Child porn amnesty: Hard drives to be turned in with no questions, like guns...

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Lifer
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The scheme, which would operate in a similar way to a gun amnesty, would aim to prevent child abuse by getting people who have images of children to volunteer for counselling.

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AnyMal

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that's just sickening.. I would love to ask whoever thought of this idiotic idea :"WTF were you thinking a$$hole?" :|
 

xeno2060

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
that's just sickening.. I would love to ask whoever thought of this idiotic idea :"WTF were you thinking a$$hole?" :|

Here here!!! You'd have to be sick a$$hole to have kind of cr@p on the ol'e HD:(

 
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Originally posted by: MAME
why wouldn't they just format it and run eraser or something?

because formating, unless you low-level with a SCSI drive, dos not destroy the information simply the FAT.

eraser doesn't work because of the size of sectors, so if a 1kb where in a sector that was set for 256kbs then the other 255kb that where kid porn can still be retrieved.

there are some programs that do better than others, but almost none do a good job of taking out the swap file from which massive amounts of information can be taken.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
that's just sickening.. I would love to ask whoever thought of this idiotic idea :"WTF were you thinking a$$hole?" :|

seems like a pretty fvsking good idea to me. Although with the following conditions I'm not sure why in god's name you would turn yourself in.

They would then be assessed by a psychiatrist and if, after appropriate treatment, were judged to be no risk to children, would be given a caution.

The men would still be placed on the sex offenders register, but would be spared the humiliation of a court appearance and a formal prosecution.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
as long as it included a second un-advertised part about castration.

Not like the peds couldn't go spend $20 on the FS forums here on a new hd and visit the same crappy child porn sites and fill it up again. :|
 

Squisher

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You don't have to visit child porn sites to have unintentionally viewed child porn on your computer and those files are at least temporarily in residence on your machine.

Given that half of all internet traffic is porn, that should add up to a lot of hard-drives. I hope they have a budget the size of the Pentagons.



 

DannyBoy

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I feel sorry for the people in police departments and what not that have to go through drives documenting this stuff.

I dont know if i could actually look at kiddy porn without going mentally nuts and throwing up.

Its sick and anyone who gets off on it deserves a serious fvcking beating :|
 

P.O.W.

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Yep turning in a hard drive with kiddie porn will certainly make these bastards stop desiring little children. Let them turn in thier HD, but no amnesty unless they agree to be castrated.
 

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: MAME
why wouldn't they just format it and run eraser or something?

because formating, unless you low-level with a SCSI drive, dos not destroy the information simply the FAT.

eraser doesn't work because of the size of sectors, so if a 1kb where in a sector that was set for 256kbs then the other 255kb that where kid porn can still be retrieved.

there are some programs that do better than others, but almost none do a good job of taking out the swap file from which massive amounts of information can be taken.
If I was into this stuff I would kill my HD before sending it in. You can't retrive data from a hardrive that's been put in a fire and thrown in the garbage.

No, the reason people would go for this is to either benefit from the counselling, or because they are scared that the authorities are already tracking them.

 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: AnyMal
that's just sickening.. I would love to ask whoever thought of this idiotic idea :"WTF were you thinking a$$hole?" :|

seems like a pretty fvsking good idea to me. Although with the following conditions I'm not sure why in god's name you would turn yourself in.

They would then be assessed by a psychiatrist and if, after appropriate treatment, were judged to be no risk to children, would be given a caution.

The men would still be placed on the sex offenders register, but would be spared the humiliation of a court appearance and a formal prosecution.


Be easier to take the old ball peen hammer to it, probably more fun as well. I doubt very seriously if anybody would turn themselves in given this...sort of like the RIAA turn yourself in idea..not very bright
 

GermyBoy

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Okay, I've heard about child porn for years. However, I need to clarify one thing...

Is it REAL children, like babies and under 12 and stuff where the kids probably don't know any better having sex with adults? This is just sick if this is the case.

OR is it like 17 year olds who had sex videos and stuff made and they are released and the people get charged with child porn? If you can't tell, then how do the police tell?

Any help with this clarification would be helpful. I'd look online, but I don't want to know if it's the first case...:(
 

virusag11

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Use a damn magnet to clean the drive and then turn it in, but I don't have any child porn so there isn't an issue. I don't think they'll do all that well because people know when and where the drive is so all they have to do is wait there and watch for people with computer HD.
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Okay, I've heard about child porn for years. However, I need to clarify one thing...

