Chip-Con Prometeia Hardware!

[MrGamer7934]

I've ordered this case and want hardware for inside to unlesh full overclocking potential of my 3.06

What Motherboard? Is the Granite Bay chipset the way to go because it offers the fastest performance currently in a ddr platform before the overclock? or another consideration of mine, ABIT IT7 MAX2?

What RAM? Corsair XMS 3200 or 3500? Platinum? Whats the diffeence between the two versions.

Power Supply? Will my Enermax 430w be enough to supply juice to this monster?

Components being used so far....
Pentium 4 3.06
Radeon 9700
2x 80GB WD SE HD in Raid 0
1 GIG of DDR RAM
Liteon DVD and CDRW

 

[MrGamer7934]

^^^^

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: MrGamer7934
Components being used so far....
Pentium 4 3.06
Radeon 9700
2x 80GB WD SE HD in Raid 0
1 GIG of DDR RAM
Liteon DVD and CDRW

Omfg...I hate you. :-D With the Prometeia in there, I would definitely opt for a bigger power supply then the 431w (if not, 431w woulda been fine). 500w should be more then enough.

As for the RAM, get the 3500, Platinum is up to you, the only difference is on the Platinum the heatsinks on the RAM are a higher quality.

If you're willing to wait, go for the GB mobos, but they will cost you quite a bit (although I see that really doesnt matter in this case )

 

[Rhett]

ive got one on the way also (topless version) & that psu is fine (im using it also) since the unit has its own seperate power supply. as for the mobo, if you can afford it & can find one, go with a granite bay board. as for memory if you need corsair get the pc3500 cas2 over the 3200 cas2, again if you dont mind the price diff. or if you want the fastest rated memory (if you got the cosair you might be lucky & get a stick that could hit this, or possibly surpass it, but it by far isnt guaranteed) get GeIL's new pc3700 cas2.5 ( cas2 not existing yet ) i haven't seen many reviews of it though as it is brand new

 

[MrGamer7934]

Alright everyone, thanks for the feedback! Appreciate very very much. I've located a Gigabyte GA-8INXP today at newegg! Ordered that mobo along with 1gb worth of XMS 3500C2 and can't wait for shipments to arrive so I can get my prometeia together! I can't wait to overclock the S&%# out of this CPU!

Keep you posted,
Gamer

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

have fun!!


(remember, whatever you do, DONT go over 1.7v actual.....even tho its below zero idle lol...)

 

[MrGamer7934]

thanks for the advice, even though my temps are low, I dont want to kill it

 

[SuperPickle]

I realize this is slightly off-topic, but I'm sitting here wondering why you haven't put SCSI into that monster rig. It's a shame to bottleneck that box at disk access. The glories of 15K are awesome.
Again, sorry for the *semi*thread-crap.
B420

 

[ChampionAtTufshop]

Originally posted by: basilisk420
I realize this is slightly off-topic, but I'm sitting here wondering why you haven't put SCSI into that monster rig. It's a shame to bottleneck that box at disk access. The glories of 15K are awesome.
Again, sorry for the *semi*thread-crap.
B420

with that much money already being spent on the rig, i wonder if the guy has any cash leftover let alone scsi hahaha
besides, its not too bad wtih 1gb of ram (its a personal system, and most of the info will be written to ram probably without being paged)

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: MrGamer7934
Alright everyone, thanks for the feedback! Appreciate very very much. I've located a Gigabyte GA-8INXP today at newegg! Ordered that mobo along with 1gb worth of XMS 3500C2 and can't wait for shipments to arrive so I can get my prometeia together! I can't wait to overclock the S&%# out of this CPU!

Keep you posted,
Gamer

You make me so jealous

 

[MrGamer7934]

Definately dont consider suggestion for SCSI as a thread crap.... It's wishful thinking

The last improvement I made was RAID 0 with two of the WD 80gb 8meg cache drives. I'm very satisfied with its overall performace but still not up to par with the 15k screamers available in the market. But buying 160gb of scsi disk is a small fortune...

 

[Protouringcars]

