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Chip-based challenge to a car's spinning camshaft

tontod

Diamond Member
Read this article in the New York Times, found it interesting. It says that the camshafts in cars and even the spark plugs could be gone in the near future:




A Chip-Based Challenge to a Car's Spinning Camshaft
By IAN AUSTEN


F Henry Ford could see the engines now made by the company he founded 100 years ago, he would probably be puzzled by the electronics that control many operations. But the mechanical system operating the valves that bring fuel and air into the engine and let out exhaust would be very familiar.


As in Ford's time, those spring-loaded valves are opened and closed by cams, precisely shaped bumps of steel spinning along a rotating shaft.

But some automotive researchers are working on ways of making mechanical valve controls as obsolete as the Model T Ford. Operating the controls electronically could improve fuel efficiency, reduce emissions and perhaps even eliminate the need for spark plugs in gasoline engines.

The demise of the camshaft would also be welcomed by companies that make electronic parts for cars. "We'd really like to see this technology come along because it requires a huge use of semiconductors," said Ray Cornyn, the manager of Motorola's microcontroller division in Austin, Tex., which supplies the auto industry.

Over the years, electronics have been more of a boon than a threat to camshafts. Computer-controlled manufacturing systems and computer-based designs have improved the quality of camshafts while reducing the cost of their manufacture. But in concept, camshafts remained relatively unchanged from the era of Ford's first assembly lines.

Today it is common for each cylinder of a car's engine to have two pairs of intake and exhaust valves, with each pair sharing a cam on the camshaft. The camshaft is set spinning by a rubber belt or steel chain connected to the engine's crankshaft, the component that ultimately provides the power to the car's wheels. As the camshaft rotates, the high point of each cam first presses against a spring-loaded lifter of an intake valve, gradually opening it, and then closing it as the cam's low side approaches. As it continues to revolve, the high part of the cam repeats the process for the paired exhaust valve.

When Siemens VDO Automotive, in partnership with BMW, built a prototype camless engine four years ago, it came up with a three-part system. In place of cams it used solenoids, electromagnetically controlled plungers that are already widely used in cars for things like electric door locks.

While an electronic valve control system doesn't need mechanical power from the crankshaft, it does need to know what the crankshaft and the pistons driving it are doing. In a normal car, the belt or chain that connects crankshaft to camshaft ensures proper timing; that is, no valve remains open when its cylinder's piston is at the top of its travel. Such a situation would seriously damage a motor.

In its camless version, Siemens prevents such mistiming by using sensors that detect the position of the crankshaft and thus the pistons. Finally, the new engine was given yet another powerful computer to make sure everything works in sequence. "When an eight-cylinder engine with four valves per cylinder is running at 6,000 r.p.m. there's a lot to do," said Michael Gauthier, director of corporate technology in Siemens's automotive division.

The prototype engine was installed in a 3-series BMW sedan. It worked but had several significant shortcomings. For one thing, the solenoids and the additional computer power taxed the car's already overburdened electrical system. Mr. Gauthier said that cars would have to make a long-awaited move to 42-volt electrical systems (from the current 12 volts) before electronic valve control would be practical.

For car makers, the system's least attractive aspect was its price relative to camshafts. And there was a problem that made the engine unattractive to buyers, particularly those who associate BMW with smoothly running engines. As anyone who has opened a car with electric locks knows, solenoids are far from silent. "I saw the vehicle, and all you heard when it was running was slap, slap, slap," Mr. Gauthier said.

Motorola believes that the control computer could be programmed to soften and quiet the action of the solenoids. Other electronic valve-control designs have relied on different parts to push the valves open.

A device that used piezoelectric crystals, which produce electricity when bent, was quiet and cut the power burden. But current piezoelectric devices must be about 8 to 10 inches high to operate engine valves. The result, Mr. Gauthier said, is an engine "that looks something like a porcupine" and will not fit under the hood of most cars.

