Chris Christie Announces ... He's Fat. However, it this only a conspiracy plot?

sportage

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Have you heard the BIG NEWS? Chris Christie tossed his hat into the ring. So lets play this out...
WHY would someone with terrible poll ratings get in the race for president? Or why would Nikki Haley? Or Mike Pence? Or Vivek Ramaswamy? Or Asa Hutchinson? Tim Scott? Why would these destine to fail, polls in the dumpster, losing candidates even try?
Well, here's a conspiracy theory for ya... they run only because Trump wants them to run.

Remember that 2016 election? The election where there were so many candidates they had to have cluster-F**K debates? Not enough room on stage for them all so they divided the republican candidates into two groups, into two debates. Some candidates were mad because everyone wanted to be on stage in the top tier, not waiting their turn back stage at the children's table. But look what happened in 2016 with Trump, they had so many lower quality candidates that Donald Trump easily knocked them off one by one. The only plausible candidate back in 2016 was maybe Jeb Bush because he was a Bush, and maybe Rand Paul and Marco Rubio, maybe. The others back in 2016 were easy pickins for Donald Trump. Frankly, all of them ended up as easy pickins for Donald Trump.

And remember this, as Trump knocked off one challenger after another challenger, it only made Donald Trump appear to be the great defeater of challengers. Some type of orange super-hero figure. And for the most part, that was how Donald Trump progressed from being a joke to becoming the front runner, and then onto the RNC nominee.
And so.... would it not make sense this could be the Trump's plan all over again? For 2024? After all, it worked for him back in 2016 whether intentionally devised or not, still and regardless Trump had stumbled upon a formula that worked well for him in 2016. Again, it was simple. You knock off your challenger one by one making it appear you have some super human power, the audience is totally amazed, and the media totally spellbound. Remember that Trump spell-bounded media of 2016?
So here we are this time around, and why else would we have so many republican losers running for president? With all of them, every one of them having once been very loyal very dependable Trumpie Donald Trump supporters. Diehard Trump supporters all of them.

Trump could be setting the stage for a repeat of 2016, where his challengers are so flawed and such nobodies that Trump will easily, effortlessly pick them off one by one. And what that means, Donald Trump will then appear as the all mighty all invincible super human super hero. As the only plausible challenger and defeat Joe Biden.
You think Donald Trump is smart enough for this? To plan something like this? And, do you think the republican presidential challengers are still loyal enough to Trump to play along? Plus, serving as an insurance policy to insure Ron DeSantis will never come close enough to Donald Trump to actually threaten Donald Trump. How can Ron DeSantis dare go up against a super-hero when that super-hero swings his mighty sword, slewing his challengers one by one, leaving only a heap of bloodied failed presidential hopefuls?
Yeah, I think Trump is still pulling the strings in the party more than people who are not republicans dare imagine. It's a plan. All of the players in the game have been loyalist throughout the years, and nothing has happened to change that, not really.

You have to admit, it will be quite a spectacle when out of all the republican presidential hopefuls only Trump and DeSantis are left standing on stage. And we already know about Trump's mouth, so does anyone believe little simple-woke-minded Ron DeSantis has a chance in hell up against a Donald Trump? Trump, the the slayer of many and the god of republicans. DeSantis interest could amount to eyeing the vp slot because Trump can only win one more time and unlike Donald Trump Ron DeSantis will still have his youth come 2028.

PS. Oh did I mention, Christie announced today. :p
 
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eelw

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I stopped listening to his rant when he said it was Obama that started the divisiveness
 
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HomerJS

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He really said that? His version of Mexico sending all its murders to the US.

My question for Crisco…

Were you surprised Trump was someone who would attempt a coup against the US?

If he says yes he is a shitty judge of character

If he says no he is as corrupt as Trump

Either is disqualifying
 

Thump553

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I used to really like and respect Chris Christie, but these days he is an absolute no-go for me under any circumstances. The major reasons:

1) Lindsey Graham excluded, Christie is the poster child for going from speaking the truth about Trump to fawning sycophant almost overnight.

2) The whole bridgegate fiasco (where he intentionally caused massive traffic jams on the NJ Turnpike to punish a Dem mayor who would not endorse him) shows him to be a vindictive and rotten politician to the core, and

3) As someone who went from a skinny athletic teen to a grossly obese adult who is still obese almost a decade after weight loss surgery my armchair diagnosis is that he has deep physiological defects that bar him from consideration for the presidency. If he can't address that relatively simple and straight forward problem how in the world can he handle the complex issues facing of the US?

The GOP race is becoming crowded, but Trump is right on one point-nearly all of his competitors will never have any realistic shot at the nomination. Christie definitely included.
 

ivwshane

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It does certainly seem like a move that would siphon voters away from desantis and ultimately end up giving trump the majority of the votes. Otherwise I’m not sure why Chris thinks he has a shot this time. Maybe republicans have a really easy way to funnel campaign money to their personal accounts.
 

