundrum of liberals. should one be tolerant of intolerance?
 

DielsAlder

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Wow, way to prove your own statement. I am intolerant of people like you who think everyone who is not a christian have no "morals" as you quote. We just don't have a big happy book to tell us all the answers to lifes problems, remember?

the classic connundrum of liberals. should one be tolerant of intolerance?

The classical connundrum of ignorance, big generalizations and wannabe pithy statements.

 

PlatinumGold

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Because the Budhists are not the ones knocking at my door, telling me how to live me life.

have you ever lived in a budhist country? how do you know that they don't proselytize?

have you ever lived in a muslim country? well, we know they like to proselytize.
 

Smaulz

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alright dammit... I'm gettin' WAY tired of this crap... how badly would I get flamed if I made a comment like, "all blacks are lazy welfare thieves", or "all canadians are ignorant hockey freaks", (sorry, it's the best I could come up with) How the heck can you people think it's okay to generalize all Christians?? And for the ones that are gonna pop up and say something stupid like, "it's totally different, you don't have a choice to be black, or to be from canada," or what the hell ever, being a Christian is as much a part of you as your skin color. And for someone that has accepted Christ, there IS no other choice, much like your nationality. It's about time the tolerance freaks paid attention to the crap they're spewing. Try it once.
 

xirtam

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Every math teacher I've ever had has been generally intolerant of my notions that they have deemed incorrect by their own system of fabricated rules. The question isn't whether or not they're intolerant, the question is whether or not they're right. For if they're right, then everyone else is wrong. Whence enters tolerance?

Don't confuse tolerance with love. People can have love for you and still think you're wrong. Tolerance is granted to ideas, love to people. If an idea such as Christianity is right, then every contradictory idea will be wrong and should be tolerated only long enough to squelch it. But that doesn't mean we should turn the idea battle into an ad hominem battle. So...

Yes. Christian groups are intolerant. John 14:6. Christianity is an exclusive religion. Now, the questions are... is intolerance inherently bad, what criteria do you use to determine that, and is Christianity true? (Rather than attacking Christian groups, why not try attacking ideas...?)
 

DielsAlder

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Originally posted by: Smaulz
alright dammit... I'm gettin' WAY tired of this crap... how badly would I get flamed if I made a comment like, "all blacks are lazy welfare thieves", or "all canadians are ignorant hockey freaks", (sorry, it's the best I could come up with) How the heck can you people think it's okay to generalize all Christians?? And for the ones that are gonna pop up and say something stupid like, "it's totally different, you don't have a choice to be black, or to be from canada," or what the hell ever, being a Christian is as much a part of you as your skin color. And for someone that has accepted Christ, there IS no other choice, much like your nationality. It's about time the tolerance freaks paid attention to the crap they're spewing. Try it once.

The big question Mr./Ms Smaulz does not lie in generalizing Christians, it is rather addressing what many Christians do and say, and what their religious texts support. Lets examine the relevence:
1.) We have a president that well deny federal funding for research that has the potential for live saving cures because he believes "it's not what God wants" (stem-cells).
2.) We have pastors giving hateful sermons that are anti-non-christian to thousands followers.
3.) We have science education being denied to secondary school students because "it's not consistent with the Bible" (teaching of evolution).
4.)Christian groups is persucuted people (homosexuals, atheists..,etc) simply because they believe or act a certain way.

These points are not generalizations, they are realities that exist in American society that are supported by facts. They cannot be simply ignored. And if you're "way tired of this crap," because perhaps you feel that people are bashing Christians, then I think you should ask yourself a question. Question: why is there all this crap being spewed? Maybe it's because I'm not the one doing the spewing. Futhermore, if your beliefs are that important to you, why don't you justify how the 4 things I mentioned make American society better, more fair, and less contentious. You see, as with the beginning of this thread, I pointed to specific reference, not an overgeneralization, and just asked a question. A question that obviously you cannot answer.
 

FrontlineWarrior

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If you feel strongly about something, it is inconsistent to believe something and be tolerant of other viewpoints. For example, if you believe killing babies for sport is wrong, it is inconsistent for you to be tolerant of those who think killing babies for sport is fine.

Tolerance implies lack of conviction or inconsistency. Religious believers tend to believe strongly in their views. Thus it should come as no surprise that they are intolerant of contrasting viewpoints. It is the rational thing to do, given their beliefs.
 

Ameesh

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in my personal experience they are mostly intolerant and condescending, and from what i've read in the bible, people who dont accept christ as the their lord and savior are going to "perish in hell" for their "wicked ways". The dogma is obvious and unambigious and not really open to interpertation. It seems to me that any christian who puts stock in the bible either activly asserts his/her faith by telling people they are going to hell or they do it passivly by privately thinking it (which inturn changes their opinion of the person soley on the fact that they don't believe in jesus).

it doesnt seem right to me but who am i to tell other people how to think and act, its their life, their ideas, i just dont appreciate it being shoved in my face with the anger, hatred, or pity that it comes with.
 

Piano Man

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Christians intolerant? It can't be. Of course you can add a lot of religions to that list.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Piano Man
Christians intolerant? It can't be. Of course you can add a lot of religions to that list.

From the webpage given above, I'd say that Pat Robertson is a pretty intolerant kind of guy.
 

Mrburns2007

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Christians aren't intolerant at all.

They teach right from wrong according to there beliefs, it is wrong to commit acts of homosexuality. If you want to be homosexual then you can still do it, It is a free country and nobody is going to stop you. The christians will continue teaching right from wrong and will tolerate you living in the country and won't come and raid your house or something.