Fellas, i'm thinking of going with prometeia also, but tell me if i'm wrong.... according to benchmarks from anand, toms and sharky, overclocking can boost your fps up big time ( http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030210/barton-14.html ). I'm a bit confused here. I thought when gaming everything was pretty much handled by your graphics cards. Help me out here some. Thanks It looks like prometeia does a 800 to 1000 Mhz boost to all cpus! So seeing that amd has a 3000 out, I could easily go with a 2200 and clock that up to or over 3000 ! Despite not having the 512 cache onboard I think that would make the cpu just as valueable in some ways. I figured in getting the prometeia, the money I save in getting a 2200 and clocking it to a 3000 would be something like 597 (3000+) - 106 (2200+) = $491 savings! Almost paying for the prometeia!
Then when the 3000+ drops by 800 - 1000 Mhz, when amd releases a 3800 - 4000 +, the whole price depreciation thing would have happened again where the 3000+ would drop to something around 150 maybe....and the 4000 would be around $600... a savings of 450 bucks .... but then add on the 150 of the new proc (3000+) but then the credit of selling the old one... about 40 bucks ... .so all in all....I'd sorta gain 450 - 110 = 340... kinda... and that trend just keeps repeating until the prometia breaks or amd releases a new physical design not compatible with the prometeia. Everyone should go this route ... but then ... money doesn't grown on trees...thanks... some one get back on the whole graphics card thing though.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Protouringcars
Fellas, i'm thinking of going with prometeia also, but tell me if i'm wrong.... according to benchmarks from anand, toms and sharky, overclocking can boost your fps up big time ( http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030210/barton-14.html ). I'm a bit confused here. I thought when gaming everything was pretty much handled by your graphics cards. Help me out here some. Thanks It looks like prometeia does a 800 to 1000 Mhz boost to all cpus! So seeing that amd has a 3000 out, I could easily go with a 2200 and clock that up to or over 3000 ! Despite not having the 512 cache onboard I think that would make the cpu just as valueable in some ways. I figured in getting the prometeia, the money I save in getting a 2200 and clocking it to a 3000 would be something like 597 (3000+) - 106 (2200+) = $491 savings! Almost paying for the prometeia!
Then when the 3000+ drops by 800 - 1000 Mhz, when amd releases a 3800 - 4000 +, the whole price depreciation thing would have happened again where the 3000+ would drop to something around 150 maybe....and the 4000 would be around $600... a savings of 450 bucks .... but then add on the 150 of the new proc (3000+) but then the credit of selling the old one... about 40 bucks ... .so all in all....I'd sorta gain 450 - 110 = 340... kinda... and that trend just keeps repeating until the prometia breaks or amd releases a new physical design not compatible with the prometeia. Everyone should go this route ... but then ... money doesn't grown on trees...thanks... some one get back on the whole graphics card thing though.

Think of it this way. You've got an awesome speaker setup. Musta cost you well over $5,000 for everything but the receiver. You decide to go and get a bargain basement receiver for $150. Then you wonder why your system sounds decent, but can sound so much better. Now thin about the Processor being the receiver, and the video card being the floor standing speakers. You may have the best video card in the world, but unless you have a good, powerful system behind it, it can only do so much. A video card, this day and age, is basically a tiny computer in itself. Has a GPU as opposed to a CPU, its own RAM and everything. But it still needs something to process the information and send it to the video card. Video cards are capable of doing insane things, moreso that their true potential is being help back by CPUs most of the time. Thats why theres such a big performance increase when overclocking.

Now, getting back to your 2200 and 3000 business. 3000 and 2200 are actually PR ratings, meaning that they are not actual clock speeds. The 3000+ only runs at 2.16ghz and the 2200+ runs at 1.8ghz. Many people are having great success overclocking the 2100+ Tbred Bs. With the Prometeia cooler, you should be able to get the Tbred B up to at least 2.5ghz, which is well over the 3000+ PR rating (don't really know how well it will do PR wise, probably 3400+?)

 

[Protouringcars]

Sweet ~ Thanks for the info ! Prometeia it is then ! I was really debating whether to keep my 1800+ XP and buy a killer video card OR keep the cpu and my elsa gladiac 920 but find some other solution that would bring up my fps in 3d games. So in looking at all the benchmarks on the 9700 and other cards I noticed the fps went up big time in many circumstances where an 800 - 1000 Ghz processor speed difference was the only factor that was different outside of the whole picture. That's what led to the whole confusion about how does a processor weigh in so heavily on fps performance... and then my eventual search for cooling solutions so that I don't go broke buying the top of the line processor, but can still enjoy top of the line performance in an overclocked package...basically what prometeia is offering. I appreciate the feedback which has cleared up the fog. If there was a particular website that went into this issue in depth, I would be extremely pleased if you left a link or two.... or three. Thanks for you time and feedback. Very much appreciated.

 

[wicktron]

Good choice with the Prometeia
Hope you have fun with your system.

 

[Protouringcars]

It shall be fun ! I'm wondering if I should switch out all my athlon stuff and go pentium or celeron. I'm on a budget outside of the prometeia system. Going celeron would fit the bill and also going with a mobo that has a 533 FSB bus and maybe a decently priced dual channel DDR chipset for future upgrades. All the E7205 mobos cost an arm and a leg for something which is only going to be a matter of time before it drops in price. Mainly I just want to keep what features I have with my Nvidia Nforce1 chipset (dual memory banks), but I want to also bump the performance of my system up by preparing for a cpu with a 533 FSB (buying a mobo that supports 533Mhz)....when prices drop. What's your opinion? Thanks ~

 

[Protouringcars]

Doh ~ I just checked out the celeron benchmarks in the areas of what interests me most (3d acceleration).... I'm sticking AMD. Best way to look at it....Intel's fastest processors are definitely on top but barely when comparing to AMD's fastest (in overall benchmarking). I'm looking at 3d gaming (what amd does well in) , not rendering (what intel does very well in). Buying an XP by AMD is actually cheaper (barely) than buying a celeron by intel, and the thing performs better in 3d mark by 2500 - 3000 pts. Decision made. I don't want to go back down in performance lol. Sticking to the guys in green till i'm outta college and can afford the guys in blue's top of the line.

 

[Protouringcars]

Know that www.iceepc.com sells the prometeia in a topless form just like hardware gods.... but icepc is better because:

1) I didn't have browser ordering trouble like I did with hardwaregods.net

2) They offer the white version instead of just the black. white = cheaper on your ... and paying 4 bucks for paint....now that's worth it. hwgods blk = 630 bucks ! iceepc.com blk = 620 The big kicker is this.... Iceepc.com offers the white case as mentioned above for 580 bucks ! If you go with hardware gods you're forced to get the blk case for 630 !

Thanks