China's homegrown CPU
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I heard the CPU is already on market for a price merely $2-$3.
It supports Linux but not Windows. The speed is about a Pentium II.
I'll definitely get one when I go back China next time.
Hope they can have the 2nd generation at the time and they can keep the price as now ...
It supports Linux but not Windows. The speed is about a Pentium II.
I'll definitely get one when I go back China next time.
Hope they can have the 2nd generation at the time and they can keep the price as now ...
Not that I totally disagree with you, but China has been switching to Linux for a while now. They even have their own Linux distribution, Red Flag Linux. Why sink money into development they dont need?
Then again, spending a little more money now on getting it fully x86 compatible might make debugging easier when bugs pop up...
squirrel dog
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China's decision to make their own CPU is actually a great idea for them. They are very supportive of using an open OS like linux and now with their own CPU, they can completely control how the information is processed. China is very restrictive on their computer use, so by controlling the OS for information and the CPU for processing the information, they can seriously clamp down on information they don't want people to get their hands onto.
Would anyone be surprised if China now made their own ethernet adapters?
vash
Would anyone be surprised if China now made their own ethernet adapters?
vash
Plus Linux is open source (free for most people if they want), and cheap CPU's will bring more accesibility to China in terms of computers/technology in general. Good for them I say.
I would not laugh at them just yet, in a few years they could be competing with Intel, they could produce chips at a very low price and flood the market for low end computers. who's to say what could happen in the next ten years.
BFG10K
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If you're trying to control something then using an open source OS like Linux is the last thing you want to do. If anything China should be using their own closed source and proprietary operating system. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole point of Linux is that it's open and anyone can do whatever they like with it.
Using an open source OS like Linux to control something seems like an oxymoron to me.
Originally posted by: vash
China's decision to make their own CPU is actually a great idea for them. They are very supportive of using an open OS like linux and now with their own CPU, they can completely control how the information is processed. China is very restrictive on their computer use, so by controlling the OS for information and the CPU for processing the information, they can seriously clamp down on information they don't want people to get their hands onto.
Would anyone be surprised if China now made their own ethernet adapters?
vash
Way to go, communist bastards.
looks like an integrated chip
Seams so unlikely the only cheap fabs where you could even cover costs of fabrication would be .25 micron tech.
I dunno I know CPUs are pretty complex but its not like you can easily engineer a chip to send info over the internet to what its doing. Its a pretty moot point if your talking security. Now if the US were to embargo China (which is extremely unlikely due to our dependence on them for cheap labor), but they are in the right area they could smuggle chips if they really wanted them. Via is right there they could have Via EPIAs in their tanks and junk.
Seams so unlikely the only cheap fabs where you could even cover costs of fabrication would be .25 micron tech.
I dunno I know CPUs are pretty complex but its not like you can easily engineer a chip to send info over the internet to what its doing. Its a pretty moot point if your talking security. Now if the US were to embargo China (which is extremely unlikely due to our dependence on them for cheap labor), but they are in the right area they could smuggle chips if they really wanted them. Via is right there they could have Via EPIAs in their tanks and junk.
China is doing this so they can further control their people by creating proprietary hardware and software (as mentioned before). Linux is perfect for them 'cause it's a proven platform (no/little R&D needed) and,as stated before, they made their own version. Even though it's "open source" $20 says the Red Flag Linux is controlled more tightly than Windows. And if you have internet access it wouldn't suprise me if it "phones home" everytime new software is installed and every "hack" or attempt "hack" to get into/change the OS to increase functionality.
Not to mention that the chip is going to be used in mobile phones and TVs (gee, I wonder why). Eh, the chinesse people have too much freedom anyway... :|
Lethal
Not to mention that the chip is going to be used in mobile phones and TVs (gee, I wonder why). Eh, the chinesse people have too much freedom anyway... :|
Lethal
i'd have thought china be doing it to reduce dependence on US for technology, for reduced cost alternative. control over it's citizens is a possibility but until i read theyve but a ickle modem on it, excuse me giving benefit over doubts. The control mentioned in the article is strategic, reduced reliance on western/US technology for the long term - not just to ensure supplies form domestic source but an alternative technology which is not necessarily limited/directed/controlled/whatever by western chips manufacturer's & governments.
if they dont need it x86 compatible, why bother. the speed is slow now, but give them some time.
GL ot em tbh, except with the possibly citizen control thing. Yet another sign of changes when you hear things like "It must be competitive and fit market needs."
if they dont need it x86 compatible, why bother. the speed is slow now, but give them some time.
GL ot em tbh, except with the possibly citizen control thing. Yet another sign of changes when you hear things like "It must be competitive and fit market needs."
Security is the No. 1 for the Chinese made CPU, Godson. There are millions of transistors on every chip. No one in China knows the functionality of each transistor in an Intel or AMD CPU, thus no one knows if there is any backdoor on the chip. Don't you think it's something terrible for Chinese government?
Another potentient security hole is Windows. Since it's not open source, who knows what's hidding inside the OS? So Linux is a much better choice than Windows for China.
As I know, it's not planned to compete with Intel market. However if they can really product in large quanlity, it may be a good news for Linux.
Another potentient security hole is Windows. Since it's not open source, who knows what's hidding inside the OS? So Linux is a much better choice than Windows for China.
As I know, it's not planned to compete with Intel market. However if they can really product in large quanlity, it may be a good news for Linux.
True, many world governments have been switching over to Linux (Germany comes to mind) for security reasons because of fear that Microsoft included "backdoors" in pcs for the Federal Government....
All I can say compeition promotes excellence...but within reason
IE: 50 differnt Os's would probably stifle growth more than anything.
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Many say that the NSA already has a backdoor in every windows since 95 osr2. I've looked into the issue myself and it does seem suspicious (the word "NSA key" appears in the windows encryption dll)
Wrong. The key here is China can now look at the entire contents of the OS, from the IP layer to scheduling, etc. There will be no question if there is a backdoor, hidden keys, tracking of a user, etc. Starting with linux and modding it for their needs will give them what they need: a stable OS that can handle what they want and the ability to write custom applications or modifications with the knowledge it will work 100% of the time because they have read the OS.
vash
hoho,I'm a chinese and i have to say our using computer is not as much restritive as you thought tough a few months ago www.google.com was temporaly shielded by the china goveronment. Here in Chian we can do almost everything as you do in the States. We can play games,watch movies,dispute political issues,even download porn clip from foreign sites. So generally speaking it's pretty free in china now.
Everyone has a conpiracy theory.
On the relative note, if it auto blocks some sites and doesnt show some good TV programming, there would be little reason for anyone to buy it. Its a market economy in China, and it has been for the last decade.
On the relative note, if it auto blocks some sites and doesnt show some good TV programming, there would be little reason for anyone to buy it. Its a market economy in China, and it has been for the last decade.
Everyone, I doubt if CPU will be able to selectively process data, like blocking website? When it's processing the data, will it be able to know it's to display a website, and the content of the website should not be showed? I think an OS may be able to do it, but not a CPU.
Exactly,the cpu now days is far less intelligent to do such task. Even the OS can not do it either(at least temporaly)
The GODSON's not designed for the public so there's no conflict between it and conventional cpu vendor like intel,amd,etc.
The GODSON's not designed for the public so there's no conflict between it and conventional cpu vendor like intel,amd,etc.
What about that thing (name escapes me at the moment) that M$ and AMD and Intel are doing? Its supposed to be anti-piracy in the hardware and software method...
Maybe that is why? Regardless it'd be cool to have one of those CPUs.
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