christ i hate favoritism. judge delays punishment until after football season

[Nocturnal]

Let's just hope the civil case will turn out a tad bit better for the victims and their families.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Originally posted by: mugs
It's really sad that adults get so into high school football.

Yeah the kids are still going to serve their sentence, but the judge gave them preferential treatment beacuse they're football players, and I think that's wrong.

No, we are just being "pedantic"...

You're the one that came in here and started taking shots at some of the users here at ATOT. Why are you suprised when someone responds to that?

God forbid someone actually makes a logical counter-argument to your statements.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Let's just hope the civil case will turn out a tad bit better for the victims and their families.

god i hope so. one of the kids life is going to be very bad. with a broken neck and brain damage.

from another article


Roby nearly lost his right leg in the crash, and is facing his 11th surgery in the next few weeks, his mother said yesterday.

Robert Roby?s passenger, 17-year-old Dustin Zachariah, was on life support for several days and had broken bones, two collapsed lungs and brain damage. He now has the cognitive ability of a sixth-grader, his mother, Kathy Piper, said.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Let's just hope the civil case will turn out a tad bit better for the victims and their families.

god i hope so. one of the kids life is going to be very bad. with a broken neck and brain damage.

from another article


Roby nearly lost his right leg in the crash, and is facing his 11th surgery in the next few weeks, his mother said yesterday.

Robert Roby?s passenger, 17-year-old Dustin Zachariah, was on life support for several days and had broken bones, two collapsed lungs and brain damage. He now has the cognitive ability of a sixth-grader, his mother, Kathy Piper, said.

The kids deserve everything that's coming to them in a civil suit.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: minendo
One way or another they'll do their time. Big fvckign deal whether it is before or after football season.

This is so asinine. Gee, I wonder if John Mark Karr will be able to put off his life sentence a few months to take that vacation he's always wanted to take. I mean, he'll do the time eventually, right?

Those kids need to be punished, and punished NOW. A good punishment? Time served PLUS no more high school football. Maybe that will actually teach those jackass kids a lesson. Also, the judge should be kicked out of his position and should never be allowed in a courtroom again.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: minendo
One way or another they'll do their time. Big fvckign deal whether it is before or after football season.

This is so asinine. Gee, I wonder if John Mark Karr will be able to put off his life sentence a few months to take that vacation he's always wanted to take. I mean, he'll do the time eventually, right?

Those kids need to be punished, and punished NOW. A good punishment? Time served PLUS no more high school football. Maybe that will actually teach those jackass kids a lesson. Also, the judge should be kicked out of his position and should never be allowed in a courtroom again.

I take it you are a saint and have never once pulled a prank? All the best to you.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Come on people, obviously a major majority did not play football in highschool, so that's why the backlash.

Stop bringing up stupid things (Karr murdered someone FFS, not a prank).

Yes the kids fvcked up and the judge made a stupid descision, but that is how it is in big football towns.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: DaiShan

These are unique circumstances. I would hope that the judge would defer punishment for other students as well. They need to serve their time, but missing 60 days of school will put someone on a fast track to loser-ville.

You (unintentionally) raised an interesting point here... their punishment was not defered until next summer, it was defered until after football season. They will still be missing two months of school. But hey, at least they don't have to miss football season! That right there should be proof enough that the judge's focus was on football and not what is best for these kids.

This is not about vengeance, this is about fairness. It was just a prank gone bad, but the prank had unintended consequences. One of those unintended consequences was that two guys were seriously injured. One of those unintended consequences is that these kids will have to spend 60 days in a juvenile detention center. But missing football? Oh that's too much.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Come on people, obviously a major majority did not play football in highschool, so that's why the backlash.

Stop bringing up stupid things (Karr murdered someone FFS, not a prank).

Yes the kids fvcked up and the judge made a stupid descision, but that is how it is in big football towns.

actually i played football in high school. also was on baseball team, wrestling team (x4 varsity) and think that sports are a very important part of someones life.

the reason for the backlash (at least for me) is one kid has brain damage another nearly lost a leg. and the judge allows these kids to pospone punishment until football season is over. i think that is wrong.

edit: also where is the school on t his? when i was in school if you got convicted of anything (besides basic traffic ticket etc) you were kicked off the team.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

They should be kicked off the team, thus solving the problem.

