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Chemtrails real or fake

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I find it very interesting. What kind of clouds would form up there in that region because of the jet plane exhaust ?
Cirrus clouds, which eventually spread out to become Cirrostratus.

And how would this effect the reflection of sun radiation ? Would the effect these clouds have, be able to function as a thermal blanket ? Or would these clouds have a cooling function ? I assume it would also depend on the time of the day and the season ?

Their primary function would be to increase earth's albedo, increasing the proportion of sunlight that gets reflected back to space. They also capture some of the heat themselves, heating up the upper layers of troposphere and rising the tropopause, which probably has all kinds of weird effects on jet streams that I'm not smart/educated enough to even guess.

Note that certain weather phenomena, notably heavy thunderstorms, naturally lift clouds and dust into the upper layers of the atmosphere. It's just that jets increase the rate at which this happen.
 
Let me gloss over the backhanded remarks.

Try and get this point:

There's a little boy who lives in a little house with a little porch porch area in a very cold country. The ice man comes to make the little boy a skate rink. In between layers of cold water, that freezes in about 20 minutes, he makes a layer of kitchen paper towel. Ok kids, try this one at home: wet a piece of kitchen paper towel. What happens? That's right, it goes damn near see through. Right? Ok. Same stuff here. But the ice man says it's important. He says it will make the ice rink last a LOT longer. He's talking about avoiding a loss of maybe up to 2 degrees and that is enough to keep the little boy going round in circles on his skates. (ok, it's minus15degC and this is a true story, if you wondered)

Ok, quick review: Sun spits out lots of heat (uv radiation amongst others). Fat lazy bastard sitting on beach applies sunscreen. Aforementioned F.L.B. after several hours is still Fat and Lazy but the Bastard ain't burnt! Why not?

Sunscreen. (just like) 2 degrees.. get it?

How about a fluffy white, man-made induced, opaque layer of something that floats in the sky long enough to act like sunscreen? Would that be of benefit? Could that be of benefit? I'm convinced though that some pricks that oughta have been burnt have missed the point.

Let's spin it around the other way. What if we looked at this from another viewpoint.

What if the American people (those most affected by delusional paranoid affective disorders, disproportionally so in comparison to the rest of the world Ref: my unmitigated attempt to throw distracting arguments around a sensible point some may consider worthy of mention) actually realised they'd come up with a unique, cost effective method for spraying chemicals in the air that are highly effective at reflecting up to 20% (actual figure quoted for some researched compositions) of the sunlight for a period of 4 hours with a half hour lead time to get them in place.

Hmm.... just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching you.

So, while you might argue that messing with the weather is not recommended - er, this has been going on quite a while now - we've had a hundred years or so to ramp up the CO2 levels, not to mention anything more technical like methane, for example.

And we know how much sense it makes to treat a 'mental patient' with a causative - no wait that's the effective - chemical imbalance, with more chemicals to even things out - it makes perfect illogical sense to treat the sky for one chemical imbalance problem with another chemical. Right?

The American Goverment recommends this type of treatment for it's citizens - r.e. the PMA. It stands to reason that those same people authorising these types of treatments would also seek to modify the air in the sky. Does it not?

Note: if you have to mention the C word in your reply go right ahead, just don't call me a conspira..... thingo.

So, when you watched the weather engineering symposium, what conclusions did you draw personally on your feelings towards the potential for using what some people are afraid are already being used - re chemtrails saga - and how do you feel about the fact that in a short space of time it appears apparent that an American government agency is the one responsible for spraying Aluminium something or other into the sky for the specific purpose of reflecting sunlight to vary local surface temperatures?

Or is that just bunk?

Are you a schizophrenic? The writing style is suspect.
 
well they did it with silver oxide in vietnam didnt they?... our military doesnt even argue that. part of the reason we lost they think, because we made it so wet that we couldnt even travel the terrain (while the local people were used to wet weather and it didnt slow them down that much)

so while i dont think chemtrails, if they are real over american soil, are for mind control... i can absolutely believe they are still trying to perfect weather control. think about it, if our government controls the weather then we have a weapon that even better then nukes (nobody has to know were even waging a war!)

