Chicago woman with 7Ft posterior gets $750 month disability

[Incorruptible]

Cut her welfare. There is no way she should get welfare. No subsidies for her.

 

[werepossum]

She's so fat she sat on an iPhone and turned it into an iPad.

She's so fat she sued xbox 360 for guessing her weight.

She's so fat she went to KFC to get a bucket of chicken they asked her what size and she said the one on the roof.

She's so fat she left the house in high heels and when she came back she had on flip flops.

LOL!

She's so fat when she leaves the house in high heels oil companies follow her around waiting for the next big strike.

She's so fat when she goes out there are smaller fat ladies orbiting around her.

She's so fat people get lost trying to walk around her.

She's so fat her tampon has a tag the government won't let you remove.

She's so fat when she goes to a restaurant they run a credit check.

She's so fat when she goes to the beach the tide has to wait til she leaves to come in.

She's so fat Miley Cyrus jumped on her naked.

She's so fat her cereal bowl has a lifeguard.

She's so fat she put her footprints in the Hollywood sidewalk two years after the concrete was poured.

She's so fat when she rolls over she changes area codes.

She's so fat when she switches hands with her cell phone she changes cells.

She's so fat when she fell in love she broke it.

She's so fat when she buys a new dress it comes with an asteroid belt.

She's so fat her dress size is Equator.

She's so fat her high school year book photo was an aerial shot.

She's so fat her college year book picture is still developing.

She's so fat when she fell off the Grand Canyon overlook she got stuck halfway down.

She's so fat when she goes out to eat she gets the group discount.

She's so fat when she bought a fur coat mammoths went extinct.

She's so fat NASA's plan to move the Earth farther from the sun involves her and a trailer load of beans.

She's so fat when she wears green the Japanese army attacks her.

She's so fat she sweats gravy.

She's so fat when she goes to concerts she sits next to everyone.

She's so fat when she gets a shoe shine she demands he produce photographic proof.

She's so fat when she got on the high diving board the water was to her knees.

She's so fat the National Weather Service names her farts.

She's so fat when she goes missing her picture wraps around the milk TRUCK.

She's so fat she doesn't eat with a fork, she eats with a fork truck.

She's so fat she puts mayonnaise on aspirin.

She's so fat even Dora can't explore her.

She's so fat her lover has to roll over twice to get off of her.

She's so fat when her lover climbs on top of her his ears pop.

She's so fat when she shows up early her ass is still late.

She's so fat restaurants have posted occupancy limits in fractions of her.

She's so fat her shadow weighs a hundred pounds.

She's so fat the apartment below her can only be rented to midgets.

She's so fat she can never pass a field sobriety test because she only knows KFC.

Remember HR, she embraces her size . . .

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Link? I don't see anything in the original article about metabolic condition.

The original article is about her weight and she gets disability. She isn't looking for medical justification and in any case what I've said is accurate about obesity.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

That said we are put into a setting where food is easy to obtain and we don't do physical labor. That is correct but you generalize too much. Do you realize that if you put many who are as morbidly obese on a managed diet of severe caloric restriction under laboratory conditions they will not lose or even gain weight consuming hundreds, not thousands, of calories?

Can you link to a study supporting this? When I was younger I was involved with wrestling and bodybuilding which gave me some interesting perspectives on how different people's bodies gain and lose weight.

I've known people who couldn't lose that last 5-10lbs even though they lived a healthy lifestyle and really should have been able to on a purely "calories-in / calories-out" basis, but every obese person I've ever known has had poor eating habits.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Remember HR, she embraces her size . . .

She may not have much of a choice. But maybe she's as you and others belive, just some lazy fat ******.

 

[BoberFett]

If you had her condition you would look a whole lot like her. The analogy with diabetes fails because the underlying conditions are completely different.

That said we are put into a setting where food is easy to obtain and we don't do physical labor. That is correct but you generalize too much. Do you realize that if you put many who are as morbidly obese on a managed diet of severe caloric restriction under laboratory conditions they will not lose or even gain weight consuming hundreds, not thousands, of calories?

As far as "why we didn't see more" is because people with this condition died. Like diabetes it isn't the disease but all the problems the disease (and people need to start looking at this from this perspective, not a failing of moral character). Falls, infection, pneumonia, flu, any of a number of things killed many, but obesity makes you likely to die in more primitive conditions, but it did exist. The fat lady is proof. She was just "lucky"to live and find employment in being mocked by those who felt it was her fault, much like we see now.

Are you going to blame the change in average life span for our obesity epidemic? Sorry, that doesn't fly. Compare children of today (who are the morbidly obese of tomorrow) to the children of 50 years ago. Kids are fatasses today, we didn't have a bunch of fat kids dying in the streets 50 years ago.

 

[nehalem256]

The original article is about her weight and she gets disability. She isn't looking for medical justification and in any case what I've said is accurate about obesity.

Mayo Clinic appears to disagree with you:

Is it possible to be overweight because of a slow metabolism?

Probably not. There is such a thing as a slow metabolism. But slow metabolism is rare, and it's usually not what's behind being overweight or obese — that's usually a matter of diet and exercise.
...
If you're concerned about slow metabolism and your weight, talk to your doctor about healthy changes you can make. And if you still think you have slow metabolism, your doctor can check your metabolism or check for rare conditions that can cause problems with metabolism, such as hypothyroidism and Cushing's syndrome

http://www.mayoclinic.org/slow-metabolism/expert-answers/FAQ-20058480

 

[fleshconsumed]

The original article is about her weight and she gets disability. She isn't looking for medical justification and in any case what I've said is accurate about obesity.

You said: "She has a metabolic condition which he has no more control over than you have over your height or race. This isn't a choice [...]"

Having metabolic/genetic condition is the only valid excuse for being obese. However, those people are a fraction of general populace, everyone else being obese is their own making. The question I asked was not about her justification, but whether or not you had verifiable proof that she has a genetic condition.

Is it me or are you backtracking?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

For 448 pound 33 year old woman (assume height as 5'5) gives a BMR of 2738.

You appear to be claiming there is an epidemic of people whose BMR is only 1/3, or less, of what it should be? Why does this claim seem like BS?

Does their mass warp the laws of physics?

Na, yer just ignerant and proud

Seriously, I attended a seminar some time ago about obesity, which included numerous factors. One thing that was very clear that there a great many "normal" people who are overweight by some factor, but when we get to someone like this woman throw your calculators out the window. Like our ancestors who survived before modern times she has a "thrifty" set of genes which have gone crazy. Her metabolic pathways will create whatever is required to gain and maintain weight. If someone is literally locked in a room and fed measured amounts of food they will not lose. Now maybe she has some psychological reason for eating thousand upon thousand of calories she has no craving for. I can't know that, but I do know the science and one can hide and be ashamed or be proud in a real or defensive sense, but that really doesn't matter anymore than thumping a bible makes jesus ride a dinosaur.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Are you going to blame the change in average life span for our obesity epidemic? Sorry, that doesn't fly. Compare children of today (who are the morbidly obese of tomorrow) to the children of 50 years ago. Kids are fatasses today, we didn't have a bunch of fat kids dying in the streets 50 years ago.

Nope and I didn't. Obesity is complex and depends on a great many factors. I also didn't say that kids are on average fatter than during those times because of metabolic changes. I was addressing extremes which is what this woman exibits and why rates were lower in past times. Until recent you wouldn't even have known about something like this because you couldn't have known. The internet creates a bias in perceptions because you have greater access to whatever people think is "newsworthy" including this woman.

 

[BoberFett]

Nope and I didn't. Obesity is complex and depends on a great many factors. I also didn't say that kids are on average fatter than during those times because of metabolic changes. I was addressing extremes which is what this woman exibits and why rates were lower in past times. Until recent you wouldn't even have known about something like this because you couldn't have known. The internet creates a bias in perceptions because you have greater access to whatever people think is "newsworthy" including this woman.

She's extreme, but not as extreme as she once was.

You don't need to the internet or the media to show you that morbidly obese people are a far more common occurrence nowadays. Just leaving your house will tell you things have changed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The question I asked was not about her justification, but whether or not you had verifiable proof that she has a genetic condition.

No, I don't. I doubt she's even be properly examined, but I do know that those who do have the condition look like her and people like her are far more likely to have the mutation.

My question would how do you know if it's a failure of character or there's a medical reason for it? It she could be entirely responsible for her state, but the overwhelming assumption is that it must be the case and that the science is wrong. It must be the person, just like they must be just like someone who has a birth defect. No? There's no difference from the science perspective.

 

[werepossum]

She may not have much of a choice. But maybe she's as you and others belive, just some lazy fat ******.

She is quoted with saying she has a problem with portion control. That suggests she has a choice.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

She is quoted with saying she has a problem with portion control. That suggests she has a choice.

It's interesting how powerful (or, if you prefer, weak) the mind can be when it comes to compulsive behaviors. The body really doesn't want to be morbidly obese, and it takes a shit-ton of calories to maintain a body like that. If she started eating a normal, 2,000-calorie diet she would start shedding weight right away. I used to work with a woman who was about 475 pounds, and she ate Reese's cups compulsively all day - she put them away like Tic Tacs. I would conservatively guess that she ate 3,000 calories a day just in that one empty-calorie snacking behavior. This is not meant to make fun of these people - I, like most people, eat more crap than I should - but I do find it interesting when people develop habitual behaviors that are so harmful.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's interesting how powerful (or, if you prefer, weak) the mind can be when it comes to compulsive behaviors. The body really doesn't want to be morbidly obese, and it takes a shit-ton of calories to maintain a body like that. If she started eating a normal, 2,000-calorie diet she would start shedding weight right away. I used to work with a woman who was about 475 pounds, and she ate Reese's cups compulsively all day - she put them away like Tic Tacs. I would conservatively guess that she ate 3,000 calories a day just in that one empty-calorie snacking behavior. This is not meant to make fun of these people - I, like most people, eat more crap than I should - but I do find it interesting when people develop habitual behaviors that are so harmful.

And with that piece of medical wisdom, I'll go back to the equally ignorant antivaccine thread. Adios.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

She is quoted with saying she has a problem with portion control. That suggests she has a choice.

Well one more word. If you were constantly hungry, that nothing ever satisfied you and your body tended to retain what it ate you'd look exactly like her. You'd never be able to deal with it because your brain would be flooded with input which you wouldn't be able to resist. Maybe you could get help and keep it under some control. A bypass perhaps. But probably you'd be screwed and certainly without outside help. But again prejudice based on willful ignorance never goes away. There must always be a my lover or ******.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Well one more word. If you were constantly hungry, that nothing ever satisfied you and your body tended to retain what it ate you'd look exactly like her. You'd never be able to deal with it because your brain would be flooded with input which you wouldn't be able to resist. Maybe you could get help and keep it under some control. A bypass perhaps. But probably you'd be screwed and certainly without outside help. But again prejudice based on willful ignorance never goes away. There must always be a my lover or ******.

I'm not sure how this differs from my post, which you completely discounted. Personally I think it's silly to equate morbid obesity to race, much less racial hatred, however, and I'm not sure where you're going with that.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm not sure how this differs from my post, which you completely discounted.

I'll be sucked back in.

Differs from your post?

It's interesting how powerful (or, if you prefer, weak) the mind can be

I do find it interesting when people develop habitual behaviors that are so harmful.

Yes it is interesting. It's also interesting that the quote you decided to choose states there's much of a choice. You also cite something completely untrue with "the body doesn't want to be obese." Hell, there's enough ignorance right there to justify my choosing you. But, hey you know that blacks aren't educated and it's because we all know that they are shiftless and lazy. That's the equivalent. Your kind of ignorance is exactly the kind that tags people as being shiftless and lazy and weak willed, and creates discrimination and hostility against people that have no more real control over their situation than those who are black. It's not willful ignorance. It's not the harm done. None of that counts. You don't want blacks to suffer those injustices. Wrongdoing isn't wrong unless it's for more fashionable groups. Well I suppose there's the "thin man's burden" option for you.

 

[chucky2]

Touch my Pepsi and I'll kill you...

 

[Vaux]

Base-jumping is a one time thing that goes bad.

Obesity is the result of making the same choice over and over. And is easily correctable if you stop making that decision.

Not so fast. Who says base jumping is a one time thing? If you continually lead a lifestyle that has a high probability to cause you to become disabled, and you are well aware of the risks yet you continue to do it anyways, then how is it different?

Again, I am not really trying to defend her, but if your standard is that she is not eligible for disability because she made the same bad choice over and over and was easily correctable, well you could apply that to a ton of things people do and get disabled doing. Do you hold them to that same standard?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I'll be sucked back in.

Differs from your post?

Yes it is interesting. It's also interesting that the quote you decided to choose states there's much of a choice. You also cite something completely untrue with "the body doesn't want to be obese." Hell, there's enough ignorance right there to justify my choosing you. But, hey you know that blacks aren't educated and it's because we all know that they are shiftless and lazy. That's the equivalent. Your kind of ignorance is exactly the kind that tags people as being shiftless and lazy and weak willed, and creates discrimination and hostility against people that have no more real control over their situation than those who are black. It's not willful ignorance. It's not the harm done. None of that counts. You don't want blacks to suffer those injustices. Wrongdoing isn't wrong unless it's for more fashionable groups. Well I suppose there's the "thin man's burden" option for you.

