Chris Matthews again challenges Olbermann

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http://www.realclearpolitics.c...sotomayor_hearing.html


"I'm getting one of those thrills I get about America," Chris Matthews said. "I'm sorry, I shouldn't say this and I'm getting it again," he said. Matthews concluded he got the "thrill" after Sotomayor "talked about sitting at that table and not being a genius like Barack Obama."





Really....didn't you learn anything last time by turning in your journalism card to play partisan stooge and getting kicked out of the anchor spot. Freedom of the press only has a value when it attempts to operate as a separate entity; this being the poster child for what not to do.
 

Craig234

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Non-issue. Your picking this to condemn the media for is like postin gagainst Nazis for trampling flowers with their tanks.
 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Non-issue. Your picking this to condemn the media for is like postin gagainst Nazis for trampling flowers with their tanks.

Damn, second post and already have to mention Nazis.

 

0marTheZealot

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Non-issue. Your picking this to condemn the media for is like postin gagainst Nazis for trampling flowers with their tanks.

The Nazis were environmentally conscious.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: RedChief
Originally posted by: Craig234
Non-issue. Your picking this to condemn the media for is like postin gagainst Nazis for trampling flowers with their tanks.

Damn, second post and already have to mention Nazis.

Ya, get to see the knee-jerk reaction they get by people who ignore the analogy being made.

So, when I can use any trivial, arguable 'offense' by a group who did massive wrong for an analogy... why not use Nazis?

Then it's a chance to educate one more person that Godwin's law is about comparing anything you're against to Nazis gratuitously - not merely using them as an analogy.

So, if I said, "you're as bad as the Nazis for attacking Keith Olbermann", that'd be a problem.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: RedChief
Originally posted by: Craig234
Non-issue. Your picking this to condemn the media for is like postin gagainst Nazis for trampling flowers with their tanks.

Damn, second post and already have to mention Nazis.

All things being equal when someone drops the Nazi word whatever side does it probably isn't on the side of the facts that is why they stoop to that level.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?

Whoosh... That was my point going over your head. I'll spell it out...

And LOL @ the 'libs run everything else' comment. Typical. Maybe if you guys repeat it enough it will be true?
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?

Whoosh... That was my point going over your head. I'll spell it out...

And LOL @ the 'libs run everything else' comment. Typical. Maybe if you guys repeat it enough it will be true?

Tell me one other MAJOR TV news outlet that is right leaning?

MSNBC watercarriers, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,HNN... WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE US?

cartoon network? Please enlighten us? :)
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?

Whoosh... That was my point going over your head. I'll spell it out...

And LOL @ the 'libs run everything else' comment. Typical. Maybe if you guys repeat it enough it will be true?

Tell me one other MAJOR TV news outlet that is right leaning?

MSNBC watercarriers, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,HNN... WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE US?

cartoon network? Please enlighten us? :)

NBC has countless right-wing examples, ABC has frequently been rihgt-wing - Brit Hume, airing the right-wing 'the path to 9/11' film that blamed Clinton for 9/11, refusing moveon.org ads and much more; CBS has a mixed record; MSNBC cancelled the top-rated Phil Donahue show simply for not wanting any 'liberal' show on when the Iraq war started, after forcing it to have two pro-war guests on for every anti-war guest, and it gave Tucker Carlson a show for example, though it's now balanced by other shows.

If you could be bothered to read a book on the topic such as "What liberal media?", you would see long, detailed lists analyzing the issue and giving you your evidence.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?

Whoosh... That was my point going over your head. I'll spell it out...

And LOL @ the 'libs run everything else' comment. Typical. Maybe if you guys repeat it enough it will be true?

Tell me one other MAJOR TV news outlet that is right leaning?

MSNBC watercarriers, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,HNN... WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE US?

cartoon network? Please enlighten us? :)

NBC has countless right-wing examples, ABC has frequently been rihgt-wing - Brit Hume, airing the right-wing 'the path to 9/11' film that blamed Clinton for 9/11, refusing moveon.org ads and much more; CBS has a mixed record; MSNBC cancelled the top-rated Phil Donahue show simply for not wanting any 'liberal' show on when the Iraq war started, after forcing it to have two pro-war guests on for every anti-war guest, and it gave Tucker Carlson a show for example, though it's now balanced by other shows.

If you could be bothered to read a book on the topic such as "What liberal media?", you would see long, detailed lists analyzing the issue and giving you your evidence.

So nothing specific except Brit Hume... gotcha no proof.

CBS tried to topple a sitting US president with forged documents so please do not say they are mixed that does not even pass the smell test.
Donahue was a cranky nut pure and simple. Hell they canned Michael Savage even though he was a top rated show. Why cause they are both too far something. As a whole MSNBC is almost an infomercial.
Mark Sanchez nuff said.
Chris Matthews is in man love with Obama.
Joe Scarborough is a goober that used to be a republican in the house.
Tucker please he's small potatoes. <--wow thanks he is such a powerhouse!
ABC all you have to say is Charlie Gibson. Did you see his interviews with OPbama and Palin? He asked cream puff questions to BHO then badgered Pailin like some rude lil schoolboy from the 3rd grade. "Buy Why? But Why?"
ABC's News/infomercial broadcast from the whitehouse.
Two other Evening News Anchors are out of touch left leaning self called moderates posing as everyday people.
 