HomerJS

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It does certainly seem like a move that would siphon voters away from desantis and ultimately end up giving trump the majority of the votes. Otherwise I’m not sure why Chris thinks he has a shot this time. Maybe republicans have a really easy way to funnel campaign money to their personal accounts.
IMO this is a revenge tour for CC. Payback to Javanka for icing him out of the Trump administration.
 

pmv

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Don't know enough about the US to be aware of who the guy is. I do know that for some reason I find the idea of Mike Pence running in the primary to be bizarre. I can't imagine what possible coherent story he can tell about his record. Is he going to defend his time as VP or to pick a fight with Trump? He now wants the votes of the people who wanted to hang him?
 

VRAMdemon

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He really has no chance. After attacking Trump, the MAGA's and lower level Trump supporters would sit on their hands before voting for him. But watching him torch Trump and his family of grifters will be some good entertainment. Christie helped send Jared’s father to prison. So far, it looks like he's going to direct attention to the grift. Plus, I don't think Chris ever got over Trump almost killing him with Covid.
 

SMOGZINN

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This has (almost) nothing to do with Trump. They don't care about Trump, nor do they expect to win. What they expect to do is grift the hell out of a lot of people out of a hell of a lot of money and then use our extremely lax campaign finance laws to transfer a significant amount of that grifted money into the pockets of their friends and family.

It is really that simple. Republicans are a grift machine, and more and more of them are wanting in on some of the top end action.
 

HomerJS

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How? It’ll only help trump by diluting the vote.
I bet he thinks he can take out Trump like he did Marco Rubio. Christie has a big mouth and he will use it. It should be bloody. If he takes out Trump he will then go after DeeeSantis
 

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Chris Christie knew exactly who Trump was and supported him at least through basically the 2020 election. He's a piece of shit.

That being said, Christie will certainly qualify for the GOP primary debates and so he's going to have a chance to shit all over Trump to an audience of people who normally avoid that in a media bubble so at least he could be of some use.
 
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Taft has the record of heaviest POTUS at 332 lbs. Wonder if Christie breaks that?

Looks like Bartolo Colon. This was 8 years ago. He's likely fatter.
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iRONic

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He's gonna be a grifting tangerine terrorist assassin!

The quotes and insults should be glorious. 😂🤩
 

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Chris Christie knew exactly who Trump was and supported him at least through basically the 2020 election. He's a piece of shit.

That being said, Christie will certainly qualify for the GOP primary debates and so he's going to have a chance to shit all over Trump to an audience of people who normally avoid that in a media bubble so at least he could be of some use.

I listened to an interview of someone affiliated with Christie's campaign just yesterday, and he basically said the only reason Christie is in the race is to dump on Trump. Claimed that Christie will not treat Trump with kid gloves as will the other candidates. We'll see.
 
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fskimospy

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I listened to an interview of someone affiliated with Christie's campaign just yesterday, and he basically said the only reason Christie is in the race is to dump on Trump. Claimed that Christie will not treat Trump with kid gloves as will the other candidates. We'll see.
I have to say he’s followed through with that so far. Not sure if you’ve seen the clips from whatever campaign event he did the other day but he came straight out and called the Trumps grifters stealing the public’s money and more.

My concern is that this is just a way for Christie to grift donor money from anti Trump people as Christie has no chance of winning the nomination but if he wants to grift as part of a kamikaze mission against Trump so be it.
 

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Never mind any individual Republican candidate.

At this point I am at a total loss for how the Republican party is even salvageable. Its a shame, because we need some other functional options when it comes to governance.

I'm not a huge fan of the Democratic Party, between their limousine liberal schtick, half corporate capture and half "I haven't met a problem I couldn't regulate to death" attitude (which is part of the corporate capture), and their absolute and total strategic/tactical dysfunction.

But compared to Republicans I feel like I don't really have a choice anymore.
 

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Never mind any individual Republican candidate.

At this point I am at a total loss for how the Republican party is even salvageable. Its a shame, because we need some other functional options when it comes to governance.

I'm not a huge fan of the Democratic Party, between their limousine liberal schtick, half corporate capture and half "I haven't met a problem I couldn't regulate to death" attitude (which is part of the corporate capture), and their absolute and total strategic/tactical dysfunction.

But compared to Republicans I feel like I don't really have a choice anymore.
History tells us that any time a US political party dies, from whatever the cause, another quickly steps up to takes it's place. Either one faction of the dead party becomes prominent and revitalizes the party, or the remaining party's internal differences become the new major political divides and splits that party in two. Political power, like nature, abhors a vacuum.
 
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HomerJS

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This countries IQ must really be slipping. Listening to CC's rationale against Trump and claiming there were no negatives back when he ran is laughable. None of the people in this forum are the brightest bulbs except for @Moonbeam yet most of us recognized who Trump was back in 2016. He hasn't changed.

CC is the start but be on the lookout for the gradual whitewashing of Trump's 2016-2020 history. "Who could have seen this coming?" will be their claim.
 
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Pens1566

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Oh but he did, it was very divisive to have the audacity to President while Black.


/s hopefully not required

I've said that many times before. We might have been "cracking" before that, but Obama getting elected just shattered it to pieces as it brought out all the racism that had been a bit more under the radar prior.