Chiropractor for dogs and cats, Pittsburgh

[ichy]

athletes gain benefits from chiropractic care, too. a correlation can be made that teams that have regular chiropractic care do better than teams that don't (at least in football, baseball, golf, and the olympics). can't really speak for other sports.

Show me an actual scientific study that demonstrates this.

 

[StrangerGuy]

I got homeopathic dark energy enhanced water to sell you.

 

[alkemyst]

Show me an actual scientific study that demonstrates this.

I'd be willing to go with the fact that many teams have a chiropracter/DO on staff as enough proof for me.

Money is no object at their level and they get what works to make the team better.

There are a lot of quacks out there like in any field.

I have had good luck with a DO doing some manipulations that I thought were 'cheesy' at first, but I ended up feeling better and no I didn't now have to permanently go to them each week for an adjustment.

 

[Nintendesert]

I'd be willing to go with the fact that many teams have a chiropracter/DO on staff as enough proof for me.

Money is no object at their level and they get what works to make the team better.

There are a lot of quacks out there like in any field.

I have had good luck with a DO doing some manipulations that I thought were 'cheesy' at first, but I ended up feeling better and no I didn't now have to permanently go to them each week for an adjustment.

Yeah, not like they'd piss away tons of money on a placebo effect in order to get better performance.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Is pet massage a fancy term for petting and a good scratch behind the ears?

Since we know the benefits of massage for humans, those benefits can sure apply to pets. They have muscles, too.

 

[alkemyst]

Yeah, not like they'd piss away tons of money on a placebo effect in order to get better performance.

LoL. You believe that, seriously?

From sports is where a lot of our real knowledge comes on performance enhancement.

 

[Nintendesert]

LoL. You believe that, seriously?

From sports is where a lot of our real knowledge comes on performance enhancement.

You really believe that?? The rituals and bullshit they do to try and get wins and more performance speak more to their lack of real scientific belief and more to their love of pseudoscience quackery that encompasses chiropractors.

 

[ichy]

LoL. You believe that, seriously?

I absolutely do. A huge part of competing at the top level in any kind of sport is mental.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You really believe that?? The rituals and bullshit they do to try and get wins and more performance speak more to their lack of real scientific belief and more to their love of pseudoscience quackery that encompasses chiropractors.

My guess is that with animals, you don't have a placebo effect. If there performance, comfort improve than I would tend to believe some of the science.

 

[waggy]

lol this is one of the rare times i will agree with alky. I do think it has its place. While the practice has its scammers i do think it has its benefits. I could see elite sports having them and getting a gain.

If it had a benefit to people yeah i can see it on animals. now is it worth it? that's up to the owner.

 

[WelshBloke]

My guess is that with animals, you don't have a the placebo effect...

You do with the owners though and they are the ones reporting the success or otherwise of the treatment.

 

[alkemyst]

You really believe that?? The rituals and bullshit they do to try and get wins and more performance speak more to their lack of real scientific belief and more to their love of pseudoscience quackery that encompasses chiropractors.

those 'rituals' don't get funding.

I take it you and ichy haven't really played at sports.

 

[alkemyst]

You do with the owners though and they are the ones reporting the success or otherwise of the treatment.

not in real studies.

 

[WelshBloke]

not in real studies.

So the dogs are filling in the patient questioners then?

 

[alkemyst]

So the dogs are filling in the patient questioners then?

Yeah, because verbal and written answers are the only way to evaluate.

 

[Wyndru]

My Mom has 3 dachshund's, all three of them have back problems that the vet just considers is normal for their breed. I wonder if something like this would help.

 

[WelshBloke]

Yeah, because verbal and written answers are the only way to evaluate.

What ways are they using that cover most situations and avoid observer bias?

 

[alkemyst]

What ways are they using that cover most situations and avoid observer bias?

I wouldn't even know where to begin explaining this then...there are tons of metrics (range of motion, mobility, etc) that can be measured and qualified.

It's not that complicated.

 

[WelshBloke]

I wouldn't even know where to begin explaining this then...there are tons of metrics (range of motion, mobility, etc) that can be measured and qualified.

It's not that complicated.

Setting up truly non biased studies to look at things like that is complicated, it's one of the biggest problem with clinical trials.

 

[Nintendesert]

those 'rituals' don't get funding.

I take it you and ichy haven't really played at sports.

Yes they do, whether it's bringing someone a particular food before a game or having only a certain trainer slap them in the face. That's all funded by the team and condoned because the entire industry is a witchcraft loving circus. So the quackery of chiropractors fits in perfectly.

 

[alkemyst]

I am believing more and more our posters lack basic education in science.