Chris Christie's path to the White House..

[cubby1223]

Seriously, the last two Republican presidential primaries the centrist won the nomination.

The poster-child of crazy far right pandering social nut-job, Rick Perry, did not even win a single delegate.

 

[zinfamous]

What the fuck are you talking about?

You are basing your stance on past Republican nominees, correct?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/romney-elaborates-on-evolution/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ88l5ql_FQ


And then, let's see... hmmm... do you believe there is any possibility the southern states will turn out with the Democrat winning the majority of votes? Florida is the only swing state in the south. The rest are not.

Are you getting your ideas from Rachel Maddow? I don't understand...

North Carolina and Virginia aren't swing states in your opinion?

:hmm:

How about Maryland? It is below the MD line, you know.

 

[Agent11]

Not electable. What the republicans need is a young charismatic moderate. Someone not afraid of staying away from the social conservative wedge issues that democrats love to beat republicans over the head with, capable of doing so with out looking like a scared ninny or swallowing a foot.

 

[cubby1223]

North Carolina and Virginia aren't swing states in your opinion?

:hmm:

How about Maryland? It is below the MD line, you know.

Way to completely miss the point! Cookie for you!

Do you believe a Republican must be a religious extremist to win North Carolina and Virginia in the presidential election? If not then you agree with my point. Don Vito Corleone was talking about pandering to the extremists, which are commonly thought of as South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Texas, all states that will go Republican no matter what. The neighboring swing states require a centrist on social issues to win.

Religious extremists do not determine the primary winner, as was proven in the last two primaries, nor do they have much weight in the general election.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The fat fuck has already killed off any conservative stance economically. How hard the fattie worked to pass a pork bill comes at no surprise.

Is a diet.

I'm being dead serious here. Assuming this is an intentional strategy and he can pull it off this is really quite brilliant. Make an issue of the weight now, drop 200+ pounds for the 2016 election, and instant win. Inspiration, role model, president. Of course he then gains it all back his first term.

 

[sportage]

I found it AMAZING Mr chunky can cry foul about treated unfairly by some ex white house doctor, or the media, or outraged that his kids ask him, DADDY, ARE YOU GOING TO DIE?
All when... and never forget this... all while that Mr chunky's fat ass sits on a bill that by a simple signing would allow his state the benefit of same sex marriage.
So I say, how outrageous ONE person would deny an entire group of citizens their civil rights.
Or that a child of same sex parents might go to mommie and ask, "MOMMIE, ARE YOU AND LINDA BAD? THE GOVERNOR THINKS SO.
Yes fat ass... bigotry works both ways.
But when a bigot cries bigotry and "not fair" from others, and this same bigot cannot see past his own bigoted fat ass to differentiate between one bigotry vs another bigotry, then screw Mr chunky.
I don't care if Mr Chunky personally sucks a hurricane out of the clouds, this fat ass bigot IS NOT presidential any more than Charles Manson is presidential.
He may be a big chunky man, but his brain is as teeny tiny as his dick.
And both seldom see the light.....

 

[Incorruptible]

If the gop wants to win then they need someone who has real ideas. They dont need some crazy religious extremist but someone with good fiscal conservative values and who is also socially liberal. These social issues are killing the gop and they need to let go of this nonsense. They also need someone who has a good foreign policy.

Rand Paul would be an excellent choice, A fiscal conservative, socially liberal with an excellent foreign policy and obeys the Constitution

 

[88keys]

I honestly think Christie has a solid chance minus the weight.

The biggest problem with the G.O.P. is that as a candidate one must pretend to be loony and extreme to appeal to it's base, than promptly do a 180 and pretend to be moderate to appeal to the middle.


Love him or hate him, Christie's weight will be the subject of heavy criticism as a presidential candidate and will make a difference is the minds of some voters which is a price he may not be able to afford in something as high stakes as a presidential election.

He needs to at least himself down to about the size of Newt Gingrich.


FWIW I think 2016 will be Clinton - O'Malley vs Christie - Rubio

 

[Incorruptible]

I honestly think Christie has a solid chance minus the weight.

The biggest problem with the G.O.P. is that as a candidate one must pretend to be loony and extreme to appeal to it's base, than promptly do a 180 and pretend to be moderate to appeal to the middle.


Love him or hate him, Christie's weight will be the subject of heavy criticism as a presidential candidate and will make a difference is the minds of some voters which is a price he may not be able to afford in something as high stakes as a presidential election.

