It just the dog's issue, why there is politics involved in this?? In America or any other rich (animal loving countries), the human way to kill inffected animal is to put it to sleep...through poison which is cost money...In China, these type of expense are not available, so one of the best way to kill them is to beat them. End/
What's the best way to kill a crazy chinamen who beats thousands of dogs to death with a club?
Should we use a humane method or not?
Should we use a humane method or not?
You used an offensive slur for Chinese people. I suggest you edit your post. And reconsider your priorities: people vs. animals.
Government/party = people in fascism. And many Chinese are very patriotic. Sorry, but your Western "values" do not apply.
LoL - Let's see what happens if you become a serious threat to the power brokers in this country and the system they have setup.
shira
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Why is selling dogs for food any worse than selling chickens, cows, fish, et cetera?
Why is using dog pelts for clothing any worse than using cowhide or sheepskin?
No animal should be made to suffer unnecessarily before it's slaughtered, but the principle of killing animals to feed and clothe humans is not controversial, unless you'r a PETA member.
GroundedSailor
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1 man with a few bullets is cheaper than 3 men with clubs - unless in China you can hire a person for the day for less than the cost of a bullet - and much more humans.
Like I stated earlier I don't have a problem with culling and killing the animals but as Shira posted, "No animal should be made to suffer unnecessarily before it's slaughtered".
And before you bring it up, China has plenty of guns - remember they have the largest standing army in the world.
Question ? Do you eat meat and have you visited a slaughter house ? Also what is worse ? Is killing an animal for public health reasons worse or killing an animal because you got bored of it as a pet ?
Oh and as for your gun theory please really think about it man. What happens if that guy misses the dog or if the bullet goes straight through the dog and ricochets all over the place ?
Originally posted by: thetonio
?We are urging everyone to actively boycott ? not a word we use lightly ? anything from China given the bludgeoning killing of thousands of dogs,? PETA President Ingrid Newkirk said.
That's a frivolous statement? You think attempting to stop a needlessly cruel, barbaric practice through economic sanction, the only way likely to work in this day and age with a country as large as china, is silly? How else is PETA supposed to fight back? Ask them politely? Invade? Man.
And your links do nothing to support your case, in my eyes. To wear fur and encourage the mass, and it is mass, slaughter of animals solely for the sake of fashion is the hight of idiocy. What's the point of it? So some douche next door or at the nightly dinner gathering will think you are more worthy of their attention simply because you have the resources to afford paying for someone else to kill an animal because you think wearing their treated skin makes you look "cooler"?
If mommy is stupid enough to think she is of more value more as a human being because she wears the fur of something the skitters across the ground in ever-dwindling numbers, junior is probably stupid enough that it would take something as graphic as that flyer to get them to snap out of the fatigued synapse-caused daze they perpetually plod around in, pausing only to open their mouth for the next hand fed opportunity they will inevitably be given.
My point? People are stupid, and you frequently have to wave something in their faces for a long time for them to recognize what it is you are trying to show them. PETA fights an uphill battle daily against the ignorant bliss that so permeated this world, attempting to get people to think. And so here I have attempted once more to show you what about your thinking is flawed, although I'll probably have to do it six or eight more times before you recognize what it is I am trying to show you.
5150Joker
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Why don't they at least use bullets to put the dogs down? That's a shitload more humane than clubbing them to death or are bullets suddenly too expensive for China?
Half Of US Fur Garments From Barbaric Chinese Farms http://www.rense.com/general63/baby2.htm
You must add to the list of "fur farms" that of dogs bred for their "fur" in China.
So there they are in China breeding hundreds of thousands of "fur farm dogs" while at the same time brutally attacking hundreds of thousands of domesticated dogs.
Awhile ago there was a video on the internet of "fur farm dogs" being transported to a fur garment factory packed tightly in wire mesh crates being thrown off the tops of tall stacks of other crates on the back of trucks. Product brought to market i guess. Nevermind they are living creatures that have been at the top of mankinds companion list for thousands of years.
Some of the thread-crappers who patrol our forum have been saying none of these things add up together or even matter. That's a load of crap.
