Choose one of each:

[Ruptga]

Order, or chaos?
Authoritarianism, or freedom (of choice)?

If you chose one of each side, how do you rationalize your cognitive dissonance?
If you chose the same side both times, how do you rationalize taking that extreme?

 

[soulcougher73]

Order, or chaos?
Authoritarianism, or freedom?

If you chose one of each side, how do you rationalize your cognitive dissonance?
If you chose the same side both times, how do you rationalize taking that extreme?

Order and Freedom. Id like to think free people can find a way to get along with order and that most people are not killers, theives etc

 

[sm625]

You cannot have order without chaos.

 

[Ruptga]

Order and Freedom. Id like to think free people can find a way to get along with order and that most people are not killers, theives etc

Mature and sane adults can, if they choose to. There are a lot of people out there that don't meet at least one of those conditions.

It applies to lower-importance stuff too, like traffic. The more freedom drivers have over their individual speed and direction, the slower traffic can move as a whole. We get traffic to move faster (without increasing lanes) by improving the timing of traffic controls (lights), ticketing people taking their sweet time, making some roads one-way, or eliminating intersections. What happens when drivers have (or take) the freedom to do whatever the hell they want (like in every active school zone ever)?

 

[moonbogg]

Chaos and freedom. Order is an illusion. There is only reduced levels of chaos, delayed chaos, or masked chaos. In the civilized world, we have a whole lot of masked chaos. Let the economy crash hard over night and lets see how much chaos becomes unmasked. People become violent animals instantly.

 

[maddogchen]

order and Authoritarianism but only if I'm in charge.

 

[witeken]

Order, or chaos?
Authoritarianism, or freedom?

If you chose one of each side, how do you rationalize your cognitive dissonance?
If you chose the same side both times, how do you rationalize taking that extreme?

I won't choose anything, because this is obviously a false dichotomy.

 

[Ruptga]

I won't choose anything, because this is obviously a false dichotomy.

Would you like it better if I had asked for your general preferences instead? Pretend I had.

 

[witeken]

Would you like it better if I had asked for your general preferences instead? Pretend I had.

Order and freedom.

I mainly had a problem with the questions you ask then; I don't think you can really conclude much from the answers.

 

[DigDog]

wtf does freedom mean.

freedom to be nice and leave your car unlocked is "order"

freedom to steal someone's unlocked car is "chaos"

they are BOTH freedom. someone is always "free", it depends on WHO it is who is free.

 

[alzan]

Order and freedom, with a side order of chaos just to keep things interesting.

 

[Ruptga]

wtf does freedom mean.

freedom to be nice and leave your car unlocked is "order"

freedom to steal someone's unlocked car is "chaos"

they are BOTH freedom. someone is always "free", it depends on WHO it is who is free.

OP now fixed.

Not being able to steal others' stuff is kinda mandatory for order, but it limits an individual's ability to make choices. Likewise, people being civil to each other means things are less chaotic, but operating within those rules for civility limits freedom of expression (as in the case of stereotypical Japanese culture). Because of all that, the existence of order always requires some degree of authoritarianism. Right?

 

[Paul98]

I'll take some of all, no extremes

 

[DigDog]

again, i must reiterate my point.

to use your words, freedom of expression is it singing in the middle of the road, or vandalizing someone's car with spraypaint?

when you have freedom 1 you have order; when you have freedom 2 you have chaos.

(the whole "requires authoritarianism" thing is a completely different question, of whether people are inherently good or bad. )

 

[etrigan420]

Chaos.

 

[OverVolt]

I usually just build alot of defense and go for a cultural victory.