He needs to at least himself down to about the size of Newt Gingrich.


FWIW I think 2016 will be Clinton - O'Malley vs Christie - Rubio

That was one of the big problems with romney.

It is possible that clinton will run since she had the softball interviews with obama and 60 minutes. If she does run then Americans will sadly forget about what happened with Benghazi.

As for Christie he does have some good ideas but I think he will have a hard time getting the nomination, he is against the 2nd Amendment and that will be a big issue for many voters.

Rand Paul would be an ideal pick, Even Nikki Haley if here ideas were similar to Rand Paul would be a good pick as well

 

[88keys]

As far as Benghazi is concerned, it wasn't an issue getting Obama re-elected in 2008 so I would find it very hard to believe that it will be a big issue 4 years from now.


FWIW, The worst national security/foreign policy disaster in U.S. History happened under Bush's watch and he was labeled a hero and credited for keeping us safe.

 

[Incorruptible]

As far as Benghazi is concerned, it wasn't an issue getting Obama re-elected in 2008 so I would find it very hard to believe that it will be a big issue 4 years from now.


FWIW, The worst national security/foreign policy disaster in U.S. History happened under Bush's watch and he was labeled a hero and credited for keeping us safe.

It wasnt a big issue due to the media helping him and it wont be an issue in 2016 because most Americans dont care but it should be a big issue considering how bad the screw-up was and shows how the US needs to rethink its foreign policy.

bush wasn't a hero and he didn't really keep us safe, bin laden accomplished exactly what he wanted to do.

 

[HomerJS]

That was one of the big problems with romney.

It is possible that clinton will run since she had the softball interviews with obama and 60 minutes. If she does run then Americans will sadly forget about what happened with Benghazi.

As for Christie he does have some good ideas but I think he will have a hard time getting the nomination, he is against the 2nd Amendment and that will be a big issue for many voters.

Rand Paul would be an ideal pick, Even Nikki Haley if here ideas were similar to Rand Paul would be a good pick as well

There's that "little thing" of being against the Civil Rights Act.

 

[marincounty]

Christie is the first sane Republican I've seen in quite a while. He obviously has no chance in today's Republican party.
I mean actually working with the other party to get help for your devastated people, what a horrible Republican.
I think his approval ratings are around 70%. Sure he's a fat ass, but we've already tried electing stupid (Bush), I think people could vote for a fat bastard.

 

[zinfamous]

Way to completely miss the point! Cookie for you!

Do you believe a Republican must be a religious extremist to win North Carolina and Virginia in the presidential election? If not then you agree with my point. Don Vito Corleone was talking about pandering to the extremists, which are commonly thought of as South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, Texas, all states that will go Republican no matter what. The neighboring swing states require a centrist on social issues to win.

Religious extremists do not determine the primary winner, as was proven in the last two primaries, nor do they have much weight in the general election.

Texas has been trending Demo blue, and irreversibly for about 4 years now. Funny, but true. So, Never say "no matter what."




got it, btw.

 

[zinfamous]

That was one of the big problems with romney.

It is possible that clinton will run since she had the softball interviews with obama and 60 minutes. If she does run then Americans will sadly forget about what happened with Benghazi.

As for Christie he does have some good ideas but I think he will have a hard time getting the nomination, he is against the 2nd Amendment and that will be a big issue for many voters.

Rand Paul would be an ideal pick, Even Nikki Haley if here ideas were similar to Rand Paul would be a good pick as well

problem is, Rand Paul hates America.

and everyone hates Rand/Ron Paul.

sad for you.

 

[DrPizza]

He has a 78% approval rating - in a blue state. He was elected - in a blue state.

He's electable. The question is, just how looney do you have to be to appeal to enough of the party to win the primaries? If he says one thing to appeal to the morons, then does a 180 degree switch, that's going to be a huge problem for people trusting him to vote for him.
Oh, and for the sake of comparison, when Romney left office as governor of Mass., his approval rating was 34%.

 

[Incorruptible]

There's that "little thing" of being against the Civil Rights Act.

Lies, Keep trolling

 

[Ausm]

He has a 78% approval rating - in a blue state. He was elected - in a blue state.

