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China copying cars now

Originally posted by: kdp
i must be missing the joke

You know how you go to the swap meet and there is always a guy selling bootleg cd's and DVD's? Sleeves and disklabels printed on his inkjet, the whole 9. In China that guy sells cars. Made in a factory.
 
The world auto giants was given sweetheart deals when they set up shop in mainland China in the 80's. Did they not foresee this coming from a goverment that has no respect for intellectual property rights?
 
Thats the Chinese way just ignore all Patents and Trademarks and let Chinese companies steal from everbody else. I do whatever I can to avoid buying anything from China or supporting them in any way. I don't think most Americans realize that China is the US's Biggest Enemy and it will only get worse as the years go by.
 
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Thats the Chinese way just ignore all Patents and Trademarks and let Chinese companies steal from everbody else. I do whatever I can to avoid buying anything from China or supporting them in any way. I don't think most Americans realize that China is the US's Biggest Enemy and it will only get worse as the years go by.

wow so many flamefest material just in 4 lines! where to start??

Ok I will bite

please explain why u think China will be the biggest US enemy?
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Thats the Chinese way just ignore all Patents and Trademarks and let Chinese companies steal from everbody else. I do whatever I can to avoid buying anything from China or supporting them in any way. I don't think most Americans realize that China is the US's Biggest Enemy and it will only get worse as the years go by.

wow so many flamefest material just in 4 lines! where to start??

Ok I will bite

please explain why u think China will be the biggest US enemy?

probably because the chines ignore patents and trademarks
 
Originally posted by: kdp
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Thats the Chinese way just ignore all Patents and Trademarks and let Chinese companies steal from everbody else. I do whatever I can to avoid buying anything from China or supporting them in any way. I don't think most Americans realize that China is the US's Biggest Enemy and it will only get worse as the years go by.

wow so many flamefest material just in 4 lines! where to start??

Ok I will bite

please explain why u think China will be the biggest US enemy?

probably because the chines ignore patents and trademarks

i'm asian, and i view china as our biggest enemy. commercially, economically, and ideologically, they ARE OUR NO. 1 ENEMY. i agree
 
jeez... rival is a better sounding word than enemy.

Al Queda is US enemy, also north korea... but China is a economic rival..
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
jeez... rival is a better sounding word than enemy.

Al Queda is US enemy, also north korea... but China is a economic rival..



So we should forget about China aggression towards Taiwan.
 
What I am wondering is, people don't buy the CRV for the look. They buy it for the reliability. Boring Honda look with no Honda reliability sounds like the worst of both worlds to me.
 
Originally posted by: z0mb13
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Thats the Chinese way just ignore all Patents and Trademarks and let Chinese companies steal from everbody else. I do whatever I can to avoid buying anything from China or supporting them in any way. I don't think most Americans realize that China is the US's Biggest Enemy and it will only get worse as the years go by.

wow so many flamefest material just in 4 lines! where to start??

Ok I will bite

please explain why u think China will be the biggest US enemy?

He's mostly right. The chinese have no regard for trademarks, intellectual property, copyrights, etc. The chinese economy is not really like ours. Their businesses are largely funded by government loans. The government gives money and loans to causes it deems appropriate for their own economic development. This alone, even disregarding labor costs, enables many chinese companies to sell products at prices impossible for true private enterprises. Coupled with the fact that they won't hesitate to copy designs, processes, etc. The chinese will counterfeit basically anything. At first it was CDs and designer clothes. Nobody really cared about that. But how about Nike shoes? Cars? Computer chips?

You say that enemy is a harsh word. Let me ask you, let's say a company spends millions developing a product and puts it to market. A chinese company copies it and undercuts the price because they don't have to recoup their R&D cost. When the original company loses business and profits, causing layoffs, wouldn't you say that harm was done to the workers who now can't feed their families? Economic enemy seems to be a pretty accurate term.

I work for a pretty big company and maybe last week I was given training on trade secrets and intellectual property. If any US company took a competitor's product, reverse engineered it, copied it and then turned around sold it, this would be so illegal that the FBI would come out and personally shove the counterfeit products up the copycat's ass.

Some of the blame for this situation is actually our own fault. Because of our giant budget deficit/debt, we sell securities overseas which enables the chinese to peg their currency and give themselves yet another artificial advantage against our own companies. Politicians turn a blind eye because they keep buying our debt and allows the politicians to keep recklessly spending. Americans need to demand fiscal responsibility from their political leadership. And although boycotting chinese made goods in this day is basically impossible, know that the cheap consumer product you want to buy has a hidden extra cost that can in fact be very dear.
 
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