I wasn't trying to marginalize the obese, but to say there is no element of choice in being morbidly obese is just wrongheaded thinking in my view. As it happens I was obese at one time in my life. I realized it was time for a change, and buckled down and lost 70 pounds. I don't consider that an extraordinary feat, but it was something that took a lot of work and willpower, and fortunately I was able to muster both.

I fully understand people can have varying metabolisms and that in some cases their minds are literally playing tricks on them by making them feel unsatiated by food. In other cases, the eating is itself compulsive/addictive, and that can be a chain that is very difficult to break (this was the phenomenon referenced in my prior post). What you cannot convince me of is the idea that obese people have no say in their own lifestyle choices. There are a wealth of resources available to help people with eating disorders of all kinds. This woman, who apparently does not work, could certainly avail herself of such resources if she so chose. I am not saying she or any obese person is evil, but to me you're the one who's being disrespectful, by saying obese people simply have no control over their own behavior.

 

[werepossum]

It's interesting how powerful (or, if you prefer, weak) the mind can be when it comes to compulsive behaviors. The body really doesn't want to be morbidly obese, and it takes a shit-ton of calories to maintain a body like that. If she started eating a normal, 2,000-calorie diet she would start shedding weight right away. I used to work with a woman who was about 475 pounds, and she ate Reese's cups compulsively all day - she put them away like Tic Tacs. I would conservatively guess that she ate 3,000 calories a day just in that one empty-calorie snacking behavior. This is not meant to make fun of these people - I, like most people, eat more crap than I should - but I do find it interesting when people develop habitual behaviors that are so harmful.

This is true, of me as well as her.

EDIT: I will add that my obese co-worker does not overeat in my experience. I've spent several days with him and I eat more even though I weigh only half as much. (He does drink a LOT more though, lots of calories there.) On the other hand, my obese aunt not only hid food, when she claimed to have eaten nothing but a bowl of soup that day to garner sympathy, she never mentioned that it was a serving bowl suitable for feeding four people on soup alone or that a pan of cornbread accompanied the soup.

Well one more word. If you were constantly hungry, that nothing ever satisfied you and your body tended to retain what it ate you'd look exactly like her. You'd never be able to deal with it because your brain would be flooded with input which you wouldn't be able to resist. Maybe you could get help and keep it under some control. A bypass perhaps. But probably you'd be screwed and certainly without outside help. But again prejudice based on willful ignorance never goes away. There must always be a my lover or ******.

I AM constantly hungry. Always. I just ate a 10" Big River Grill pizza and I'm wanting (though not buying) a candy bar. My mouth is watering from thinking about it. That (and a far too sedentary lifestyle) is why I am ~40 pounds overweight. But nobody guaranteed me a certain caloric intake (or eternal gustatorial satisfaction) without side effects. I used to eat two Wendy's triples for lunch and maintained 125 lbs; now I cannot eat one double without gaining weight. Part of that may be the thyroid cancer or it may all be age, but either way my metabolism is what it is. I am not entitled to eat whatever I want and have others pay the consequences.

The day I cannot control what I put in my mouth, or worse, cannot take responsibility for it, is the day I hope someone puts me down.

 

[highland145]

I am not entitled to eat whatever I want and have others pay the consequences.

Wrong, apparently.

 

[nehalem256]

Not so fast. Who says base jumping is a one time thing? If you continually lead a lifestyle that has a high probability to cause you to become disabled, and you are well aware of the risks yet you continue to do it anyways, then how is it different?

Again, I am not really trying to defend her, but if your standard is that she is not eligible for disability because she made the same bad choice over and over and was easily correctable, well you could apply that to a ton of things people do and get disabled doing. Do you hold them to that same standard?

I mean the difference is that the injury was a one time issue. Obesity is something that slowly builds overtime, as in oh shit my pants don't fit anymore. Should I eat less or buy new pants?

Whereas a base-jumping injury is a one time catastrophic thing. Its not like you leg slowly gets more amputated every time you base jump.

And I agree there is definitely a strong argument that people who do statistically dangerous things shouldn't be able to claim societal support if it eventually bites them in the ass. The real issue is where do you draw the line on what constitutes statistically dangerous things. Base jumping certainly sees like it, but what about something like motorcycle riding?

 

[moonwalker]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/sarah-masseys-butt-seven-foot-wide-2971933

I don' think so.