Do some addition if you want to really understand China's dire situation. That is a Nation of horrors and brutality second to none in our World. A Nation with millions of decent human beings who are being forced to endure infinite barbarism. It's not a time to soapbox on China's evils, it's a time to plainly state them and then boycott the Regime there by stopping it's cash flow that enters there from the Western Nations. Dogs are not humans but they are no-less greatly loved. I expect to see a growing Worldwide outrage against China's current dog slaughters. That is real news to cover. Not just nothing of any consequence.
If they want our business they must meet some basic standards of decency. Which are really simple standards and not tough to understand. Saying that cruelty is just a part of the Chinese way of life so ignore it, ...is to ignore our own responsibility in this equation.
PETA is a nutcase organization which is better off ignored. They even complain about people who go fishing on a lake for something like perch or trout. Better organization exist that are not so radical.
You must add to the list of "fur farms" that of dogs bred for their "fur" in China.
So there they are in China breeding hundreds of thousands of "fur farm dogs" while at the same time brutally attacking hundreds of thousands of domesticated dogs.
Awhile ago there was a video on the internet of "fur farm dogs" being transported to a fur garment factory packed tightly in wire mesh crates being thrown off the tops of tall stacks of other crates on the back of trucks. Product brought to market i guess. Nevermind they are living creatures that have been at the top of mankinds companion list for thousands of years.
Some of the thread-crappers who patrol our forum have been saying none of these things add up together or even matter. That's a load of crap.
Do some addition if you want to really understand China's dire situation. That is a Nation of horrors and brutality second to none in our World. A Nation with millions of decent human beings who are being forced to endure infinite barbarism. It's not a time to soapbox on China's evils, it's a time to plainly state them and then boycott the Regime there by stopping it's cash flow that enters there from the Western Nations. Dogs are not humans but they are no-less greatly loved. I expect to see a growing Worldwide outrage against China's current dog slaughters. That is real news to cover. Not just nothing of any consequence.
If they want our business they must meet some basic standards of decency. Which are really simple standards and not tough to understand. Saying that cruelty is just a part of the Chinese way of life so ignore it, ...is to ignore our own responsibility in this equation.
PETA is a nutcase organization which is better off ignored. They even complain about people who go fishing on a lake for something like perch or trout. Better organization exist that are not so radical.
Severian
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Originally posted by: DaedalCipher
Originally posted by: thetonio
?We are urging everyone to actively boycott ? not a word we use lightly ? anything from China given the bludgeoning killing of thousands of dogs,? PETA President Ingrid Newkirk said.
That's a frivolous statement? You think attempting to stop a needlessly cruel, barbaric practice through economic sanction, the only way likely to work in this day and age with a country as large as china, is silly? How else is PETA supposed to fight back? Ask them politely? Invade? Man.
And your links do nothing to support your case, in my eyes. To wear fur and encourage the mass, and it is mass, slaughter of animals solely for the sake of fashion is the hight of idiocy. What's the point of it? So some douche next door or at the nightly dinner gathering will think you are more worthy of their attention simply because you have the resources to afford paying for someone else to kill an animal because you think wearing their treated skin makes you look "cooler"?
If mommy is stupid enough to think she is of more value more as a human being because she wears the fur of something the skitters across the ground in ever-dwindling numbers, junior is probably stupid enough that it would take something as graphic as that flyer to get them to snap out of the fatigued synapse-caused daze they perpetually plod around in, pausing only to open their mouth for the next hand fed opportunity they will inevitably be given.
My point? People are stupid, and you frequently have to wave something in their faces for a long time for them to recognize what it is you are trying to show them. PETA fights an uphill battle daily against the ignorant bliss that so permeated this world, attempting to get people to think. And so here I have attempted once more to show you what about your thinking is flawed, although I'll probably have to do it six or eight more times before you recognize what it is I am trying to show you.
Amazing how much the far-left animal rights groups sound like the far-right religious nuts, particularly the anti-abortion protesters. They're just so sure their perspective is the only correct one, and willing to resort to all kinds of forceful confrontations in order to make you see the error of your ways. Whether it's shoving posters of aborted fetuses in your face, or gory comics condemning you as a mass murderer for wearing fur, there's nothing useful in fundamentalism of any stripe, except to the believers. You can't just disagree, you must be ignorant. Only they can bring you enlightenment. :roll:
Renounce, heretics; so saith PETA.....
Eventually PETA will come out in favor of mass human apoptosis, since by breathing we systematically slaughter the smallest and most defenseless creatures, the microorganisms.
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