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People still watch MSNBC? Last I checked, their ratings were worse than syndicated reruns of Roseanne...

Love all the lefties trying to casually dismiss this. Boy, I would have loved to see their reaction if someone at Fox News had said they got a "tingle up their leg" about Bush or a "thrill" about Sandra Day O'Connor.

The hypocrisy from the left...ahh...so blatant it is delicious.
 

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
People still watch MSNBC? Last I checked, their ratings were worse than syndicated reruns of Roseanne...

Love all the lefties trying to casually dismiss this. Boy, I would have loved to see their reaction if someone at Fox News had said they got a "tingle up their leg" about Bush or a "thrill" about Sandra Day O'Connor.

The hypocrisy from the left...ahh...so blatant it is delicious.

They did that for 8+ years. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Now they're just GOP pimping Obama attack dogs. Nothing new.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: Robor
Please explain why is Fox News #1 in viewership.


Because when Libs run everything else those outlets have to split market share silly. Any other dumb questions?

Whoosh... That was my point going over your head. I'll spell it out...

And LOL @ the 'libs run everything else' comment. Typical. Maybe if you guys repeat it enough it will be true?

Tell me one other MAJOR TV news outlet that is right leaning?

MSNBC watercarriers, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,HNN... WHAT DOES THAT LEAVE US?

cartoon network? Please enlighten us? :)

NBC has countless right-wing examples, ABC has frequently been rihgt-wing - Brit Hume, airing the right-wing 'the path to 9/11' film that blamed Clinton for 9/11, refusing moveon.org ads and much more; CBS has a mixed record; MSNBC cancelled the top-rated Phil Donahue show simply for not wanting any 'liberal' show on when the Iraq war started, after forcing it to have two pro-war guests on for every anti-war guest, and it gave Tucker Carlson a show for example, though it's now balanced by other shows.

If you could be bothered to read a book on the topic such as "What liberal media?", you would see long, detailed lists analyzing the issue and giving you your evidence.

I hope you had those blinders professionally installed.
 

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MSNBC was also the #1 network among Adults 18-34 in the second quarter, a promising statistic as the network looks to build itself as the cable news brand of the future. "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" was the top cable news program in that demo, as well.

Also from the link.
 

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Originally posted by: Via
MSNBC was also the #1 network among Adults 18-34 in the second quarter, a promising statistic as the network looks to build itself as the cable news brand of the future. "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" was the top cable news program in that demo, as well.

Also from the link.

You're really reaching here, continually harping on the whole "#1 in that demo" while trying to dance around the fact that it is pitifully low in total viewers.

More people than the 18-34 demo watch TV, especially the news/politics.

Textbook definition of "grasping for straws".
 

Via

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No one argues that a certain demographic flocks to Fox news and talk radio.

That ain't gonna change.
 

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Are we really going to turn this thread into a pissing match between Fox News and other outlets?

As has been said many times before, the number of viewers does not indicate the quality of the product. Fox News is easily the most dishonest, most partisan news outlet in the US and probably in the free world.
 

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Are we really going to turn this thread into a pissing match between Fox News and other outlets?

As has been said many times before, the number of viewers does not indicate the quality of the product. Fox News is easily the most dishonest, most partisan news outlet in the US and probably in the free world.

Yep, and you're really an impartial, unbiased and reliable source to make that broad and ignorant blanket statement for the rest of the US/world.

:roll:

Fox News doesn't need any sort of "matches" like you describe, because they are absolutely creaming state-run media outlets like MSNBC, which is what this thread is about since Chris Matthews is on MSNBC. Fox News' product and their viewers speaks for itself, just like MSNBCs, CNNs, etc. lack of viewers reflects on their biased and poor quality product.

NY Times, Boston Globe, etc. bunch of other liberal rags are failing left and right, and it's because of the blatant left-leaning partisanship. People are sick of it, and it shows with liberal media tanking left and right. Chris Matthews is a perfect example of this. Aren't the news outlets only supposed to report what's happening? Why are news anchors getting tingles about politicians?

Rail against Fox News, Rush, etc. all you want, but they aren't last in the ratings and don't need federal bailouts to stay in business. ;)

Jealousy is not a good color on the left!
 

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Are we really going to turn this thread into a pissing match between Fox News and other outlets?

As has been said many times before, the number of viewers does not indicate the quality of the product. Fox News is easily the most dishonest, most partisan news outlet in the US and probably in the free world.

Yep, and you're really an impartial, unbiased and reliable source to make that broad and ignorant blanket statement for the rest of the US/world.