There are several incentives for trying to perfect electronic valves. Among other things, it would allow engines to reduce their power after getting a car up to speed, an easy way to save fuel. "About 90 percent of the time you need about 20 percent of the engine's output," Mr. Gauthier said. "It's extremely wasteful to put a 200-horsepower engine in a car when you only need 40 horsepower most of the time."

But some car makers have already found several ways to achieve that goal mechanically. Some engines have camshafts that can be raised or lowered between two positions to adjust the valve openings. A more sophisticated system from BMW can make a wider range of valve adjustments to reduce or boost power.

Because of those mechanical advances and the cost issue, Zoran Filipi, an associate research scientist and the assistant director of the University of Michigan's automotive research center, said that electronic control would probably become widespread only if it could change the way engines operate.

A potential way to reduce emissions and improve economy in gasoline engines would be to eliminate spark plugs and, like a diesel engine, ignite fuel through the compression of pistons. Such engines, however, would only be cleaner if they used a carefully blended fuel mix injected at the last moment. Dr. Filipi said that electronic valves might be an effective way to control the engines' operation.

The biggest hurdle for electronic valve controls may be that when it comes to auto parts, age does have its advantages, said Dr. Filipi. "Over the last 100 years or so we've perfected camshaft technologies," he said.


What do you guys think? I wonder how much fuel efficiency would be improved.
 
If you ask me, components should reamin mechanical. Electrical systems just make cars more and meore expensive to repair.
 
Originally posted by: ItTheCow
If you ask me, components should reamin mechanical. Electrical systems just make cars more and meore expensive to repair.

Agreed. Besides, whens the last time you had to replace a camshaft (Under normal use conditions) versus whens the last time you had a lock problem? What happens when your battery dies? I love electronics, but I get leary of them in certain applications..... They better make damn sure the solenoids wont fail and if they do the engine can shut down the cylinder and throw an error code so you get to the shop. Imagine it stuck open or closed.....
 
In its camless version, Siemens prevents such mistiming by using sensors that detect the position of the crankshaft and thus the pistons. Finally, the new engine was given yet another powerful computer to make sure everything works in sequence. "When an eight-cylinder engine with four valves per cylinder is running at 6,000 r.p.m. there's a lot to do," said Michael Gauthier, director of corporate technology in Siemens's automotive division.

And when that positioning sensor fails, instead of just a broken part, you now need AN ENTIRE ENGINE. These things would have to be incredibly reliable to replace a belt or chain driven camshaft. People don't like it when their engines destroy themselves.
 
Originally posted by: Triumph
In its camless version, Siemens prevents such mistiming by using sensors that detect the position of the crankshaft and thus the pistons. Finally, the new engine was given yet another powerful computer to make sure everything works in sequence. "When an eight-cylinder engine with four valves per cylinder is running at 6,000 r.p.m. there's a lot to do," said Michael Gauthier, director of corporate technology in Siemens's automotive division.

And when that positioning sensor fails, instead of just a broken part, you now need AN ENTIRE ENGINE. These things would have to be incredibly reliable to replace a belt or chain driven camshaft. People don't like it when their engines destroy themselves.

This happens all the time with current technology. Any engine with a timing belt is at risk to have it break and destroy the head and pistons. That is why it is very very important that you change the timing belt at the proper intervals, don't let a 10 dollar belt destroy your 2500 dollar engine.

 
It is old technology, Ford has been developing this type of engine since the mid 80's and came to the same conclusion.

Powercells are a better solution to increasing vehicle efficiency.
 
The #1 problem with replacing the cam/lifter/spring assembly with a solenoid is reliability. That solenoid will have to operate millions of times in it's life time and never fail. It's a pretty hard thing to ask.
 
Originally posted by: Quixfire
It is old technology, Ford has been developing this type of engine since the mid 80's and came to the same conclusion.

Powercells are a better solution to increasing vehicle efficiency.

What is a powercell? Are you reffering to fuel cells?

