Cheney: President Obama Wants ‘To Take America Down’

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shira

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Hey guys, the guy who was supposedly working to protect the US during the largest terrorist attack in our history, involved the US in two ruinous wars, and presided over one of the largest economic collapses in modern history thinks Obama's doing things wrong.

We all better listen really closely, because this guy is clearly an expert on doing things wrong.

What's even sadder is that I bet the only things Obama has done that he approves of are the awful things like expanded domestic surveillance, drone strikes on US citizens, etc.

And you haven't even credited Cheney for the aftermath of our invasion of Iraq: The growing instability of the region - including the rise of ISIS - widely blamed on Paul Bremer's decision to fire all members of Saddam's army.

But neocons including Cheney think more of the same kind of U.S. involvement in the region would be a really good decision.
 

Genx87

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And you haven't even credited Cheney for the aftermath of our invasion of Iraq: The growing instability of the region - including the rise of ISIS - widely blamed on Paul Bremer's decision to fire all members of Saddam's army.

But neocons including Cheney think more of the same kind of U.S. involvement in the region would be a really good decision.

That only happened because Obama honored the treaty signed by Dicks boss. Obama was supposed to disregard that treaty and occupy Iraq. It's what true patriotic Americans would do. Because of that ISIS rose from the ashes of the invasion dick helped lead.
 

JSt0rm

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How often in history has the previous administration been publicly critical of the current one?
 

ivwshane

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You guys realize a thread like this is likely to be just a liberal circle jerk? I don't think even conservatives support what this living embodiment of all that is horrible says.

There aren't many so when one comes up it can be quite the release;)
 

fskimospy

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I can only think of one. Clinton was critical of Bush.

I have no issue with past administrations criticizing current ones. The reason I feel that Cheney can't criticize people is due to his own spectacular failure in basically every facet of foreign policy.

You don't get to be a batting coach when you strike out five times a game and recently broke your toe by mistakenly hitting it with the bat.
 

kage69

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I have no issue with past administrations criticizing current ones. The reason I feel that Cheney can't criticize people is due to his own spectacular failure in basically every facet of foreign policy.

You don't get to be a batting coach when you strike out five times a game and recently broke your toe by mistakenly hitting it with the bat.

Quoted for absolute fucking truth.

Couldn't agree more with that last part either. To put in more GOP specific terms though, that guy should get the job because he can probably read, might be photogenic, and occasionally attends church. Also, let's put him in charge of hiring, finances, and game planning.
 

Jhhnn

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Jimmy carter and some his admin have slung around plenty of criticism since over the years.

Fern

Please. Whatever criticisms have been made in the past, I don't recall any accusations of selling out the country as leveled by Cheney. That's a new low.
 

nickqt

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Please. Whatever criticisms have been made in the past, I don't recall any accusations of selling out the country as leveled by Cheney. That's a new low.

Cheney is a coward. He had 5 opportunities to help preserve Freedom™ while the Vietnam war was raging, but he had other priorities.

As VP he hid in a bunker thinking about how everyone was out to get him and 'Murrica and our shopping malls.

Listening to that Dick and taking his inane BS seriously is more a reflection on the listener than that Dick himself. Let him rant and rave and occasionally shoot someone in the face with a shotgun. The less we care about his rantings, the less we'll hear about it. It won't control him shooting people in the face with a shotgun, though.
 

sportage

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Dick Cheney?
Does it even matter to anyone besides Dick Cheney what Dick Cheney says or thinks?
We could put Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin, and Ann Coulter on an island in the middle of nowhere and no one would even notice they were gone.
 

Sonikku

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It's too bad he had the luxury of passing on Vietnam. Perhaps if he was mired in all that muck and misery and death he would gained a shred of humanity and humility and would have been less prone to commit more American lives to wars over Oil and contractor dollars.
 

Paratus

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They'll need to bury his corpse in an undisclosed location to stop me (& a lot of other people) from pissing on his grave.