:roll:

Fox News doesn't need any sort of "matches" like you describe, because they are absolutely creaming state-run media outlets like MSNBC, which is what this thread is about since Chris Matthews is on MSNBC. Fox News' product and their viewers speaks for itself, just like MSNBCs, CNNs, etc. lack of viewers reflects on their biased and poor quality product.

NY Times, Boston Globe, etc. bunch of other liberal rags are failing left and right, and it's because of the blatant left-leaning partisanship. People are sick of it, and it shows with liberal media tanking left and right. Chris Matthews is a perfect example of this. Aren't the news outlets only supposed to report what's happening? Why are news anchors getting tingles about politicians?

Rail against Fox News, Rush, etc. all you want, but they aren't last in the ratings and don't need federal bailouts to stay in business. ;)

Jealousy is not a good color on the left!

Maybe the popularity of Fox News is a reflection of the ignorance that permeates our society rather than a statement of how great Fox News is.


 

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Originally posted by: EXman

So nothing specific except Brit Hume... gotcha no proof.

There are plenty, including the other example I gave there; they also agreed to air the Swift bot lies. But it's a big topic a book is appropriate for- I gave you one.

You won't read it, because you are not interested in the truth. If I offer to buy you a copy, you won't promise to read it.

CBS tried to topple a sitting US president with forged documents so please do not say they are mixed that does not even pass the smell test.

You are lying. You don't pass the smelll test.

Let's look back at the facts we know about that incident:

CBS *was approached* with documents related to Bush's guard duty, which they already had plenty of evidene about *that stands to this day*. They didn't go making them up.

The document - we know the source (to CBS) of the documents, we know how he positioned them, we know his situation as being in a positition to have obtained them.

The staff were under very tight time pressures, as this story was breaking various places. Let's say for the sake of argument that they did not get the ideal validation done.

The question here is motive. They had every reason to think the documents were real - they had no knowledge they were false. You claim they SET OUT to topple a president with forged documents, as if they knew they were false when they ran the story - which is a complete lie, because as we know, they did not know the documents were false - you, in fact, are the one pushing lies not only about their intent, but about the story itself, given the evidence they had besides the documents.

And in fact, on the documents themselves, how 'phony' were they obviously? Besides the screaming internet - who has also informed us how Barack Obama likes hanging out with terrorists and isn't a natural-born US citizen (and how Bill Clinton murdered Vince Foster when he wasn't stealing with Whitewater) - they had the very secretary of the man these documents were claimed tobe written by *saying she remembered these documents accurately reflecting his views*. So, the content of the documents was *accurate*.

The documents themselves - a multi-million dollar investigation that got rid of the CBS people who had not fully verified the documents said the authenticity could not be determined for sure, that they were probably reproductions. So, we have probable reproductions of real documents with accurate information, as part of a story with other solid evidence, that the staff did not fully verify - their source later said he lied to them - that the staff did not know were probably not the originals. How terrible!

Obviously, a case of the network trying to overthrow the president by knowingly using false documents to lie! You are the one peddling the lies.

Donahue was a cranky nut pure and simple.

You're lying pure and simple - he looks that way to you through your bias. It's not the point - the point is as I said. They would not tolerate any anti-war views.

Hell they canned Michael Savage even though he was a top rated show. Why cause they are both too far something. As a whole MSNBC is almost an infomercial.

In your idiotic view, Savage's behavior like wishing AIDS on a gay caller is the same as Donahue's show having on one respectable anti-war guest for two pro-war guests.

Being against the Iraq war to you is 'extremist' and not suitable for any media time. And you think you can have any rational discussion about the media? Hardly.

Mark Sanchez nuff said.
Actually no, know idea who he is.

Chris Matthews is in man love with Obama.

BS. Matthews IMO is more right than left - he's attacked liberals a lot more than right-wingers in my opinion, but he's in some odd place attacking both at times.

I can dig up plenty of quotes of him viciously attacking 'the left' in spite of his Democratic background log ago (Reagan used to be a new dealer).

Joe Scarborough is a goober that used to be a republican in the house.

Still right-wing.

Tucker please he's small potatoes. <--wow thanks he is such a powerhouse!

Ya, you can't deal with the fact that a terrible propagandist like Carlson got a right-wig show, what that says about the network.

ABC all you have to say is Charlie Gibson. Did you see his interviews with OPbama and Palin? He asked cream puff questions to BHO then badgered Pailin like some rude lil schoolboy from the 3rd grade. "Buy Why? But Why?"

Yes, I can see why an interview might not see the rational answers of Obama any different than the insane Palin going on about her qualifications from 'seeing Russia'.

ABC's News/infomercial broadcast from the whitehouse.
Two other Evening News Anchors are out of touch left leaning self called moderates posing as everyday people.

Brian Williams? Right-wing orientation IMO.

Go search some of these names on mediamattersorg and get the facts about their behavior.

And read a book. "What liberal media?"