China cracks down on gamers!

[Malladine]

"China has started to crack down on long online gaming session by taking away experience and weapons from characters. Eleven online games are affected, including the popular World of Warcraft from Blizzard Entertainment based in Irvine California. The government wants players to take at least a two-hour break between sessions and says this will prevent gaming addiction.

Players who continue after three hours will lose experience points and weapons from their characters. The harshest penalty is for people who play beyond five hours - They will cut the character's level to the lowest possible. It's unknown whether these penalties are permanent."

So the Chinese Gov. has Blizzard GMs control Chinese players? Well. Ain't that interesting.

:Q

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[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: Malladine
"China has started to crack down on long online gaming session by taking away experience and weapons from characters. Eleven online games are affected, including the popular World of Warcraft from Blizzard Entertainment based in Irvine California. The government wants players to take at least a two-hour break between sessions and says this will prevent gaming addiction.

Players who continue after three hours will lose experience points and weapons from their characters. The harshest penalty is for people who play beyond five hours - They will cut the character's level to the lowest possible. It's unknown whether these penalties are permanent."

So the Chinese Gov. has Blizzard GMs control Chinese players? Well. Ain't that interesting.

:Q

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Better dead than red... I think that applies to this pretty well.

 

[Malladine]

heh, damn straight :beer:

 

[globalcitizen]

I don't get this. If you sit in front of a computer 24/7 playing games you will not be likely to do stuff against the government. I would think they would have liked that.

 

[Parkre]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: Malladine
"China has started to crack down on long online gaming session by taking away experience and weapons from characters. Eleven online games are affected, including the popular World of Warcraft from Blizzard Entertainment based in Irvine California. The government wants players to take at least a two-hour break between sessions and says this will prevent gaming addiction.

Players who continue after three hours will lose experience points and weapons from their characters. The harshest penalty is for people who play beyond five hours - They will cut the character's level to the lowest possible. It's unknown whether these penalties are permanent."

So the Chinese Gov. has Blizzard GMs control Chinese players? Well. Ain't that interesting.

:Q

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Better dead than red... I think that applies to this pretty well.

unless you respawn...oh noes

 

[CKent]

Interesting. I'm not getting my hopes up though; IGE will probably just employ fewer fulltimers and more parttimers. Can't even blame them, really. It's the undisciplined little brats who feel entitled to whatever they want in MMORPGs (with a little grease & oil from daddy's credit card) that I blame; they create the demand, thus are the root of the problem.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: RBachman
Interesting. I'm not getting my hopes up though; IGE will probably just employ fewer fulltimers and more parttimers. Can't even blame them, really. It's the undisciplined little brats who feel entitled to whatever they want in MMORPGs (with a little grease & oil from daddy's credit card) that I blame; they create the demand, thus are the root of the problem.

I have never purchased gold in my life, and that includes real gold. But anyway, the point is that I am not sure why people care so much... I guess I am pretty open minded on the issue and it goes like this.

If farms did not exist, then inflation would decrease. Now, that seems good, seems nice... But, not when you find that Krol Blade drop, instead of you being able to sell it by 500g and undercutting the gold sellers price of 800g, you now have to settle for selling the blade for 100g, because the economy is immature, so to speak. The problem with cheap items in AH is that it also makes several other things go for less in the AH and at some point, vendoring loot would be more of wise decision... That is just my take on it, just like house prices, everything is relative when it comes to buying and selling goods.

If a father of three works his job and spends time with his kinds and can only play WoW a few hours a night, why should he have to "grind" or "farm" for money just to get some decent gear? I see no problem with that situation... The father could neglict his kids and play the game 5 hours like a teenager will do, or he can just spend $50 for 500g and save himself 75 - 150 hours of grinding that can be better spent...

Besides, it should not affect hardcore gamers that do instances in any way... I mean, everything that you need is BoP and therefore, you shouldn't have to buy anything if you raid a lot, you know?

I have head that arguement that a new player will not understand the work that goes into getting gold and thus spend it wildly. But again, that is *his* choice... If he wants to spend $50 on gold to blow it all on one epic AH item, who am I to say he cannot do that?

This also is no different than the lottery... I remember reading a statistic (that is farily accurate) that nearly everyone who wins the lottery goes broke within 5 years of winning it... Does that mean that a business man in the game of life can whine and say "Those powerball gamers have no idea what it took to get that money, they should have be able to have it" Naw, it doesn't work like that in the game of life

I am nuetral on the subject though, I can just see all sides and this is JUST MY OPINION

:beer:

 

[Wag]

What I find really interesting is Blizzard allows them to do this rather then not selling the game in China at all.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: RBachman
Interesting. I'm not getting my hopes up though; IGE will probably just employ fewer fulltimers and more parttimers. Can't even blame them, really. It's the undisciplined little brats who feel entitled to whatever they want in MMORPGs (with a little grease & oil from daddy's credit card) that I blame; they create the demand, thus are the root of the problem.

I have never purchased gold in my life, and that includes real gold. But anyway, the point is that I am not sure why people care so much... I guess I am pretty open minded on the issue and it goes like this.

If farms did not exist, then inflation would decrease. Now, that seems good, seems nice... But, not when you find that Krol Blade drop, instead of you being able to sell it by 500g and undercutting the gold sellers price of 800g, you now have to settle for selling the blade for 100g, because the economy is immature, so to speak. The problem with cheap items in AH is that it also makes several other things go for less in the AH and at some point, vendoring loot would be more of wise decision... That is just my take on it, just like house prices, everything is relative when it comes to buying and selling goods.

If a father of three works his job and spends time with his kinds and can only play WoW a few hours a night, why should he have to "grind" or "farm" for money just to get some decent gear? I see no problem with that situation... The father could neglict his kids and play the game 5 hours like a teenager will do, or he can just spend $50 for 500g and save himself 75 - 150 hours of grinding that can be better spent...

Besides, it should not affect hardcore gamers that do instances in any way... I mean, everything that you need is BoP and therefore, you shouldn't have to buy anything if you raid a lot, you know?

I have head that arguement that a new player will not understand the work that goes into getting gold and thus spend it wildly. But again, that is *his* choice... If he wants to spend $50 on gold to blow it all on one epic AH item, who am I to say he cannot do that?

This also is no different than the lottery... I remember reading a statistic (that is farily accurate) that nearly everyone who wins the lottery goes broke within 5 years of winning it... Does that mean that a business man in the game of life can whine and say "Those powerball gamers have no idea what it took to get that money, they should have be able to have it" Naw, it doesn't work like that in the game of life

I am nuetral on the subject though, I can just see all sides and this is JUST MY OPINION

:beer:

What's your online gaming experience? I played EQ before IGE and their ilk realized what a profit they could make off of it. Sure, there were items & gold being exchanged, but on nowhere near the scale it happens today. I saw the game go through a lot of detrimental changes, some due to bad management, but others due to IGE, something SOE had no control over. Maybe if you weren't around when the genre was virginal & unplundered you just can't see the big picture. The exchange of gold and items for real money on a large scale ruins these games.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Wag
What I find really interesting is Blizzard allows them to do this rather then not selling the game in China at all.

Trust me, if nothing else, these companies WANT to be in the second largest ecomony in the world. You realize that China is the second largest everything to the US right now...including second largest buyer of oil. They're starting to buy up as many refineries in the US as possible too.....I certainly hope they don't succeed at that venture.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: RBachman
Interesting. I'm not getting my hopes up though; IGE will probably just employ fewer fulltimers and more parttimers. Can't even blame them, really. It's the undisciplined little brats who feel entitled to whatever they want in MMORPGs (with a little grease & oil from daddy's credit card) that I blame; they create the demand, thus are the root of the problem.

I have never purchased gold in my life, and that includes real gold. But anyway, the point is that I am not sure why people care so much... I guess I am pretty open minded on the issue and it goes like this.

If farms did not exist, then inflation would decrease. Now, that seems good, seems nice... But, not when you find that Krol Blade drop, instead of you being able to sell it by 500g and undercutting the gold sellers price of 800g, you now have to settle for selling the blade for 100g, because the economy is immature, so to speak. The problem with cheap items in AH is that it also makes several other things go for less in the AH and at some point, vendoring loot would be more of wise decision... That is just my take on it, just like house prices, everything is relative when it comes to buying and selling goods.

If a father of three works his job and spends time with his kinds and can only play WoW a few hours a night, why should he have to "grind" or "farm" for money just to get some decent gear? I see no problem with that situation... The father could neglict his kids and play the game 5 hours like a teenager will do, or he can just spend $50 for 500g and save himself 75 - 150 hours of grinding that can be better spent...

Besides, it should not affect hardcore gamers that do instances in any way... I mean, everything that you need is BoP and therefore, you shouldn't have to buy anything if you raid a lot, you know?

I have head that arguement that a new player will not understand the work that goes into getting gold and thus spend it wildly. But again, that is *his* choice... If he wants to spend $50 on gold to blow it all on one epic AH item, who am I to say he cannot do that?

This also is no different than the lottery... I remember reading a statistic (that is farily accurate) that nearly everyone who wins the lottery goes broke within 5 years of winning it... Does that mean that a business man in the game of life can whine and say "Those powerball gamers have no idea what it took to get that money, they should have be able to have it" Naw, it doesn't work like that in the game of life

I am nuetral on the subject though, I can just see all sides and this is JUST MY OPINION

:beer:

What's your online gaming experience? I played EQ before IGE and their ilk realized what a profit they could make off of it. Sure, there were items & gold being exchanged, but on nowhere near the scale it happens today. I saw the game go through a lot of detrimental changes, some due to bad management, but others due to IGE, something SOE had no control over. Maybe if you weren't around when the genre was virginal & unplundered you just can't see the big picture. The exchange of gold and items for real money on a large scale ruins these games.

I have played CoH, DAOC, Horizons, SWG and WoW. DAOC had the worst economy because I mostly played on their PVE server in which case money went nowhere, it just switched hands. So the servers inflation was insane... For instance, if something would generally sell for 100g was now in the 2-3 plat range 20-30 times more expensive... That was over a year ago and nothing has been done to remove gold from the economy... I bet it has inflated another 10X over.

WoW seems to be pretty decent for me though... I guess you could say I have had a great online experience.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Wag
What I find really interesting is Blizzard allows them to do this rather then not selling the game in China at all.

The ubiquitous "Chinese Farmers" we on American servers all know and love are mostly IGE employees farming gold on IGE-owned accounts. The average Chinese person doesn't have an American credit card and certainly isn't willing to shell out $15 US (a small fortune in China) per month to play a game. I believe Chinese folk who'd like to play WoW legitimately have servers specific to China, or at least east Asia (or a portion of it) - and would be hard-pressed to play elsewhere.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: Wag
What I find really interesting is Blizzard allows them to do this rather then not selling the game in China at all.

Trust me, if nothing else, these companies WANT to be in the second largest ecomony in the world. You realize that China is the second largest everything to the US right now...including second largest buyer of oil. They're starting to buy up as many refineries in the US as possible too.....I certainly hope they don't succeed at that venture.

China sure is growing... But, being that the whole world is watching them like I hawk, I doubt they will try anything. The world is becoming very allied, more than people would like to admit. Nothing can be done without someone else getting involved.

I guess what I do not undertsand is why people are not content with their borders... For instance, U.S. isn't out to take over Canada or Mexico... Yet other countries are waiting for the right time to invade others. *shrug* War is War and humans will be humans I suppose.

 

[Cheetah8799]

Honestly, I don't believe the article. Sure, China is nuts, but I'm going to have to see more reports from legit media sources before I believe it. And by legit I don't mean CNN, BBC. We know they won't touch it. I'm saying major gaming reporting sites that aren't just passing on second hand info. Maybe some quoted (translated) text containing chinese law.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I have played CoH, DAOC, Horizons, SWG and WoW. DAOC had the worst economy because I mostly played on their PVE server in which case money went nowhere, it just switched hands. So the servers inflation was insane... For instance, if something would generally sell for 100g was now in the 2-3 plat range 20-30 times more expensive... That was over a year ago and nothing has been done to remove gold from the economy... I bet it has inflated another 10X over.

WoW seems to be pretty decent for me though... I guess you could say I have had a great online experience.

You've played quite a few MMORPGs, certainly more than I have. But they're pretty much all newer ones that had IGE plying their trade in them from day one. It's like trying to describe rich, vibrant beautiful colors to a blind person (no offense intended).

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: RBachman
Interesting. I'm not getting my hopes up though; IGE will probably just employ fewer fulltimers and more parttimers. Can't even blame them, really. It's the undisciplined little brats who feel entitled to whatever they want in MMORPGs (with a little grease & oil from daddy's credit card) that I blame; they create the demand, thus are the root of the problem.

I have never purchased gold in my life, and that includes real gold. But anyway, the point is that I am not sure why people care so much... I guess I am pretty open minded on the issue and it goes like this.

If farms did not exist, then inflation would decrease. Now, that seems good, seems nice... But, not when you find that Krol Blade drop, instead of you being able to sell it by 500g and undercutting the gold sellers price of 800g, you now have to settle for selling the blade for 100g, because the economy is immature, so to speak. The problem with cheap items in AH is that it also makes several other things go for less in the AH and at some point, vendoring loot would be more of wise decision... That is just my take on it, just like house prices, everything is relative when it comes to buying and selling goods.

If a father of three works his job and spends time with his kinds and can only play WoW a few hours a night, why should he have to "grind" or "farm" for money just to get some decent gear? I see no problem with that situation... The father could neglict his kids and play the game 5 hours like a teenager will do, or he can just spend $50 for 500g and save himself 75 - 150 hours of grinding that can be better spent...

Besides, it should not affect hardcore gamers that do instances in any way... I mean, everything that you need is BoP and therefore, you shouldn't have to buy anything if you raid a lot, you know?

I have head that arguement that a new player will not understand the work that goes into getting gold and thus spend it wildly. But again, that is *his* choice... If he wants to spend $50 on gold to blow it all on one epic AH item, who am I to say he cannot do that?

This also is no different than the lottery... I remember reading a statistic (that is farily accurate) that nearly everyone who wins the lottery goes broke within 5 years of winning it... Does that mean that a business man in the game of life can whine and say "Those powerball gamers have no idea what it took to get that money, they should have be able to have it" Naw, it doesn't work like that in the game of life

I am nuetral on the subject though, I can just see all sides and this is JUST MY OPINION

:beer:

BoP +20> you

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I have played CoH, DAOC, Horizons, SWG and WoW. DAOC had the worst economy because I mostly played on their PVE server in which case money went nowhere, it just switched hands. So the servers inflation was insane... For instance, if something would generally sell for 100g was now in the 2-3 plat range 20-30 times more expensive... That was over a year ago and nothing has been done to remove gold from the economy... I bet it has inflated another 10X over.

WoW seems to be pretty decent for me though... I guess you could say I have had a great online experience.

You've played quite a few MMORPGs, certainly more than I have. But they're pretty much all newer ones that had IGE plying their trade in them from day one. It's like trying to describe rich, vibrant beautiful colors to a blind person (no offense intended).

Yeah, that is true, because I never did play any of the first MMO's, which were EQ and UO... Now that I think about it, I think DAOC was the third somewhat major player.

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Yeah, that is true, because I never did play any of the first MMO's, which were EQ and UO... Now that I think about it, I think DAOC was the third somewhat major player.

Pretty much yeah

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Wag
What I find really interesting is Blizzard allows them to do this rather then not selling the game in China at all.

$$$ > artistic integrity, I guess