Chicago Cop to journalists: "Your first amendment right can be terminated"

Anonemous

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... then they get arrested.

http://redtape.msnbc.msn.com/_news/...be-terminated-when-cops-cameras-dont-mix?lite

Ouch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaUD6H6srE

Cop Arrests NBC Reporters, Says "Your First Amendment Right Can Be Terminated"
"I don't care about no damn lawsuit" officer yells at media:

Two NBC journalists were handcuffed and threatened by Chicago police after attempting to report on the murder of a 6-year-old girl yesterday, NBC Chicago reports.

Another NBC journalist was also detained by police outside Mt. Sinai Hospital, where the girl had been taken following a fatal shooting during city wide violence over the weekend.

Police were called to the hospital shortly after reporters arrived on the scene. The journalists said they has already moved away from a public sidewalk and across the street at the request of the police.

One police officer was then caught on camera telling other members of the media "Your First Amendment right can be terminated if you're creating a scene or whatever. Your First Amendment right has got limitations."

When the reporters asked for clarification on how they were creating a scene, the officer replied, "Your presence is creating a scene."

"This is what we do for a living!" one reporter replied, before another added"You've got a lawsuit coming."

"I don't care about no damn lawsuit!" the officer fired back. "F*ck a lawsuit. Just 'cause you sue doesn't mean you're going to win."

Photographer Donte Williams and WGN Reporter Dan Ponce were then handcuffed and briefly detained by the officer, who threatened them with trespassing charges.

The police say they acted following claims that the reporters had attempted to enter a secure area of the hospital.

The two reporters, along with NBC Chicago Reporter Christian Farr deny that they attempted to go inside the hospital. The two were released without charge.

Later appearing on WLS Radio, Dan Ponce said "This is in front of a hospital. The reporters and photographers were standing on the median sidewalk when the officer started yelling at us, telling us to get further away. We decided to take a stand."
 

mmntech

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Obama's America, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You can report anywhere on public property. NBC needs to sue and this cop needs to be fired.
 

olds

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Meh, they feel the same way about the 2nd.
And the 3rd
And the 4th and the 5th .........................
 
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waggy

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this happend a while ago and its just now on MSNBC news?

idiotic cop.
 

OutHouse

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the only difference between this cop and a security guard is that he has police on his badge.
 

sdifox

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slow cop. Toronto G20 was the pinnacle of charter right violation, which js similar to your constitutional rights.
 

drebo

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Well, technically, if you incite to riot or in cases of libel or slander, your 1st amendment rights are abridged.

That said, I don't think it extends to simply filming on a sidewalk or step.
 

zinfamous

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Obama's America, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. You can report anywhere on public property. NBC needs to sue and this cop needs to be fired.

Well fuck me sideways, I had no idea that Obama was now screwing the common man by improperly training retarded police grunts.
 

MotionMan

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Well, technically, if you incite to riot or in cases of libel or slander, your 1st amendment rights are abridged.

That said, I don't think it extends to simply filming on a sidewalk or step.

Yes, of course your 1st Amendment Rights can be limited and even terminated (like in prison). You can even be arrested if your speech is inciting illegal behavior.

However, this event does not seem to fall under one of the factual scenarios that would allow for a single police officer to impinge on a 1st Amendment Right.

Now, if it was me, I would move because I do not want to be arrested. They had more than enough video for a lawsuit without having to get arrested.

MotionMan
 

Scotteq

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the only difference between this cop and a security guard is that he has police on his badge.

I always thought of Cops as more like Janitors for human beings... wandering behind us, cleaning and hiding the mess so the rest of us don't have to see it lying in the streets.
 

natto fire

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Hate to say it, but the cop is actually correct with the introduction of the patriot act. US citizens can be held as "enemy combatants" without the rights they would normally receive. While this is not very common, the cop is a douche, and only federal level jurisdictions are the ones stripping rights, he did have a point...
 

Venix

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Hate to say it, but the cop is actually correct with the introduction of the patriot act. US citizens can be held as "enemy combatants" without the rights they would normally receive. While this is not very common, the cop is a douche, and only federal level jurisdictions are the ones stripping rights, he did have a point...

The Patriot Act says nothing about "enemy combatants" and provides no authority to detain US citizens. It's a mostly harmless piece of legislation with some questionable sections about surveillance and treatment of aliens.

Enemy combatant detentions are based on 1942's ex Parte Quirin opinion, a series of executive orders, the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, and the Military Commissions Act. The federal government also enjoys abusing material witness warrants to hold people forever without trial. Yet for some reason, people always cry "Patriot Act" in response to any federal government abuse of power.