Simple solution and if the coach had any balls that's what he would do.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: LordSegan
They should be kicked off the team, thus solving the problem.

Simple solution and if the coach had any balls that's what he would do.

A stunt like this would've gotten our asses kicked off, that's for sure.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: LordSegan
They should be kicked off the team, thus solving the problem.

Simple solution and if the coach had any balls that's what he would do.

A stunt like this would've gotten our asses kicked off, that's for sure.

yeah it would have when i was in school. but i guess it does not bother the school at all.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: LordSegan
They should be kicked off the team, thus solving the problem.

Simple solution and if the coach had any balls that's what he would do.

A stunt like this would've gotten our asses kicked off, that's for sure.

Good point, problem solved.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: LordSegan
They should be kicked off the team, thus solving the problem.

Simple solution and if the coach had any balls that's what he would do.

A stunt like this would've gotten our asses kicked off, that's for sure.

yeah it would have when i was in school. but i guess it does not bother the school at all.

That's something that actually concerns me more than anything; that the school is doing nothing.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: DaiShan

These are unique circumstances. I would hope that the judge would defer punishment for other students as well. They need to serve their time, but missing 60 days of school will put someone on a fast track to loser-ville.

You (unintentionally) raised an interesting point here... their punishment was not defered until next summer, it was defered until after football season. They will still be missing two months of school. But hey, at least they don't have to miss football season! That right there should be proof enough that the judge's focus was on football and not what is best for these kids.

This is not about vengeance, this is about fairness. It was just a prank gone bad, but the prank had unintended consequences. One of those unintended consequences was that two guys were seriously injured. One of those unintended consequences is that these kids will have to spend 60 days in a juvenile detention center. But missing football? Oh that's too much.

They don't miss school. They are legally required to go to school in juv. detention.

 

[waggy]

During their hearings, Campbell and Howard apologized. Campbell, who had two previous juvenile court convictions, showed no emotion and looked only at the judge


so not only did one of the bastards have a record but didnt care? yeah good idea letting the little creep get off easy.

 

[LanceM]

I'm definitely sending this to everyone in my address book. Hope the little jerks get eaten alive in civil.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: MrPickins

Originally posted by: Lonyo
They were on drugs too?

"I've never seen anything that has been so much an issue in the community," said Arch Rodgers, principal of 670-student Kenton High School. "The worst part is this has drug out so long and the longer it drug out, the more it created friction in the community."

Stuff it, who the hell writes for CNN, and did they ever get taught English at school?

The quotation marks means it's a quote. Evidently the Principal of Kenton HS needs to sit in on a few english classes with ya.


I personally don't see how anyone can argue in the judges favor. The boys had to know they were breaking the law in blocking a highway, knew it was gonna cause "a commotion." Whether or not they intended to hurt anyone is irrelevant. They knowingly broke the law. That means go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, and most definitely do not finish the season of football.

One of my dad's favorite phrases is "If your gonna do the crime, you gotta be willing to do the time." Hopefully they think about that next time they plan their "stunts."


Edit: Doesn't this fly right in the face of many school's "no pass no play" policies?

"I got a 69 and can't play , but billy commited a crime that caused brain injury, and he's starting?"

QFT

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: LanceM
I'm definitely sending this to everyone in my address book. Hope the little jerks get eaten alive in civil.

oh i think they will be. but realisticly not much the family will get. i doubt either of these kids are going to make a lot of money. one already has a record going.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: waggy
All it is doing is sending a message to other people that the football players are special and the law will make special time for them.

It is only sending that message to people that don't have the balls to play football or were not good enough to make the team.

The judge realizes that although the boys made a stupid mistake the chances of someone getting seriously hurt were low and they were unlucky to have caused such a bad accident.

No reason to ruin their lives over a stupid prank. Everyone has done something that could have resulted in serious physical harm to someone else. The kids will do their time and that is that.

so no reason to ruin their lives. yes lets ignore the fact that they have caused permanant brain injury to someone over this prank.

It was a one in a million if not more chance that this critical accident happened. If it were more serious they would have gotten more jail time, but hell their prank only resulted in 60 days. That is 2 months and they will probably be out in less than 30 days with good behavior.

I'm really not sure where you pulled those numbers from, but I hope you wiped afterwards because those numbers are pure ******.

 

[Anghang]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Let's just hope the civil case will turn out a tad bit better for the victims and their families.

:thumbsup: