Chid labor . whats your stance?

[Nemesis 1]

My daughters company is contracting a RadaitorCompany to build Rads for PC. Their out of India . I worked with some of their stuff about 7 years ago it good stuff. I recently recieved a proto from them for testing real world. Its good fact I got excited . Gave them a call we made a deal . After another deal I been working finely happened. So next week she is going to fly out to india and sign contracts the min order is more than I wanted but $40 for unpainted 3x120 . I couldn't tell her No .Its a nice 2core setup with 11fpn. I told my daughter to tour the factory first . If she sees 1 child working . I told her to get on plane and come home . She agreeded . Do ya think were making the right decision.

 

[TallBill]

Define "child". Having a 13 year old work to support there family in a low income family isn't a bad thing if they are earning ok wages.

 

[pstylesss]

They let you have kids?

 

[Baked]

If they can walk, they need to work.

 

[Anubis]

if they are working voluntarily its fine

if they are forced its bad

 

[Tim]

Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Anubis
if they are working voluntarily its fine

if they are forced its bad

Great advice, now how the fuck do you get that information?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Anubis
if they are working voluntarily its fine

if they are forced its bad

Working voluntarily for lower wages than if they paid an adult is fine?

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I told my daughter to tour the factory first . If she sees 1 child working . I told her to get on plane and come home . She agreeded . Do ya think were making the right decision.

Yes.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

I don't get that at all.

 

[Babbles]

They work not because they want to, but because they need to. If you see child laborer working and you yank out your contract, then you effectively took food and water out of their mouth. Children work as a matter of life or death; they are truly poor over there, not American "poor."

If those kids can not have legit jobs such as the ones mentioned in the OP, then they may have to resort to more drastic options like drug trades and/or child prostitution.

Child labor is icky when you are sitting on your sofa in the US. Child labor is a necessity if it puts food in your stomach.

 

[So]

Topic Title: Chid labor . whats your stance?

Well, I think I speak for all of AT, when I say that I am decidedly PRO child labor. Those third world kids need to learn the value of a dollar, damnit!

 

[jlee]

ESL?

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

I don't get that at all.

You sure?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
My daughters company is contracting a RadaitorCompany to build Rads for PC. Their out of India . I worked with some of their stuff about 7 years ago it good stuff. I recently recieved a proto from them for testing real world. Its good fact I got excited . Gave them a call we made a deal . After another deal I been working finely happened. So next week she is going to fly out to india and sign contracts the min order is more than I wanted but $40 for unpainted 3x120 . I couldn't tell her No .Its a nice 2core setup with 11fpn. I told my daughter to tour the factory first . If she sees 1 child working . I told her to get on plane and come home . She agreeded . Do ya think were making the right decision.

Proof read, dude!

 

[StormRider]

You guys have to think about it from the perspective of a 3rd world nation. What is the difference if it's a family owned farm and the children are required to work (milking cows, cleaning stalls etc) compared to the child working in a factory to help support the family?

 

[waggy]

WTF was that?

in some areas if the kids were not working the family would not have enough money to survive. so in that situation then yes i am all for them working.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

What the Hell. I don't sell nothing to forum people . Ya just pissed me off big time. You read these forums theres more spam here than Hormel cans.

 

[Mo0o]

Tough situation. You would hope the the government would have a system in place where the adults of the family can earn enough to support teh family without having to use child labor. But if that kind of economy simply isnt available, some of teh older children inevitably have to enter the work force. Overall this is a terrible thing for the nation since it hinders education and advancement of the nation as a whole but its necessary in the short term so people dont starve to death.

 

[dakels]

Really, when do preteen's really decide for themselves to work voluntarily? In some way or form that decisions is most likely going to be chosen or greatly influenced for them. Why do some consider a 10 year old working on the family farm ok when the same 10 year old working in an urban knitting factory wrong? While I think most cultures are overprotective of their childrens liberties, youth labor laws need to be reasonable. Children over 12 needing to work 20 hours a week may be reasonable for impoverished families in certain areas. Children working 14 hour shifts while not attending school is an entirely difference arguement.

Overall, something needs to be done about parents bringing children into the world that they are unable to properly support. I think this child labor discussion has a lot of grey areas which get whitewashed. In general I am against child labor but on exceptions, I can understand it's need.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

What the Hell. I don't sell nothing to forum people . Ya just pissed me off big time. You read these forums theres more spam here than Hormel cans.

So I guess I'm now your nemesis?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: dakels
Really, when do preteen's really decide for themselves to work voluntarily? In some way or form that decisions is most likely going to be chosen or greatly influenced for them. Why do some consider a 10 year old working on the family farm ok when the same 10 year old working in an urban knitting factory wrong? While I think most cultures are overprotective of their childrens liberties, youth labor laws need to be reasonable. Children over 12 needing to work 20 hours a week may be reasonable for impoverished families in certain areas. Children working 14 hour shifts while not attending school is an entirely difference arguement.

Overall, something needs to be done about parents bringing children into the world that they are unable to properly support. I think this child labor discussion has a lot of grey areas which get whitewashed. In general I am against child labor but on exceptions, I can understand it's need.

yeah damn those poor areas not having a way to afford birth control pills, or condoms..

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Babbles
They work not because they want to, but because they need to. If you see child laborer working and you yank out your contract, then you effectively took food and water out of their mouth. Children work as a matter of life or death; they are truly poor over there, not American "poor."

If those kids can not have legit jobs such as the ones mentioned in the OP, then they may have to resort to more drastic options like drug trades and/or child prostitution.

Child labor is icky when you are sitting on your sofa in the US. Child labor is a necessity if it puts food in your stomach.

Classic case of the best decision for an individual being the exact opposite of what's best for everyone.

By supporting child labour, you guarantee that it won't end - there's plenty of productivity in the world to ensure children aren't forced to work menial, full-time jobs in sweatshops, and there are dozens of schemes for making this a reality, ranging from full-blown communism, to pretty minor and innocuous labour laws and treaties.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Babbles
They work not because they want to, but because they need to. If you see child laborer working and you yank out your contract, then you effectively took food and water out of their mouth. Children work as a matter of life or death; they are truly poor over there, not American "poor."

If those kids can not have legit jobs such as the ones mentioned in the OP, then they may have to resort to more drastic options like drug trades and/or child prostitution.

Child labor is icky when you are sitting on your sofa in the US. Child labor is a necessity if it puts food in your stomach.

Classic case of the best decision for an individual being the exact opposite of what's best for everyone.

By supporting child labour, you guarantee that it won't end - there's plenty of productivity in the world to ensure children aren't forced to work menial, full-time jobs in sweatshops, and there are dozens of schemes for making this a reality, ranging from full-blown communism, to pretty minor and innocuous labour laws and treaties.

Oddly enough child labor worked pretty damn well during the industrial revolution in the US and Europe, i.e. the western world.

Child labor was very common and popular during the western industrial revolution, however the fact is child labor effectively no longer exists.

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Reading your post is very painfull. That being said, it almost seems as if you're making a subversive attemt to try and advertise your stuff here. I would hope that's not your intent.

What the Hell. I don't sell nothing to forum people . Ya just pissed me off big time. You read these forums theres more spam here than Hormel cans.

/nem"euhsis/, n., pl. nemeses /-seez'/.
1. a source of failure