Does China come up with any of it's own technological accomplishments? Or does it backward engineer everything? Is there anything China has come up with on it's own?
China engineering?
- Thread starter RichardE
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Probably not much as a nation, since they're more into manufacturing than R&D. But a large proportion of the 'American' engineering are done by Chinese living in America anyways.
DivideBYZero
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Before developing your own you first need to catch up with the other leading nations fundamental technological level while developing institutions of your own to expand on it after - both of those things take a little while doing...
Hard to tell what China does. They tend to be very self centered. Cant tell what the communist mind is up to in China. I dont think they really lack the education. Many of their people go to the same universities here in the US and abroad. Since the government provides the direction on the technology, that might be the main problem with China. Their is no real competition and thus there is no innovation. They are still trying to build a dam with hardly no heavy equipment, yet they want to send astranauts into space. They just approach things differently.
They built their own F-16
They copied it from the U.S
They also built their own M-16
They copied it from the U.S
I think any nation that can copy the F-16 is heading in the right direction.
Soon they will make their own jets.
They copied it from the U.S
They also built their own M-16
They copied it from the U.S
I think any nation that can copy the F-16 is heading in the right direction.
Soon they will make their own jets.
CaptnKirk
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The Chinese J-10 (Export F-10) was a reverse engineering 'Theft' of design from a early model F-16 that
Pakistan provided to the Chinese. They didn't exactly design or copy, they just took one apart and replicated it.
Also heavy reliance on Isreal (the traitors) and Russia to provide Avionics Electronics and Engines.
techs
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The engine for technological advancement is still primarily in the US, Europe and some asian counries like Japan and S. Korea.
However, China is making some tech advances.
They are massively increasing he size and quality of their engineering university programs and will do better in the future.
In fact the sheer size of Chinas population wil eventually give them a far larger pool of engineers and scientists and all else being equal they should overtake the smaller countries at some point.
However, China is making some tech advances.
They are massively increasing he size and quality of their engineering university programs and will do better in the future.
In fact the sheer size of Chinas population wil eventually give them a far larger pool of engineers and scientists and all else being equal they should overtake the smaller countries at some point.
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I don't think so, chief.
LOL somebody feeling threatened? Go into any R&D or engineering lab, and you're going to see LOTS of asians there, including Chinese.
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
LOL somebody feeling threatened? Go into any R&D or engineering lab, and you're going to see LOTS of asians there, including Chinese.
Your going to see alot of white people too...
I have stock in the Chineses company, SunTech Power Holdings. The make solar cells and have heavy investments in R&D.
How accurate is that website?
it claims the jet has technology from Israel
Pakistan ordered like 100+ of these jets.
I read a very ironic quote from VW's CEO from 1995, where by he says (and I paraphrase). "The chinese may be great at copying and producing simple things like CD players, but a car is too complex for that to happen".
Well, fast forward 10 years and you see VW losing massive market share to dozens of Chinese auto companies that have copied numerous designs.
On to the question of designs, my answer would be this: while they do very little on their own today, once they have mastered manufacturing the next step would be to design their own things.
So while they design very little on their own today, I highly doubt that will stay the same 10 to 15 years from now. After all, every other "asian tiger" has followed this process, so it'll be very hard for someone to convince me that the Chinese are somehow so fundamentally different from the Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese etc, that manufacturing will be the end of their progress.
Well, fast forward 10 years and you see VW losing massive market share to dozens of Chinese auto companies that have copied numerous designs.
On to the question of designs, my answer would be this: while they do very little on their own today, once they have mastered manufacturing the next step would be to design their own things.
So while they design very little on their own today, I highly doubt that will stay the same 10 to 15 years from now. After all, every other "asian tiger" has followed this process, so it'll be very hard for someone to convince me that the Chinese are somehow so fundamentally different from the Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese etc, that manufacturing will be the end of their progress.
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
LOL somebody feeling threatened? Go into any R&D or engineering lab, and you're going to see LOTS of asians there, including Chinese.
Your going to see alot of white people too...
Did i say otherwise?
I work in an R&D engineering lab. My advisor is an Indian. We have one American and one Chinese chemist in our lab. Both engineers are Americans, including myself.
Sure there are lots of Asians, but there are a lot more Indians than Chinese (by at least 4:1). I'm in graduate school for engineering, which has a much higher fraction of Asians than does industrial engineering. Extrapolate that, noting that there are about 40,000 bachelors in chemical engineering graduating each year and about 650 PhDs in chemical engineering. Very few undergrads are from Asia (2 out of 160 here, 0 out of 145 at my undergrad institution). Therefore, your assertion that "a large proportion of the 'American' engineering are done by Chinese living in America anyways" is simply false. Even though we have about 6-7 Chinese PhD students, none of them has stayed/plans on staying here after graduation. Most of them can't even if they wanted to for a variety of reasons. Bottom line: I'm not the one out of touch here, and I'm certainly not threatened by the 'large proportion of Chinese' doing all our engineering, especially since I don't know a single Chinese engineer in industry here in the US.
China led the world in engineering thousands of years ago. Maybe engineering is not the right word, but they did come up with some great inventions. Even pizza might have come out of China
Today, and for the past thousand years, there is too much government control to promote any innovation and fresh thinking. You certainly have a lot of bright Chinese, but many simply cannot do much. You do have the scientists working for the Chinese government that are making some progress, but imagine if China was a free country, mostly politically. You would see great things come out of it.
I also would like to see the Indian government release its control over the economy and elsewhere, which it has been doing for the past few years.
Today, and for the past thousand years, there is too much government control to promote any innovation and fresh thinking. You certainly have a lot of bright Chinese, but many simply cannot do much. You do have the scientists working for the Chinese government that are making some progress, but imagine if China was a free country, mostly politically. You would see great things come out of it.
I also would like to see the Indian government release its control over the economy and elsewhere, which it has been doing for the past few years.
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