Die?! He's more machine than man now....
darth_vader_cheney.jpg
 

zinfamous

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This is big news! I didn't think Cheney was still materialized as a flesh-based entity.
 

Jaskalas

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You guys realize a thread like this is likely to be just a liberal circle jerk? I don't think even conservatives support what this living embodiment of all that is horrible says.

Cheney's comments reflect the Republican position on Obama. It's also the same segment of the population that thinks he's Muslim.
 

Mxylplyx

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The word "evil" is thrown around quite a bit in the political arena, mostly unfairly. Palin isnt evil, she's just dumb. Coulter...might be evil, but I think she's mostly just a provocateur trying to make a living. Dick Cheney definitely fits the bill though. The dude has the deaths of thousands of American soldiers on his hands, soldiers who died for NOTHING more than to enrich his corporate cronies and help fulfill his neocon fantasies. The world will be a better place when that old bastard's heart finally gives out.
 

Genx87

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I have no issue with past administrations criticizing current ones. The reason I feel that Cheney can't criticize people is due to his own spectacular failure in basically every facet of foreign policy.

You don't get to be a batting coach when you strike out five times a game and recently broke your toe by mistakenly hitting it with the bat.

Absolutely. But historically previous administrations afaik stayed on the sidelines. Clinton is the first I had heard that criticized. So I would expect this custom is now gone given Dicks criticisms.
 

sm625

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One of the worst things Obama has done is give credibility to people like Cheney.
 

blankslate

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This is big news! I didn't think Cheney was still materialized as a flesh-based entity.
Not yet. He can't take on physical form until he reacquires the One Ring.

Not only that but he prefers to posses the bodies of the young... however fair their previous appearance is Dick's malignant spirit corrupts their bodies so that they take on his appearance in a matter of days.

It is the most terrible and virtually unknown fate of the most unfortunate people who are reported missing.


....
 

Jhhnn

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One of the worst things Obama has done is give credibility to people like Cheney.

Mostly by being black & a Democrat, near as I can tell.

Or perhaps you'd care to be more specific with your slime slinging.
 
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Yet Obama gets a pass for bombing the crap out of sovereign country which resulted in a cesspool of human misery...ultimately making it a failed state with dramatic increases in violence, deaths, and human rights abuses. Libya used to help us fight terrorism, now it's a harbor for them. Obama's abject failure in Libya is clear....we should have never got involved. Isn't it ironic that those who rabidly vilify Cheney are the same ones who turn a blind eye toward's the results of Obama's warmongering? And I'm not saying this to defend Cheney...I'm saying this to vilify all who advocate war. "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"
 
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fskimospy

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Yet Obama gets a pass for bombing the crap out of sovereign country which resulted in a cesspool of human misery...ultimately making it a failed state with dramatic increases in violence, deaths, and human rights abuses. Libya used to help us fight terrorism, now it's a harbor for them. Obama's abject failure in Libya is clear....we should have never got involved.

We covered this before, your statement that Obama's action resulted in Libya becoming a failed state is at odds with the history. Libya already was a failed state by the time the west intervened.

I really thought we had cleared this up before, how did you still end up with such a wrong chronology?

Isn't it ironic that those who rabidly vilify Cheney are the same ones who turn a blind eye toward's the results of Obama's warmongering? And I'm not saying this to defend Cheney...I'm saying this to vilify all who advocate war. "War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!"

As covered before, they turn 'a blind eye' to it because it's literally not what happened in history. Your description is temporally impossible.
 
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We covered this before, your statement that Obama's action resulted in Libya becoming a failed state is at odds with the history. Libya already was a failed state by the time the west intervened.

I really thought we had cleared this up before, how did you still end up with such a wrong chronology?



As covered before, they turn 'a blind eye' to it because it's literally not what happened in history. Your description is temporally impossible.
Surely you know that many experts disagree with you.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/143044/alan-j-kuperman/obamas-libya-debacle