Chineese express interest in buying American Auto Industry

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Eeezee

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There's a chinese express right down the street from me, they serve great food

Do you like egg rolls?
 
Googer

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
There's a chinese express right down the street from me, they serve great food

Do you like egg rolls?
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Just bumped your post to a -1.
 
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Imdmn04

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First IBM Personal computers, then bidding for Unocal (got blocked by senate), now Chrysler.

China has slowly but surely creeped up on America.
 
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I don't get why we don't eliminate unions in the US. They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete. The Chinese can sell things for cheaper than it costs to manufacture in the US.
 
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0roo0roo

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eh, blaming the unions is silly, the us industry dug their own grave with an endless chain of horrible decisions. unions take whatever they can get when they have no faith in the leadership and think the ship is going down anyways.
 
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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
First IBM Personal computers, then bidding for Unocal (got blocked by senate), now Chrysler.

China has slowly but surely creeped up on America.
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Sure is Creapy.

 
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Chineese express interest in buying American Auto Industry
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So, I read the linked article, Googer, but I never did see anywhere within anything related to your sensationalist thread title. Just wonder where the Chinese interest in buying out the American Auto Industry was........all I saw was an article about Chrysler, not the American Auto Industry, and their financial problems of late. The entire article, about Chrysler's "sale", was speculation because of a statement from a corp. exec. responding to a question from a reporter. DaimlerChrysler came out stating there was no sale pending after rampant speculation from Uebber's comments.

Maybe it was this section:

There is also the possibility of a Chinese buyer interested in the Dodge and Jeep brands and wanting to make its mark on the American auto industry, he said.

But Phillippi and others are skeptical.

?I don?t necessarily think they would feel comfortable taking on the kind of union contracts that Chrysler, GM and Ford have to work under,? he said.

Charlie Hughes, former head of Mazda and Land Rover, agrees the Chinese are in no position to take over America?s third-largest automaker.

?The Chinese don?t have the technical capability nor the ability to sell cars the way the Chrysler team has,? said Hughes, who authored ?Branding Iron,? on the failing U.S. auto industry.

?The company being purchased would know more about what they are doing than the company purchasing them. When somebody outright buys you, they may have the money, but they don?t have the experience. It could be a very difficult business to manage,? he said.


But I guess you missed the bolded part above.

And Chrysler is not the American Auto Industry. Sorry.
 
Squisher

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Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't get why we don't eliminate unions in the US. They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete. The Chinese can sell things for cheaper than it costs to manufacture in the US.
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I guess because we're not supposed to be living in a totalitarian state.


I guess unions designed cars people didn't want to buy and made the poor business decisions that got the domestics in the position they're in.

With executive compensation dwarfing their previous levels and the levels of their foreign counterparts we could expect monies given back by the unions to be returned to the consumer...............NOT.


You'll see big changes in the next round of bargaining in 2008. I see health care, jobs banks being addressed.



And, I'm all for you being paid what a Chinese national gets to do your job. Tell me how that'll work out for you.
 
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mwmorph

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Originally posted by: herbiehancock
Chineese express interest in buying American Auto Industry
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So, I read the linked article, Googer, but I never did see anywhere within anything related to your sensationalist thread title. Just wonder where the Chinese interest in buying out the American Auto Industry was........all I saw was an article about Chrysler, not the American Auto Industry, and their financial problems of late. The entire article, about Chrysler's "sale", was speculation because of a statement from a corp. exec. responding to a question from a reporter. DaimlerChrysler came out stating there was no sale pending after rampant speculation from Uebber's comments.

Maybe it was this section:

There is also the possibility of a Chinese buyer interested in the Dodge and Jeep brands and wanting to make its mark on the American auto industry, he said.

But Phillippi and others are skeptical.

?I don?t necessarily think they would feel comfortable taking on the kind of union contracts that Chrysler, GM and Ford have to work under,? he said.

Charlie Hughes, former head of Mazda and Land Rover, agrees the Chinese are in no position to take over America?s third-largest automaker.

?The Chinese don?t have the technical capability nor the ability to sell cars the way the Chrysler team has,? said Hughes, who authored ?Branding Iron,? on the failing U.S. auto industry.

?The company being purchased would know more about what they are doing than the company purchasing them. When somebody outright buys you, they may have the money, but they don?t have the experience. It could be a very difficult business to manage,? he said.


But I guess you missed the bolded part above.

And Chrysler is not the American Auto Industry. Sorry.
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It's googer, he'd like to see every chinese person rot in hell.
 