He's electable. The question is, just how looney do you have to be to appeal to enough of the party to win the primaries? If he says one thing to appeal to the morons, then does a 180 degree switch, that's going to be a huge problem for people trusting him to vote for him.
Oh, and for the sake of comparison, when Romney left office as governor of Mass., his approval rating was 34%.

Not by a Teapublicant's definition.

 

[Incorruptible]

problem is, Rand Paul hates America.

and everyone hates Rand/Ron Paul.

sad for you.

How about you stop lying or is that too hard for you?

Rand Paul doesn't hate the US, he could fix the problem we have right now. I am the one who consistently posts about the US being attacked and in many of those threads you ignore/downplay what I say so that means you hate America.

Ron Paul would have beat obama.

 

[JTsyo]

While he's a good governor, I don't think he's got the right personality to be president.

 

[Blackjack200]

He has a 78% approval rating - in a blue state. He was elected - in a blue state.

He's electable. The question is, just how looney do you have to be to appeal to enough of the party to win the primaries? If he says one thing to appeal to the morons, then does a 180 degree switch, that's going to be a huge problem for people trusting him to vote for him.
Oh, and for the sake of comparison, when Romney left office as governor of Mass., his approval rating was 34%.

Yes, he's very popular in New Jersey, but I think you have to examine why. New Jersey's Democratic party is rotten to the core, they had two Democratic Governors (McGreevey and Corzine) that were absolute disasters. They elected Christie to try to get control of the budget and pension liabilities, and they are happy that he has fought against the entrenched establisment in Trenton. Even with a 78% approval rating, I don't think NJ would vote for him for president. They wouldn't trust him at the national level.

I also don't his cantankerous style would play at the national level. Christie is an attack dog through and through. President Obama can play brutal politics, but it's never him that actually delivers the blow. Christie's attitude would work much better as a Chief of Staff or Press Secratary or something where hurling barbs and getting people in line is needed.

 

[emperus]

What the fuck are you talking about?

You are basing your stance on past Republican nominees, correct?

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/romney-elaborates-on-evolution/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ88l5ql_FQ


And then, let's see... hmmm... do you believe there is any possibility the southern states will turn out with the Democrat winning the majority of votes? Florida is the only swing state in the south. The rest are not.

Are you getting your ideas from Rachel Maddow? I don't understand...

He has to get by the primaries first. Mitt Romney held most of the same positions Christie holds. He only won the primary by carpet bombing his weak field with an avalanche of money and his uncanny ability to lie about everything he's ever believed. You also forget the Republicans have become crazier..err I mean lurcher further to the right since McCain won the nomination evidenced by McCain being primaried in his own state. Don't think Christie will have the benefits of a weak field and crap loads of money like Romney did. Lastly his style of supposed straight talking doesn't lead to being a brazen liar like Romney was. If he tries that he will lose the only upside he has.

 

[Thump553]

Lies, Keep trolling

Rand Paul turns 180 degrees and backtracks on his position against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and you really expect those of us that are not Paulbots to forget that? Get real.

Chris Christie is one of the most interesting GOP figures to come along since at least Reagan. Given the makeup of today's GOP he has absolutely no chance of winning the GOP nomination even if he weighed 160 lbs and was a triathelete.

I don't agree with Christie on much, but I think he was 100% correct on attacking the former White House doctor. She went way overboard and had no business publically opining on his health when she had never examined him. That said, we all know she was pretty much correct-he won't be around in a decade unless he pulls an Al Sharpton/Mike Huckabee, and soon.

 

[Incorruptible]

Rand Paul turns 180 degrees and backtracks on his position against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and you really expect those of us that are not Paulbots to forget that? Get real.

Chris Christie is one of the most interesting GOP figures to come along since at least Reagan. Given the makeup of today's GOP he has absolutely no chance of winning the GOP nomination even if he weighed 160 lbs and was a triathelete.

I don't agree with Christie on much, but I think he was 100% correct on attacking the former White House doctor. She went way overboard and had no business publically opining on his health when she had never examined him. That said, we all know she was pretty much correct-he won't be around in a decade unless he pulls an Al Sharpton/Mike Huckabee, and soon.

Keep lying obama lapdog

HE IS AGAINST THE PART THAT DISALLOWS PRIVATE BUSINESS FROM DISCRIMINATION

PRIVATE BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE BUT GOVERNMENT CANT

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

The WH doctor may have been wrong making public comments, but that doesn't make Christie attacking her right.