Hopefully the bolded is science fiction for a while longer, but I agree that if weather control becomes possible, it will more than likely be used as a weapon rather than help people. The science of killing each other is a bigger business after all. The trick would be to make the weather controlling mechanism to not require a ground based infrastructure. Controlling plate tectonics and magma flow would be interesting as well. Anyone remember SimEarth?
 
The short answer: google "chemtrails" and research for yourself.

The longer answer: Contrails typically vanish within 20-40 plane lengths as water can form ice crystals that enucleate around exhaust gas particles.

So-called "chemtrails" often stretch from horizon to horizon and billow into "plumes" that may remains for more than a few hours. Political propangandists state the chemtrails are to reduce global "warming"-(another hoax). Chemtrails often criss cross the sky and form a grid or checkerboard pattern. Planes discharging these aerosols are often unmarked and may appear as tanker jets. Again, research this yourself.

HR 2977 name "chemtrails" as an "exotic" weapon to be banned (they weren't).

You may find other references and videos re: "chemtrails" on Youtube and Michael Murphy's video, "What in the World are they spraying".

Also, google "global geo-engineering", for more on this subject.
 
Theyre just trying to control weather. I dont like it, but the fact is if you control weather you rule the world. Mother nature can detroy everything.
 
A need to cool the planet without any oversight by its general populace or even the nation-state has been implemented.

The program appears to be above even congressional control. It has been ongoing supposedly since the late 90's,
but it came to grab me by the throat literally, about 1.5 years ago. (Also how I came to know of Mr Mike Murphy.)
The aerosol spraying in SoCAL was so low and massive that it became an obvious public health problem.
One day I'll post a few of the photos showing all the dust that fell on my property.
Will show you the massive sky trails in progress, actual aircraft and low aerosol plumes falling to earth including the massive dust all over my home and occluded windows.
They were spraying everything from quartz chips to god knows what, but it was massive.

Things are a bit more under control now, but the AIO2/Ba dust is still considered an accumulative public health hazard (eg, kidney damage from chemical binding to nephrons) which is why I believe that it cannot be admitted as the liability already is infinite. It is also what you see accumulating on your automobiles, particularly the window glass and is the reason people are having to cough, sneeze and clear their throats continually.

There are many issues associated with what is going on. Too complicated to discuss in this forum, but just watch Mike Murphy's documentaries to get a feel for some of them.
 
The "cover Story" is geoengineering-

If so, then I'd like to know how red blood cells control the environment.

Google chemtrails and research the facts before you shoot off a theory or hearsay or rumor. BTW you will never get the facts from MSM.
 
Again, global warming is a hoax started by Al Gore to impose a carbon tax-1000's of world class scientists have refuted global warming 'theory' by carbon dioxide as a "spoof". Contact me if you want to read white papers confirming the global warming as a hoax. Get the facts and research. All the crap from the MSM is garbage.

In all the time I've posted on a forum, I've never received one query requesting a white paper. How odd.
 
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In all the time I've posted on a forum, I've never received one query requesting a white paper. How odd.
Most people realize that the Mayan calendar predicts the end of the earth anyway. Therefore your white papers are redundant. People not requesting is merely a form of denial.

Chemtrails are clearly misguided, desperate, but futile attempts to save the planet. I wish I could have seen those criss crossed chem trails in SoCal. I think the hookah would have been so fine.
 
Most people realize that the Mayan calendar predicts the end of the earth anyway. Therefore your white papers are redundant. People not requesting is merely a form of denial.

Chemtrails are clearly misguided, desperate, but futile attempts to save the planet. I wish I could have seen those criss crossed chem trails in SoCal. I think the hookah would have been so fine.

At the time the whole place was in a literal roar. Lots of people have photos, but fewer have been posted.