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fitzov

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They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete.
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All the benefits American workers have are because unions got them one way or another.
Also, you can consider the millions the company pays CEOs as an expense
 
JulesMaximus

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That would be classic. Yes, your beloved Dodge Ram is made by a Chinese company! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!:laugh:
 
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SVT Cobra

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The chinese will dominate when they start offering their cars here. Even over Japanese cars, mark my words.
 
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Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't get why we don't eliminate unions in the US. They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete. The Chinese can sell things for cheaper than it costs to manufacture in the US.
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So you would support treating American workers like Chineese workers so you could save money when you buy a car.

That is the only way we will compete in the long run, so its settled.
 
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't get why we don't eliminate unions in the US. They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete. The Chinese can sell things for cheaper than it costs to manufacture in the US.
Click to expand...

I guess because we're not supposed to be living in a totalitarian state.


I guess unions designed cars people didn't want to buy and made the poor business decisions that got the domestics in the position they're in.

With executive compensation dwarfing their previous levels and the levels of their foreign counterparts we could expect monies given back by the unions to be returned to the consumer...............NOT.


You'll see big changes in the next round of bargaining in 2008. I see health care, jobs banks being addressed.



And, I'm all for you being paid what a Chinese national gets to do your job. Tell me how that'll work out for you.
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That is just blaming others for your problem. How? You might say. Why shouldn't the American unions workers be more productive or get trained for other technical skills so that they can move on in this economy. To me the union workers are just bunch of lazy a**es who had a secured jobs that they don't want to leave or ever go find another type of jobs.

Face it, globalization is going to happen rather you like it or not. Get an education or technical skills training so that you can compete with others in the world's economy. Don't be a lazy a** and sit around and blame the world's supply of cheap labors.

How many union workers are sitting in GM and Ford job banks and getting paid to do NOTHING?! Unions were formed to protect workers from poor work enviornment in the 1920s, when there were like 0 labor laws. Now we have laws and regulators that protect the average workers from being abuse....unions are no longer efficient in today's economy.

What I'm saying is, the U.S. economy has changed to adapt the world, but the union workers haven't.....
 
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Originally posted by: fitzov
They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete.
Click to expand...
All the benefits American workers have are because unions got them one way or another.
Also, you can consider the millions the company pays CEOs as an expense
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QFT
Your sig too ;)
 
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zoiks

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I'd be willing to take off one of those excess inventory cars for about half price.
 
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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Shawn
I don't get why we don't eliminate unions in the US. They are supposed to help the people, but all they are doing is putting tons of american companies out of business because they can't compete. The Chinese can sell things for cheaper than it costs to manufacture in the US.
Click to expand...

I guess because we're not supposed to be living in a totalitarian state.


I guess unions designed cars people didn't want to buy and made the poor business decisions that got the domestics in the position they're in.

With executive compensation dwarfing their previous levels and the levels of their foreign counterparts we could expect monies given back by the unions to be returned to the consumer...............NOT.


You'll see big changes in the next round of bargaining in 2008. I see health care, jobs banks being addressed.



And, I'm all for you being paid what a Chinese national gets to do your job. Tell me how that'll work out for you.
Click to expand...

That is just blaming others for your problem. How? You might say. Why shouldn't the American unions workers be more productive or get trained for other technical skills so that they can move on in this economy. To me the union workers are just bunch of lazy a**es who had a secured jobs that they don't want to leave or ever go find another type of jobs.

Face it, globalization is going to happen rather you like it or not. Get an education or technical skills training so that you can compete with others in the world's economy. Don't be a lazy a** and sit around and blame the world's supply of cheap labors.

How many union workers are sitting in GM and Ford job banks and getting paid to do NOTHING?! Unions were formed to protect workers from poor work enviornment in the 1920s, when there were like 0 labor laws. Now we have laws and regulators that protect the average workers from being abuse....unions are no longer efficient in today's economy.

What I'm saying is, the U.S. economy has changed to adapt the world, but the union workers haven't.....
Click to expand...


The U.S. economy is adapting to the detriment of the U.S. worker. It doesn't make sense to look at the GNP or overall profit, when the profits are being shared less and less with the American people.

The natural result of this trend is lowered employment, or a lowered standard of employment. Many former computer workers now work at Wal-mart or McDonald's. If that's what you want for our society, you're nuts. We have to find a way to usefully and productively employ people-- everyone who is willing to work hard-- or we have become an unfair society. Bye bye, government for the people.
 
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