Cheney's daughter joins Romneys campaign.

[techs]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...on_el_pr/romney_cheney

Liz Cheney, one of Vice President Dick Cheney's daughters, has signed onto Mitt Romney's presidential campaign as a senior foreign policy adviser.

Cheney most recently worked in the State Department handling Middle East affairs.

While her father and President Bush have both vowed to remain neutral as their fellow Republicans battle it out for the GOP nomination, the endorsement is likely to be well received among conservatives who comprise a critical primary voting bloc in both Florida, which votes Tuesday, and the 20-odd states voting Feb. 5.

Romney has also enjoyed the support of aides with ties to the Bush family, including top assistants to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and former President George H.W. Bush.

Liz Cheney, 41, is the elder of Dick and Lynne Cheney's two daughters. Her younger sister, Mary, has been more prominently in the public eye after revealing she is a lesbian and having a son last year with her partner, Heather Poe, despite the administration's opposition to gay marriage.

Liz Cheney, the mother of five children, said in a statement: "Throughout his campaign, (Romney) has distinguished himself as a leader who can guide our country with a clear vision for overcoming the threats we face today. ... I look forward to working with Governor Romney because he is the leader our country needs."

Romney said Liz Cheney brings the campaign "years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East."

Liz Cheney previously supported former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson, who dropped out of the race last week




Yet another crony. It is amazing how many family members and incompetent friends of the Bushes and Cheneys are given government jobs.
Oh well.

 

[Sinsear]

I havn't really done my research but from where does Ms. Cheney have the qualifications to bring "years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East"?

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
I havn't really done my research but from where does Ms. Cheney have the qualifications to bring "years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East"?

:laugh:. Just like with Hillary, she probably borrowed her experience from somebody else and claimed it as her own.

 

[Lemon law]

Not only does Liz Cheney have decades of experience, she has family connections that landed her cush jobs at the State department. Its called political patronage family style.

But if I want someone to teach me how not to formulate American policy, how not to advance democracy, and how not to foster reform in the mid-east, Liz Cheney would be high on a short list of suitable people with experience.

Experience does not mean squat when its bad experience stinking thinking.

As we can see, the Cheney family has a long track record of flopping first and every pop out of the box. It kind of tells us we are talking experience of the bad kind. They may be able to call on the resources of the US military to do their heavy lifting, but when it comes time to advance things from there, THEY ARE WORSE THAN USELESS.

And as the republican race comes down to McCain vs. Romney, they run to Romney because they know McCain will have no use for their stinking thinking.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
I havn't really done my research but from where does Ms. Cheney have the qualifications to bring "years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East"?

For what it is worth:
"After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw."

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Sinsear
I havn't really done my research but from where does Ms. Cheney have the qualifications to bring "years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East"?

:laugh:. Just like with Hillary, she probably borrowed her experience from somebody else and claimed it as her own.

lol

 

[Lemon law]

Non Prof John points out-----For what it is worth:
"After graduating from law school, Cheney practiced law in the private sector and as an international law attorney and consultant at the International Finance Corporation, a member of the World Bank Group. She has also served as Special Assistant to the Deputy Secretary of State for Assistance to the former Soviet Union, and as a USAID officer in U.S. embassies in Budapest and Warsaw."

PJ, the point being, no one is saying Liz Cheney does not have experience. The point is we should question if she has good experience or bad experience.

Lets see, one bone of islamic contention is world bank policies. GWB may have gazed into Putin's eyes and trusted, but right now the Russians are advancing their agenda at the expense of the US, and her Daddy and Rummy are long standing authors of our failures in Iraq and Afghanistan. And she supports her Daddy.

Which says one and only one thing, she has exactly the type of experience we in the US should not want.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
And she supports her Daddy.

Which says one and only one thing, she has exactly the type of experience we in the US should not want.

How do you know that?

How do you know she is effectively a clone of her father, an ideological equivalent?

Fern

 

[Lemon law]

As Blackaigst1 says------. Just like with Hillary, she probably borrowed her experience from somebody else and claimed it as her own.

Funny, that exact point came up on This week. And the knowledgeable pointed out that Hillary Clinton has a far better mastery of all the issues than Obama. Which is why the New York Times endorsed her. The Bill And Hillary Clinton team goes way back, and they lived, ate and breathed politics.

One may like or dislike Hillary and her stances on the issues, but one only shows total ignorance to hypothesize she is ignorant on the issues. Question if her experience is good or bad if you want, but experience is her long suit.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: Lemon law
And she supports her Daddy.

Which says one and only one thing, she has exactly the type of experience we in the US should not want.

How do you know that?

How do you know she is effectively a clone of her father, an ideological equivalent?

