China becoming more strict on capital punishment?

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Maybe if we would stop filling the prisons within drug users, prostitutes and other perpetrators of victimless crimes, we wouldn't have that problem. The US creates new classes of criminals as fast as we can build the prisons to hold them.

A little known factor in this is the influence of the private prison industry, who profits from, and therefore government lobbies for, more and longer sentences.

Apparently we have about the highest rate of incarceration in the world, something a bit hard for the ideologues to explain.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Craig234
Out of respect for the value of human life, capital punishment should be abolished and regarded as barbaric history. We're among the last few nations in the world to do it and every time it's done, it's an immoral act.

Free food and shelter for violent criminals is the immoral act. Soon we will not be able to afford it, and maybe we'll just start letting them go instead. When a country fails to deal with criminals, it as a whole will become criminal.

Maybe if we would stop filling the prisons within drug users, prostitutes and other perpetrators of victimless crimes, we wouldn't have that problem. The US creates new classes of criminals as fast as we can build the prisons to hold them.

Yes, that does need to end.

 

[Enig101]

The death sentence should be confined to history books. Most of the civilized world no longer has the death sentence, as far as I know. Obviously these people should be locked up. It's a ridiculous argument to say that we should kill them so we don't have to pay to keep them imprisoned. You are putting a price on the life a human being? Regardless, the amount of money needed is hardly going to trouble the economy of an entire country.

 

[piasabird]

What about all the practicioners of Fulong Dong, which is a simple adherence to deep breathing and exercise. China rounded these people up and put them all in prison camps as political prisoners. Not only that, but they then proceeded to torture them to death and sell their body parts.

I would never call what the Chinese do Progressive, unless you are for torture, death, and suffering, of innocent people.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: piasabird
What about all the practicioners of Fulong Dong, which is a simple adherence to deep breathing and exercise. China rounded these people up and put them all in prison camps as political prisoners. Not only that, but they then proceeded to torture them to death and sell their body parts.

I would never call what the Chinese do Progressive, unless you are for torture, death, and suffering, of innocent people.

Falun Gong is not simply an adherence to deep breathing and exercise. It is also a religion (and a somewhat strange and racist and discriminatory one at that, or it used to be). However, they are extremely pacifistic, and torture and death is hardly something they deserve...

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Back on topic, if we're not going to go for capital punishment, we must make the prisoners part of the labor force so that they pay off and then some the food and shelter and clothing that we provide. Harm someone? Then you give up your rights as a free man and you'll essentially be treated as a slave. Wake up, work work work, eat, work work work, sleep, and in no way will you have any disposable income to spend on anything, which is the point of work in the free world. It will simply be subsistence work. The lawbreakers are used as essentially free labor.

Their labor should pay for the utilities of the prison, the salaries of the guards/directors, their food, their clothes, their shelter, the equipment that is employed to keep them working, essentially everything that is now their world. I think that only in this way will they no longer be a strain on society (barring an immediate death penalty of course).

If we are for the death penalty, and a quick one at that, we must make absolute certain that the person DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIME.

 

[KAZANI]

Honestly fuzzybabybunny, you should change your signature. You cannot love everyone and want some to be your slaves too!

 

[techs]

The Chinese leadership can best be understood as a street gang.
I have read a wonderful piece explaining that it is all about power in China. The leadership functions much like the leadership of the Crips and the Bloods.