Is it REAL children, like babies and under 12 and stuff where the kids probably don't know any better having sex with adults? This is just sick if this is the case.

OR is it like 17 year olds who had sex videos and stuff made and they are released and the people get charged with child porn? If you can't tell, then how do the police tell?

Any help with this clarification would be helpful. I'd look online, but I don't want to know if it's the first case...:(

I don't know the answer to your question, but I know this. 2 years ago, some ATOTer was charged with this stuff. The cops sat down with the guy, and looked at every single image with him, criticizing each one, asking how old do you think she is, etc. Apparently, there was no lawyer present, and the cops were using their scare/intimidation tactics.

Now I don't know if the guy was just bluffing, or was only telling part of the story. He most likely went to a website by accident, which was being watched.
 
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Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Okay, I've heard about child porn for years. However, I need to clarify one thing...

Is it REAL children, like babies and under 12 and stuff where the kids probably don't know any better having sex with adults? This is just sick if this is the case.

OR is it like 17 year olds who had sex videos and stuff made and they are released and the people get charged with child porn? If you can't tell, then how do the police tell?

Any help with this clarification would be helpful. I'd look online, but I don't want to know if it's the first case...:(

What if when me and my girlfriend were both 17, we taped ourselves gettin' it on, and then we watched it later at 18? According to the laws, we're the same Sick Twisted Bastards that prey on children barely out of diapers (who BTW, should have their hands cuffed to their ankles and thrown into a lonely federal prison's shower)

- M4H
 

Ness

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Okay, I've heard about child porn for years. However, I need to clarify one thing...

Is it REAL children, like babies and under 12 and stuff where the kids probably don't know any better having sex with adults? This is just sick if this is the case.

OR is it like 17 year olds who had sex videos and stuff made and they are released and the people get charged with child porn? If you can't tell, then how do the police tell?

Any help with this clarification would be helpful. I'd look online, but I don't want to know if it's the first case...:(

What if when me and my girlfriend were both 17, we taped ourselves gettin' it on, and then we watched it later at 18? According to the laws, we're the same Sick Twisted Bastards that prey on children barely out of diapers (who BTW, should have their hands cuffed to their ankles and thrown into a lonely federal prison's shower)

- M4H


Yeah, when you think about it, it's kinda messed up that if I was 18, and my GF was 17, I could have sex with her in any and every way possible, get her pregnant, marry her (provided she had her parent's consent), but if I took a picture of her even just topless, it would be a felony.

I'm not saying that this situation happened, but this just kinda strikes me as funny.
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: ness1469
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: GermyBoy
Okay, I've heard about child porn for years. However, I need to clarify one thing...

Is it REAL children, like babies and under 12 and stuff where the kids probably don't know any better having sex with adults? This is just sick if this is the case.

OR is it like 17 year olds who had sex videos and stuff made and they are released and the people get charged with child porn? If you can't tell, then how do the police tell?

Any help with this clarification would be helpful. I'd look online, but I don't want to know if it's the first case...:(

What if when me and my girlfriend were both 17, we taped ourselves gettin' it on, and then we watched it later at 18? According to the laws, we're the same Sick Twisted Bastards that prey on children barely out of diapers (who BTW, should have their hands cuffed to their ankles and thrown into a lonely federal prison's shower)

- M4H


Yeah, when you think about it, it's kinda messed up that if I was 18, and my GF was 17, I could have sex with her in any and every way possible, get her pregnant, marry her (provided she had her parent's consent), but if I took a picture of her even just topless, it would be a felony.

Must...resist...urge to take this comment out of context and send to FBI... :evil: :D

Seriously though, this whole idea is stupid. As if this is going to stop a lot of these sick bastards (the ones who get off on pictures of toddlers, that is) from buying a new HD and going right back to what they were doing. Anyone who actually falls for this amnesty crap should be automatically castrated and thrown to the wolves in a Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass Prison.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Wow. I know these people are "monsters" but I think it just goes to show that society always wants a group of people to hate. There was a time when homosexuals were regarded in the same manner, so you have to wonder, what will happen in 50 years as our culture continues to liberalize? I would venture to guess that very few pedos actually ever have any illegal contact with children and would prefer to f@p away in the privacy of their home. Geez, that doesn't sound TOO different from the average ATOTer.