Fern

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Fair question Fern. I had heard of some of her actions before but you want some proof.

So I just googled Liz Cheney and got plenty of hits. Here is just one.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ajjan.php?articleid=10940

If it acts like a dummy, sounds like a dummy, it quacks like a Dick Cheney, and its not really Dick Cheney, its probably his wife or daughters.

 

[Fern]

Thanks for the link.

I'd never heard of her before (at least that I can recall).

Here's a link to the article that the Ajjan guy takes such offense at.

Mostly seems she wants us to have a policy of isolating Syria while they persist with their policy against Lebanon.

Seems fairly normal to me [shrug]

The U.S. government should implement all remaining elements of the Syria Accountability Act

I don't know what that is, other than some act of Congress I presume?

Fern

 

[Lemon law]

To Fern,

Like I said, I just Googled Liz Cheney, piles of hits, and its up to various readers to decide if she is just like her daddy or someone who is smarter and different.

But since her Daddy, IMHO, is a serial liar and a proven idiot, the case of bad experience we should not want is now made. And the burden of proof is now on those who think
she has useful insights we taxpayers should hire irrespective of her ancestry. And since that decision will be made by the next POTHUS, it just gives me another reason not to vote for Romney. ( As if I did not have enough reasons before---just don't ask me if its reason 20,753 or reason 20,754. But I can always add one more )

 

[Fern]

Cabinet members could possibly influence me somewhat. But not someone at that level.

I'm really more interested in the positions of the candidate themselves.

Come on, it's not like you were ever gonna vote for Romney anyway.

Fern

 

[boredhokie]

She'll be in charge of making sure the curtains match the drapes in the White House..

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: Fern
Cabinet members could possibly influence me somewhat. But not someone at that level.

I'm really more interested in the positions of the candidate themselves.

Come on, it's not like you were ever gonna vote for Romney anyway.

Fern

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You miss the entire point Fern. The fact that Liz Cheney is joining Romney is a giant indicator of the degree of welcome neocon thought will have in a possible President Romney administration. Its also an indicator that neocon thought will find little welcome in a possible
President McCain administration.

Even though I have one vote to give to a democrat I will probably vote for, I am used to the possibility that things may not go my way. So, in that sense, Romney becomes a worst case scenario for me when he embraces neocons like Liz Cheney. I have no problem with Romney wasting his personal fortune hiring her, I do have a giant problem with seeing my tax payer bucks being wasted on hiring neocons who are dangerous to the USA.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
You miss the entire point Fern. The fact that Liz Cheney is joining Romney is a giant indicator of the degree of welcome neocon thought will have in a possible President Romney administration. Its also an indicator that neocon thought will find little welcome in a possible
President McCain administration.

Well, I just think you're reading way too much into it myself.

I can only think of about two whole people on the planet that don't seem like Neocon's in theory, including Dems that would be Pat Buchanon and Ron Paul. Neither of which are gonna get elected.

The last time I read the definition it struck me as so broad that only isolationist are excluded.

Fern

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: Fern
Cabinet members could possibly influence me somewhat. But not someone at that level.

I'm really more interested in the positions of the candidate themselves.

Come on, it's not like you were ever gonna vote for Romney anyway.

Fern

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You miss the entire point Fern. The fact that Liz Cheney is joining Romney is a giant indicator of the degree of welcome neocon thought will have in a possible President Romney administration. Its also an indicator that neocon thought will find little welcome in a possible
President McCain administration.

Even though I have one vote to give to a democrat I will probably vote for, I am used to the possibility that things may not go my way. So, in that sense, Romney becomes a worst case scenario for me when he embraces neocons like Liz Cheney. I have no problem with Romney wasting his personal fortune hiring her, I do have a giant problem with seeing my tax payer bucks being wasted on hiring neocons who are dangerous to the USA.

The neocons are jumping ship from 9-11 to Romney. Like roaches, these guys are real survivalists.

 

[Lemon law]

Gotta agree with Dari when he says---The neocons are jumping ship from 9-11 to Romney. Like roaches, these guys are real survivalists.

Since Thompson, Liz Cheneys former ride has already gone belly up, and Romney is likely to go down in Florida, Romney is the last refuge of neocon scoundrels.

No dem will have neocons, Ron Paul would certainly reject neocons, I am betting both Huckabee and McCain are too pragmatic to have them, that just leaves Romney and Rudy
for their refuge. And if Giuliani goes down, we are down to the incredibly plastic Romney as their neocon ONLY hope for dopes.

Worse yet for neocons, the one signature issue McCain has, winning the war in Iraq, could kill the McCain candidacy if Iraq degenerates into civil war or renewed violence. But the same scenario further discredits neocons also.