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China: up and coming economic powerhouse, or soon-to-be basket case?

glenn1

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From the Washington Post today no less.... could China be the next big player on the world economic scene to implode and cause a crisis, similar to Mexico a few years ago, or the "Asian contagion" of 1998?

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According to the Financial Times of London, Chinese Premier Zhu Rongji recently told a television audience in his country that the Chinese economy would have "collapsed" in 1998 without the state stimulus spending that is currently taking Beijing's government debt to record-high levels. Zhu Rongji is someone who chooses his words carefully, which makes the term "collapse" alarming, although not perhaps, in retrospect, surprising.

Officially, China has for some time been claiming growth rates of 7 percent or more. But information casting doubt on those figures has long been available. Visitors see lots of rural people camped out at urban railroad stations or on sidewalks: Clearly they have nothing to do where they come from, or where they have arrived. Block after block of abandoned construction projects in cities suggest someone has run out of money (as does the recent proposal that money be raised for the Three Gorges Dam by selling stock). Almost daily protests by workers, many violent, are also a clue that all is not well.

Moreover, even the official figures don't make sense: How can it be that energy use is falling in a booming economy? And unemployment rising (as the official statistics show)? This is unprecedented in economic history. Finally, the state borrowing for pump priming to which Premier Zhu refers has always been public knowledge. Why, if the economy is burning up the track, has stimulus been necessary?

Once again Chinese officialdom has put one over on Western observerdom. The shining exception is Prof. Thomas Rawski of the University of Pittsburgh, who over the past year or so has been making thoroughly empirical and highly persuasive presentations across the United States on China's economy, based entirely on open Chinese sources, comparisons with other fast-growing economies and some solid economic analysis. He argues that China's economy may actually have been contracting since 1998.



 
Whether it happens in the next 5 years, or the next 25, there is little doubt in my mind that China will be the next mega-economy.
 
Interesting. The "too big for their britiches theory" 😀

Its more likely true that it will be some time for China to get its enormous population into the 1st world only a small minority of its populations enjoys.

It will probably come down to how eventful the Chinese Revolution will be when it comes and how far China decides to expand into the sphere of influence in Asia.

Two major targets of Conflict will be the islands rich in oil off the coast of India and Tiawan.



 
China's playing it safe, and the CCP - whether it wants to admit it or not, is inching its way toward oblivion. There's no heading back as far as Communism is concerned.

As for the unemployment, - yeah I'm not surprised. The vast majority of Chinese live in rural areas which were never part of any economic growth China's had. But many of them migrate into the city hoping for work - and even if all you get is five hours of hard labor a week you'll make more than you would farming there by hand.

In addition, as city workers were invariably working for state-own enterprises which have mostly collapsed, there's no sure source of work these days. You must produce your own goods or work for someone who does, or work for the government... And all those are scarce compared to the number of people looking for work.

The situation can only get better, but it won't happen overnight.
 
China will never be a "rich" country as we know it. It has started far too late in the game to achieve this. While some may attain wealth, the vast majority will remain as they are. I've even seen it reported that Chinese leadership pretty much knows that it will never attain wealth without a violent means. Maybe that can explain why China has been encouraging unprecedented levels of nationalism over the past 10 years. They'll be like Germany before WW2 (that might be why they're trying to appease them with the Olympics).
 
What few are talking about these days is the horrendus HIV/AIDS problem in China. Because of social tabos that discourage condoms, it's nearly out of control and threatens all aspects of society.
 
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