Here are some oldies, but mine are much more recent and dramatic and probably will scare the crap out of you because you will come to understand how much of it is in the air all around you that you breath (eg, notice how red the sky is at night and skies are not deep blue but silvery, the yellow brown dust the same on every car window, etc.). My photos show literally "in your face" aerosol:

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblo...apr/20/chemtrails-over-the-skies-at-earthday/

http://www.rense.com/general32/san.htm
 
The short answer: google "chemtrails" and research for yourself.

The longer answer: Contrails typically vanish within 20-40 plane lengths as water can form ice crystals that enucleate around exhaust gas particles..

Bullshit. How about reading the thread before replying?

How long contrails stay up depend entirely on the relative humidity of the air. There are no "Chemtrails" -- what you are seeing is normal contrails in >=100% relative humidity conditions.

As I said before, this is not based on some bullshit someone spouted on the internet. I spent 6 months of my life at a weather station putting up weather balloons. Not once were there weird clouds up there that shouldn't have been there based on the atmospheric conditions.
 
Maybe we need posters in this forum to first post their answers to a basic science quiz...
Or maybe Google filtering to keep the crazies out of this kind of thread - it now will show up as a match for "chemtrails" and they can now stream in to warn the skeptics that the evil airline companies are trying to drug us all.


- Chemtrails are chemical trails. Yes. Jet fuel exhaust.
- There is some concern that they may affect climate, as they're adding an abnormal level of particulates to the upper atmosphere.


If I was going to drug the population, I'd go after the water supply.
 
Or maybe Google filtering to keep the crazies out of this kind of thread - it now will show up as a match for "chemtrails" and they can now stream in to warn the skeptics that the evil airline companies are trying to drug us all.


- Chemtrails are chemical trails. Yes. Jet fuel exhaust.
- There is some concern that they may affect climate, as they're adding an abnormal level of particulates to the upper atmosphere.


If I was going to drug the population, I'd go after the water supply.
That's only because you understand concentration effects. That's at least a few years ahead of these kids.
 
Or maybe Google filtering to keep the crazies out of this kind of thread - it now will show up as a match for "chemtrails" and they can now stream in to warn the skeptics that the evil airline companies are trying to drug us all. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


- Chemtrails are chemical trails. Yes. Jet fuel exhaust.
- There is some concern that they may affect climate, as they're adding an abnormal level of particulates to the upper atmosphere.


If I was going to drug the population, I'd go after the water supply.

That is old fashioned. :sneaky:
We do it now by use of "pathogens". We update people now by using a multiple infection vector pattern. Simultaneous infections, epi-genetics to express normally dormant genes and viruses, bacteria and fungi that lay dormant until the right chemical vector in food or even just a common cold is released which forces expression of certain proteins...
This is just the start. Evolution is going to speed up for humans.
We no longer wait 100.000 years while manipulating events.
After the embarrassment a few thousand years ago, we are now back to take forced action.
And yes, hacking in order to post anonymously on the accounts of other people is easy for our current entanglement tech. We exist everywhere...

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pssst... I am trolling...


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Conspiritards.. These people are all the same.. their strategy for proving their point:

They NEVER provide even the slightest piece of scientific evidence or empirical data. They constantly link to other conspiracy theorist's youtube videos as irrefutable proof. They accuse everyone else of being a "sheep" who need to "wake up", and they deem anyone who can effectively and articulately argue against their points to be secret government agents or Zionists.

These fools all accept Orwellian-like contradictory claims too.. They think the Illuminati wants to create BOTH a no-holds-barred capitalist state where the poor are life long wageslaves, while also somehow creating a One World Collectivist Government. :\

.. and my personal favorite.. the idea of the government being filled with these cunning masterminds that are sooo smart, so devious, so powerful.. yet they are somehow stupid enough to let their grand conspiracy to leak out to a bunch of anti-science paranoid schizophrenics on infowars.com
 
I work for a DoD research organization. every government engineer I work with is worth every cent of profit sharing they make.
 
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