 
Originally posted by: Quixfire
It is old technology, Ford has been developing this type of engine since the mid 80's and came to the same conclusion.

Powercells are a better solution to increasing vehicle efficiency.


Cadillac had a version of this in the mid 70's with their V8-6-4. It was a piece of crap.

I realize that this is not the exact same thing, but if the manufacturers can get this right, they can vary valve timing to be as agressive as a full race engine to as docile as Grandma's Honda.
 
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Quixfire
It is old technology, Ford has been developing this type of engine since the mid 80's and came to the same conclusion.

Powercells are a better solution to increasing vehicle efficiency.


Cadillac had a version of this in the mid 70's with their V8-6-4. It was a piece of crap.

I realize that this is not the exact same thing, but if the manufacturers can get this right, they can vary valve timing to be as agressive as a full race engine to as docile as Grandma's Honda.

Camless engines are new technology, and only recently have been able to be sized where they can fit regular passenger cars. What you are reffering to just turns off cylinders to save gas if I remember correctly.

 
Originally posted by: BadgerFan
Originally posted by: jemcam
Originally posted by: Quixfire
It is old technology, Ford has been developing this type of engine since the mid 80's and came to the same conclusion.

Powercells are a better solution to increasing vehicle efficiency.


Cadillac had a version of this in the mid 70's with their V8-6-4. It was a piece of crap.

I realize that this is not the exact same thing, but if the manufacturers can get this right, they can vary valve timing to be as agressive as a full race engine to as docile as Grandma's Honda.

Camless engines are new technology, and only recently have been able to be sized where they can fit regular passenger cars. What you are reffering to just turns off cylinders to save gas if I remember correctly.

I realize that it was not camless technology, I was just trying to make a point that manufacturers have been experimenting with cam solenoids for a long time and they have been a dismal failure.

 
Lotus pioneered electro-magnetic cams and used it in some of their F1 cars back in the '80s. However it was to complex to prove relialbe (if my memory serves right).
 
Vtech type technology has been successful, albeit they are usually controlled by a hydraulic system versus an electronic solenoid.
 
Back in the '30s-'50s (I forget the actual year) Scarab had a flat six with valves that operated via oil pressure. So a camless 4 stroke isn't new tech. Also, many 2 cycle engines are camless. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ItTheCow
If you ask me, components should reamin mechanical. Electrical systems just make cars more and meore expensive to repair.

Let me guess... you ripped out your electronic ignition module in your car and rigged in an old distributor with contact points.

Having a computer control your valves would be so much better than any mechanical device. You have so many more options if something fails. Generally, if something breaks in a mechanical system, the rest of the pieces keep moving as if everything was ok. When you have a computer controlled system, it can reconfigure things on the fly. We design flight controls systems like that. If one aileron locks up, we double the gain on the other one to compensate. In a mechanical system, you're sh** out of luck.
 
Originally posted by: propellerhead
Originally posted by: ItTheCow
If you ask me, components should reamin mechanical. Electrical systems just make cars more and meore expensive to repair.

Let me guess... you ripped out your electronic ignition module in your car and rigged in an old distributor with contact points.

Having a computer control your valves would be so much better than any mechanical device. You have so many more options if something fails. Generally, if something breaks in a mechanical system, the rest of the pieces keep moving as if everything was ok. When you have a computer controlled system, it can reconfigure things on the fly. We design flight controls systems like that. If one aileron locks up, we double the gain on the other one to compensate. In a mechanical system, you're sh** out of luck.

Gee, read much? You dont seem to have read ANY of this, to see what the possible problems are. This isnt an airelon we're talkin about, but a solenoid, which arent the most reliable things on the planet. Then figure out how many times it'd have to work, and how many per engine...
Your lookin at a recipe for disaster. Or at least a recipe for LOTS of repair work. Assuming current technology of course.

 
This sounds like something Honda would try to perfect. They'd call it e-VTEC or SuperVTEC or something funny like that. They're all bout making engines more efficient...
 
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